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Tulsi Gabbard: Why I am leaving the Democratic Party


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2022 Oct 11, 5:32am   11,666 views  66 comments

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Why I'm leaving the Democratic Party by Tulsi Gabbard, October 11, 2022

I love our country. Our God-given rights of freedom, life, and liberty enshrined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights are my inspiration. I answered the call to duty and took an oath, dedicating my life to supporting and defending those freedoms, both in uniform and in public office.

Growing up in Hawaii gave me a special appreciation of our home, water, and precious natural resources. So when I was 21 years old I decided to run for Hawaii State House so that I could be in a position to protect our environment. I wasn’t politically affiliated before that, but as I was about to file my election papers, I had to choose which party to affiliate with.

As I did my research, I was inspired by Democrats who stood up against the war in Vietnam, and those who fought for Hawaii’s plantation workers who were being abused and exploited by wealthy landowners. I was inspired by leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy and drawn to the ideals of a big-tent Democratic Party that stood up for working men and women — the little guy. In contrast the Republican Party, seemed like one that stood for the interests of big business and warmongering elites. So I became a democrat and remained one for over 20 years — an independent Democrat to be sure, but a Democrat nonetheless.

I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms enshrined in our Constitution, are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, demonize the police and protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.

Here are some of the main reasons I’m leaving the Democratic Party, in brief. I’ll be tackling each of these in more depth in the coming weeks.

The pro-war Democratic Party has led us to the brink of nuclear war. The party is led by warmongers who are firmly in the grips of the military industrial complex, and don’t know or care about the cost of war, or who pays the price. President Biden and Democratic Party elite have pushed us to the precipice of nuclear war, risking starting WWIII and destroying the world as we know it. This is the most urgent existential threat we face. I ran for President in 2020 because I knew that this is where we were headed. All the signs were there. I raised this issue every day during the campaign, and on the national debate stage. But politicians and the media ignored it. They didn’t care then, and they don’t care now. Obviously I didn’t win that election, and don’t have the power to do what is necessary to prevent it. President Biden and Congress do. But they irresponsibly refuse to use that power to protect the safety of our country, the American people, and the world from the devastation of a nuclear holocaust. To protect our loved ones, our children, our world, I’m calling upon the American people to join me in standing up to these cowardly politicians now. This may be our last chance to do so.

Today’s Democratic Party rejects the rule of law. The people’s trust in the rule of law is the foundation for democracy. By weaponizing the security state and Federal law enforcement for their own partisan political ambitions, Democrat leaders are undermining the rule of law and turning our democracy into a banana republic. Across the country, Democrat politicians call for defunding the police, enacting laws that favor criminal’s rights over those of everyday Americans, and so-called progressive DA’s let violent criminals out of jail, refusing to charge them when many have been arrested 30, 40 or even 50 times. It should come as no surprise that crime and murder rates are rapidly increasing, people don’t feel safe walking down the street in their own neighborhoods, and firearm purchases for self defense have drastically increased.

Under the Obama administration, the IRS was used to target conservative groups. Biden's DOJ recently indicted 11 pro-life activists for "organizing an event blockading an abortion clinic." They didn't use physical force. They weren't dangerous. But seven of them are facing 11 years in prison and fines of $250,000. The Biden DOJ and Department of Homeland Security has focused their newly formed Domestic Terror Unit to target parents who are vocally standing in opposition to radical curriculums and explicit sexual content being taught to young children in our public schools – labeling parents as “terrorists” for showing up at school board meetings and demanding change. President Biden campaigned on unity and on healing the partisan divide, but he’s now saying supporters of President Trump are the most extremist group in our country and a threat to our democracy. Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris claim the Supreme Court is illegitimate simply because they disagree with its rulings. The Biden administration stood by and did nothing as activists protested outside the homes of Supreme Court justices during all hours of the day and night, in clear violation of federal law. When the party in power does not believe in the rule of law, yet they are responsible for writing and enforcing laws, our democracy is doomed.

Today’s Democratic Party does not believe in our constitutionally protected right to free speech. Fostering diversity of thought and freedom of expression is the foundation of any flourishing democracy. Democratic Party leaders don’t agree. They are led by fanatical ideologues who pose a threat to our democracy because they don’t believe in freedom - freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion. They try to censor speech they don’t like, labeling it as “misinformation,” “hate speech,” or “violent speech.” They work hand-in-glove with corporate for-profit media and Big Tech to smear and silence political opponents and those who dare to challenge their authority, exposing their insecurities. The Biden Administration even tried launching their own “Ministry of Truth” to control what information we are allowed to read, hear, and say. Their ideology is one of hate, divisiveness, rather than respect and love - aloha, and is diametrically opposed to traditional ‘liberalism’ which recognizes the basic goodness of people and the autonomy of the individual, supporting civil liberties and a government of, by, and for the people. How can a political party that is opposed to freedom be trusted with our democracy? They can’t be.

