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PAUL RONZHEIMER: So if you’re not running, and maybe J.D. Vance is running. But right now, it looks like the MAGA movement is kind of divided in terms of foreign policy, what to do, but also internal stuff. We haven’t talked about Epstein and the Epstein case. Epstein? Why?

TUCKER CARLSON: Because I love the German pronunciation.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: Epstein.

TUCKER CARLSON: Is that how it’s… Yeah. I didn’t know him. Thank heaven.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: So what is going on inside the MAGA movement right now? Oh, boy.

TUCKER CARLSON: I have no idea what we do know is there was this guy who got indicted twice, convicted once of sex crimes, and he was a sex weirdo, lots of those. I worked in television, I know quite a few. So we know that. What we don’t know is what was he doing and how did he get hundreds of millions of dollars? He didn’t apparently execute any trades on Wall Street. He was not a trader, didn’t work on Wall Street. So where’d the money come from? What was the point of this?

He had heads of state and high level political leaders in his house all the time. And there was sex involved. And there are a lot of allegations which may or may not be true. I can’t assess that about what he was doing and why. And we don’t have answers on that. And I think we know enough that people are insistent on getting answers. And then there’s a question of how did he die? It’s pretty clear he did not kill himself.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: Do you think Trump is nervous about it? We can see his tweets and his…

TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t know, I can’t say, but I can say that normal people, non-crazy people have a great desire to know these answers, and I think have an expectation that they do these answers. It’s their right to know their government was involved.

And I also think bigger than that, and this is something that maybe not everyone at the White House understands, though I think they will. It’s a metaphor. It represents something bigger than it is. I personally don’t think the fate of nations rises or falls on the questions of Jeffrey Epstein. I just don’t. Okay. But I do think the fate of nations rises and falls on the question of who’s really in charge, who’s making these decisions and why. That is the fate of nations. That question.

So there is a widespread belief in the United States, and it’s true, it’s rooted in reality, that a lot of this is fake. It’s an illusion. Why can’t we know in our system the people rule? We have a representative democracy in which we elect people to work on our behalf, but it’s our behalf. They’re working on it. They work for us. We own this country. We’re shareholders. We’re not just passing through, we’re not renting it, we own it. That’s the American system.

And so if you can’t get a straight answer from your government about what the government’s doing, and there’s clearly no national security implications… Some pedophile that, well, how is that a national security question? It’s not. Then you start to wonder, what the hell is this? Who’s running it?

And Donald Trump ran for president on the promise that he would tell us and that he would end corruption in Washington. Now that’s a big promise. Every large organization is corrupt by its nature. D.C. is the largest organization, therefore it’s the most corrupt. That’s just a fact. So can one man fix that? No, but you have to make a good faith effort. And so people understood that when Trump got there and they voted for him for this reason, that they would learn what their government was doing. Not just about Epstein and not just about JFK or RFK or MLK or the historic murders that are still unsolved, but about where does all the money go? Why is the Pentagon getting a trillion dollars? Where does the money go? Exactly.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: So Trump supporters disappointed.

TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t know Trump. Look, I think my impression is that I’m trying to be diplomatic here.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: Yeah, I can feel that I’m trying because this is, I mean, well, with Trump, you’re diplomatic. With the other topics, not that much.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah, that’s true, because I know Trump.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: So you would get furious if you’re non-diplomatic.

Trump’s Character and the Epstein Connection
TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t care about that or I wouldn’t be talking to you in the first place. I’m not afraid of anybody and I don’t owe Trump anything, of course. But no, I know him well enough to know that and have known him for so long, and I’ve talked to him so much that I know that he agrees fundamentally with the idea that the system is corrupt and the way that it continues to be corrupt is through secrecy and that you have to air the stuff, you have to tell people what’s going on and take the hit.

And that’s okay. You know, we all screw up. There are things about me I seek to hide. Love pizza or whatever, you know, that’s okay. But you have to be honest at a certain point or it doesn’t get better. That’s just kind of a basic human principle. And I know that Trump agrees with that.

And so if I’m being cagey or I don’t mean to be cagey, I don’t really understand what’s going on, if I’m being honest. I really don’t. And I haven’t talked to him about it. I have called over there and asked what’s going on. I don’t understand this, by the way. I don’t think Trump had anything to do with Epstein. He knew Epstein. But I would be sincerely shocked if Trump… There was some weird sex stuff with Trump. I just don’t believe that. I’ve talked to Trump about it. I know him well.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: What did he say?

TUCKER CARLSON: He said… I think he said this publicly. He said Epstein was always in Mar-a-Lago, freeloading and hitting on massage therapists, and he kicked him out.

PAUL RONZHEIMER: Does this sound realistic, too? It does.

TUCKER CARLSON: Whatever Trump’s sins… I have never gotten a creepy vibe off him at all. And you ask any woman who’s been around him. I was just asking one who’s standing right there and knows him. You’ve got a creepy vibe because women… No, they get the creepy vibe way better than men do, or at least than I do. And I’ve asked women. Do you get creepy vibe off from… You could smell it. If someone’s got weird sex stuff going on underneath the surface, I can smell it instantly. I don’t know what you’re into, but it’s freaky. I know that. Not pointing that at you.

I’ve never gotten that vibe off Trump at all. And everyone I’ve ever asked, didn’t you say you don’t get that at all? Right. So I could be completely wrong, but I would be shocked. And by the way, this information, if it exists, would have been in the hands of the Biden administration during the last presidential campaign. You think they wouldn’t elite Trump? Whatever. Weird stuff. I don’t think… I don’t think that’s it. I really don’t.

Again, could be wrong, but I just don’t believe it. And so what is this? And I don’t really know. I mean, my sense is that you do get in a vacuum when you’re at the top of whatever pyramid. And I don’t think they fully understand how this is being read on the outside. But we’re a few days into this. Get back to me in a month and I’ll have a better sense. We all have a better sense of what this is, but I think it’s a big deal. I guess that’s what I’m saying. Not because of Epstein, but because of what he represents.

I legit just took a nap to it. One of the most uninteresting interviews I've kinda tried watching. It's a sleeper, literally. Nice nap though. A whole lot of nothing when I was awake. Kid free and wife free currently until Sunday. If you're looking to go to bed quickly tonight start watching this video.

@Patrick the geopolitical part about Germany and Merkel's traitorous role in mass immigration was prob more interesting, kinda giving Ronzheimer a run for his money. He also acknowledged that there are little to no consequences from the Iran conflict and that he is happy about it.

mell says

He also acknowledged that there are little to no consequences from the Iran conflict and that he is happy about it.

Israel probably has simply paused temporarily. They are not likely to let Iran continue to pose a threat to their people through rockets, Hamas, Houthis or other Iranian sponsored terrorists. Israel is probably just waiting a bit in hopes of solving the hostage problem in Gaza before focusing again on the head of the snake, Persia and Elam (aka modern day Iran).