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2009 Jul 16, 2:03am   8,024 views  15 comments

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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of Australia - Finally someone who doesn't kowtow to the Muslims:

Whole world Needs A Leader Like This!

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of  
Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a  bid to head off potential terror attacks..  
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:  

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation   worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.   Since the terrorist attacks on
Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '  

'This  culture has been developed over two centuries of  struggles,  trials and victories by  millions of men and women who have sought freedom'  

'We speak mainly ENGLISH,  not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,   Japanese, Russian, or any other language.  Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation,  and this is clearly  documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is  part of our  culture.'

'We will  accept your beliefs, and will not question why.  All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and  peaceful enjoyment  with us.'

'This  is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and  we  will allow  you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But  once you are done  complaining, whining,  and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our  Christian  beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I  highly encourage you take advantage of one   other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT  TO LEAVE'.'

'If you   aren't happy here then LEAVE. We  didn't force you to come here. You asked to  be here. So accept  the country YOU accepted.'

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1   Patrick   2009 Jul 16, 2:42am  

There was also some Australian prime minister opposed to Asian immigration who said "Two Wongs don't make a white."

Gotta love how blunt these guys are.

2   NDrLoR   2009 Jul 16, 3:59am  

Gotta love how blunt these guys are.

And they have neat accents in the bargain! I'll bet the Asians never blew anyone to smithereens, either.

3   resistance   2009 Jul 16, 5:16am  

> I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.

but also:

> world would be a better place If “ALL” people respected other cultures when abroad.

Too much respect is worse than too little, IMHO. If we can't argue honestly and bluntly, many problems will just fester. But some respect is necessary simply to show the other side you value them as fellow humans.

For example, look at what an awful person Mohammed was. He robbed, raped, and killed. He was extremely sensitive to criticism and murdered many people who pointed out his flaws, or who simply refused to acknowledge him as a prophet. This is official Islamic history, not slander. To say it out loud offends Muslims, because their families have been his followers for generations, and they see their own salvation as depending on faith, which means complete avoidance of critical thinking about Islam.

Muslims should be respected as humans, but to respect them does not mean you cannot point out their religion has very serious flaws.

4   resistance   2009 Jul 16, 6:16am  

Tenpoundbass says

Having said that, the Malay’s the indigenous people there, do have more legal rights than others, as should be, minority of not, it is “THEIR” country after all.

I don't think any group should have more legal rights than any other. First of all, should the American Indians have more legal rights that white people? It was their country before we all showed up. And conversely, white people should also not have any more legal rights than Indians. They did have such rights, and used them to displace the Indians to begin with. That was unjust.

The message of "all people are equal before the law" seems very good to me.

5   nope   2009 Jul 16, 5:15pm  

Isn't being a criminal also a part of Austrlian culture?

6   mikey   2009 Jul 17, 3:33am  

And I thought Nomo was no mo. So where has he been? Down under whacking through Aussie bush?

7   NDrLoR   2009 Jul 17, 10:01am  

Nomograph says

This is a fake Internet chain email.
It doesn't matter if it is. It doesn't have to be the real thing--it doesn't even matter whether it happened or not--remember Tawana Brawly/Al Sharpton?. In the post-modern world, progressives tell us that all that matters is narrative. The important thing, the narrative, is that Muslims shouldn't bellyache when they live in an alien culture that doesn't observe Sharia law, or even know what it is. If they don't like it, they should leave. Living around Muslims would be like living in a warehouse filled with nitroglycerine--if you don't watch your step, one of them might blow up.

8   NDrLoR   2009 Jul 17, 10:04am  

Kevin says

Isn’t being a criminal also a part of Austrlian culture?

Whatever it is, being Muslim isn't part of Australian culture.

9   Patrick   2009 Jul 17, 12:40pm  

I've got Killelea relatives in Australia, from a long-ago cousin who murdered someone and got shipped over from Ireland. He did well, has lots of descendants, and there is even a Killelea beach named for him, south of Sydney.

Kind of proud that he did OK in spite of a bad beginning. Though no one disputes his crime. He did help murder someone, but not for any religious reason. He was part of a drunk gang of teenagers.