Today’s Democratic Party does not believe in our constitutionally protected right to freedom of religion. The Constitution recognizes that our freedom comes from God - not governments. Unfortunately, Democratic Party leaders reject this truth and are hostile toward people of faith and spirituality, and actively undermine our religious freedom. During that 2020 Democratic National Convention, they chose to omit the words “under God” from our pledge of allegiance. High profile Democratic leaders mock or openly discriminate against people of faith, especially Christians. President Obama once ridiculed Americans for clinging to their guns and religion. Vice President Kamala Harris, as a senator in 2018 – remarked that being a member of the Catholic charity organization, the Knights of Columbus, disqualified Brian Buescher from serving as a federal judge. Senator Dianne Feinstein derided now Justice Amy Coney Barrett, a devout Catholic, during a Senate confirmation hearing, stating that “the dogma lives loudly within you.” Article 6, Section 3 of the Constitution states “no religious test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” Today’s Democratic party has forgotten that freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion. Government must respect every American’s deeply personal relationship with God, and our freedom to express and practice that faith without fear of state-sponsored reprisal, censorship or discrimination. Whether one believes in God or not is not the point. Any political party that is trying to erase the presence of God from every facet of public life and is hostile toward those who choose to worship God, cannot be trusted to protect our inalienable God-given rights enshrined in the Constitution and should not be in power.

Today’s Democratic Party does not believe in our constitutionally protected right to bear arms. Our founders passed the Second Amendment out of a recognition that every one of us has a right to defend ourselves and our loved ones, and to serve as a check on a tyrannical government seeking to take away our God-given freedoms. The Democrat Party’s hatred of the Second Amendment, and their increasing authoritarian instincts, poses a serious threat to our freedoms. "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47,” Beto O'Rourke said at a debate when he was running for president. Our founders intentionally passed the Second Amendment right after the First Amendment. The majority ruling from the recent Supreme Court ruling striking down New York’s law that barred people from concealed carry firearms summarized very clearly why Democrats are wrong to try to take away our rights: “Just as we do not need to seek a permit to stand on the street corner and exercise our right to free speech, we shouldn’t have to seek permission for a law abiding citizen to carry their firearm. We as a society don’t get to pick and choose which of our rights in the constitution are more worthy of protecting than another.” Protecting our freedom to defend ourselves and those we love, and protecting our rights and freedoms enshrined in the Constitution against a tyrannical power is exactly why we must ensure our right to bear arms “shall not be infringed.”

Today’s Democratic Party is ‘Big Brother’ undermining our civil liberties: The Fourth Amendment of the constitution ensures ‘the right of [the American] people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.’ Democratic elite Party leaders have had many opportunities to get rid of unconstitutional provisions of the Patriot Act that violate our civil liberties - I introduced legislation while in Congress that would repeal the Patriot Act and address the dangerous FISA act being used to undermine our civil liberties, especially those protected by the Fourth Amendment. Every time, they choose the security state over our liberty. Whether it’s using the IRS to snoop into our bank accounts for sending someone over $600 via Venmo, supporting the corrupt system of civil forfeiture to seize property from law-abiding Americans who have not even been charged with a crime, or getting credit card companies to keep track of any and all firearm and ammunition related purchases, today’s Democratic Party stands with giving ‘Big Brother’ more power and control over our lives.

Today’s Democratic Party racializes everything and blatantly foments anti-white racism. The Democratic machine has betrayed Dr. Martin Luther King’s dream of a nation where we are judged based on the content of our character rather than the color of our skin. In their blind pursuit of power, Democrat leaders reduce each of us as God’s children to the color of our skin, using identity politics to tear us apart for their own political gain. Democrats were silent in the face of Chicago’s Mayor Lightfoot’s blatantly racist policy of only accepting interviews with reporters of color because she was struck with the "overwhelming whiteness and maleness." Modern day segregation in schools is promoted by racial profiteers like Robin DiAngelo and the corrupt self-identified cultural Marxists who lead Black Lives Matter. Today’s Democratic party embraces and celebrates their racist agenda. They support programs that teach children that they are either ‘the privileged’ or ‘the victims,’ oppressors or the oppressed, solely because of the color of their skin. They’ve become the racists they claim to hate.