10   mikey   2009 Jul 17, 2:15pm  

Nomograph says

mikey says

And I thought Nomo was no mo. So where has he been? Down under whacking through Aussie bush?

I got tried in a kangaroo court and sent to a penal colony. The judge called me a Tasmanian devil. Mel Gibson has bourne the same burden, but we crossed the barrier into the queen’s land and emerged Victoriaously. While there, I met my wife Margaret down at the river and now we share our common wealth. You sound like that shrimp down at the barber. We asked for a trim but eucalyptus good.

I missed this post earlier. I was outback having a piece of boomerang pie and a reefer. And I hope koala ya will bear with me while I organize my barbies. As they say, no man is an island and I have to Erwin my keep or I won't have any shrimps to cook in my Hogan and I would certainly roo that day. Gotta go now, and I know this sounds off the wallaby, but a dingo stole my baby.

11   resistance   2009 Jul 19, 4:04am  

The "two wongs don't make a white" remark was actually made, but I got it out of context like others did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Calwell#Calwell_and_racism

Nomograph says

If you want to believe every fabricated email that arrives in your inbox, then by all means do so.

That's exactly it. People _want_ to believe certain things, and so critical thought is suspended. Religion works that way too. Just part of human nature, sometimes harmless and sometimes not.

12   mikey   2009 Jul 19, 9:16am  

Sweet and sour comments, Patrick. An interesting slant on this issue. I'm glad you were able to rice to the occasion. I hope it doesn't tickee anybody off. It took some starch to say it. You are one coolie cat. If folks disagree, soy what? It's no occident that people have a chink in their armor. Keep on Taipan on that keyboard and using your noodle to bring us good fortune, cookie.

13   Sean1625   2009 Jul 24, 8:55pm  

humm, I can verify Kevin Rudd is extremely unlikely to say anything like that, especially as there is a huge Muslim population in Australia, particularly in Sydney. The recent attacks occurred in a different country, for starters, a country very close by with a population of 250 million mostly Muslims that Australia doesn't want to offend.

Further, the references to Christianity don't sit well in Australia, it's a fairly secular country. He also wouldn't talk about a right wing push, because he's supposed to be left wing. Of course, the 'speech' is badly written and smug and sounds like nothing ever produced out of Canberra, nobody is that impolitic -- and the standard of reporting journalism and grammar in the papers isn't that bad either. There's nothing about Christianity on the walls of schools in Oz either. Maybe a few icons in the Catholic system. Further, Muslims also believe in God, essentially the same God. The hoax is wrong on so many levels. And unintentionally echoes the 'clash of fundamentalisms'.

Apart from the fact that it's easily found in snopes. There's a guy at work that loves to circulate things like this, and believes all of them, but even he might have struggled with that one.

Shame to hear about your ancestor, Patrick, a lot of the Irish convicts were actually fairly middle class 'political prisoners' of the English occupation of Ireland, and they by and large were treated much worse than the English criminals by the Redcoats. The English convicts in turn were a mix of outright crooks and people simply unable to make ends meet in the population explosion between the Agrarian Revolution and the Industrial Revolution, including some Luddites. A lot of Irish settled in Melbourne, you can see it in the common names down there and in the faces of the Australian Rules football teams ; )

14   elliemae   2009 Jul 25, 1:21am  

I get so many viral urban legends presented as fact from random friends. What bothers me is that, when I send them the link to snopes or truthorfiction.com, they get pissy. They have no problem believing crap when it's in alignment with their narrow views, but when presented with facts they got nowhere to go.

15   elliemae   2009 Jul 26, 3:32am  

TPB say:

Nobody questioned the authenticity of the post, it only gave us pause for thought.

That's the problem. I don't want to dog you on this one, but this puppy bothers me. Some random guy wrote this shit and passed it off as coming from a Leader of State. If it hadn't been attributed to a world leader, no one would have given a shit. It shouldn't give us paws for thought, and the authenticity should have been questioned and the "statement" dismissed.

On the bright side, if Nomo were to "break his arm patting himself on the back," he could probably set it himself or at the very least get a professional courtesy discount. :)

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