Today’s Democratic Party is anti-woman. There’s no greater expression of hatred and hostility toward women than to erase the existence of women as a category of people. The Democratic Party has long claimed to be champions of women, proud of Title IX and leveling the playing field for women and girls. But now, the Biden Administration and Democratic Party are spitting in the face of these achievements by rejecting the objective truth that women exist and are not just a construct in a person’s mind. They can no longer define what a woman is, demand we replace words like “mother” with “birthing person,” and place women at risk to please biological men who claim to be women at any given moment. They are taking away the opportunities and futures of women in sports by allowing transgender athletes, who until recently identified as men, and who have the biological advantages of men, to compete against women. The Biden administration is quietly trying to change Title IX through a back-door rule change that would remove women and biological sex from the Title IX statute, taking away opportunities for millions of female athletes across the country. They now go so far as to claim it is ‘sexual harassment’ to address someone by the wrong pronouns, trying to force us to comply with this insanity by regulating our speech and thought. By denying that there are biological differences between men and women, they are erasing women and denying the existence of objective truth. If one denies the existence of truth, there are no boundaries in our society and the truth becomes whatever those in power want it to be.

Today’s Democratic Party is undermining families. Families are the bedrock of civilization. Today’s Democratic party does not recognize this truth and the importance of the central foundational role that families play in our society and civilization. They want to strip away the rights of parents to raise their kids, claiming the government knows what’s better for your children than you do. Former Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe said last year that there is no role for parents in determining a school’s curriculum. The largest teacher’s union in the country and one of the Democratic party’s biggest donors, the National Education Association, recently passed a resolution that endorses the teaching of Critical Race Theory in classrooms across the country. Public school districts are implementing policies that sexualize kids as young as five or six years old. Taxpayer dollars are used to bring in drag strippers and encourage gender transition surgery in minors – all kept secret from their parents. HHS secretary Rachel Levine says young children should be empowered to get “gender-affirmation treatment” which involves puberty blockers, chemical castration, and irreversible surgeries causing long-term harm to children. If parents do not comply, the Federal government threatens to take your children away. Families are the foundation of civilization and our society, and today’s Democratic Party’s policies are quickly eroding that foundation to the detriment of us all.

I look forward tackling each of these issues in more depth in the coming weeks.

I believe in a government that is of the people, by the people, and for the people. Unfortunately, today’s Democratic Party does not. Instead, it stands for a government of, by, and for the powerful elite.

Let’s remember the ideals our founders laid out for us. Draw inspiration from their hopes for this country, and take action to actually bring about a government that is truly of, by, and for the people.

So today, I’m calling on my fellow common sense independent minded Democrats to join me in leaving the Democratic Party. If you can no longer stomach the direction that so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, I invite you to join me.

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19   Ceffer   2022 Oct 11, 4:08pm  

This article seems to think the fears of NWO/WEF Trojan Tulsi is too hyped.
https://tomluongo.me/2022/10/11/whos-afraid-of-tulsi-gabbard-everyone/

20   RC2006   2022 Oct 11, 4:58pm  

REpro says

Ceffer says


Good timing before midterms. That is, if we have midterms.

How can we believe the midterm won't be rigged? Devil don't sleep.


She straight up called Hillary a warmonger, that destroyed her career as a Democrat.
21   Undoctored   2022 Oct 11, 5:58pm  

Globalist connections or not, the fact is, Tulsi Gabbard is conspicuously avoiding all criticism of the primarily Democrat-led, Big Pharma-enriching, iron-fisted “coronavirus response.” Anything she mentions that seems to allude to it — censorship, angry parents at school board meetings, religious freedom — may just as well be in relation to the “anti-white racism,” “transgender,” or “targeting conservative Christians” issues that she has no trouble going on and on about.

If your thing is the right to bear arms, maybe Tulsi has something for you. But for me the most important political issue is the freedom to choose or refuse medical treatment. I must say even Donald Trump at his “fighting the China Virus at Warp Speed” worst always explicitly and unambiguously supported medical choice. That Tulsi doesn’t echo that position in an attempt to woo Trump supporters is telling.
22   mell   2022 Oct 11, 6:02pm  

Undoctored says


Globalist connections or not, the fact is, Tulsi Gabbard is conspicuously avoiding all criticism of the primarily Democrat-led, Big Pharma-enriching, iron-fisted “coronavirus response.” Anything she mentions that seems to allude to it — censorship, angry parents at school board meetings, religious freedom — may just as well be in relation to the “anti-white racism,” “transgender,” or “targeting conservative Christians” issues that she has no trouble going on and on about.

If your thing is the right to bear arms, maybe Tulsi has something for you. But for me the most important political issue is the freedom to choose or refuse medical treatment. I must say even Donald Trump at his “fighting the China Virus at Warp Speed” worst always explicitly and unambiguously supported medical choice. That Tulsi doesn’t echo that position in an attempt to woo Trump supporters is telling.

I think Tulsi is pro choice for vaccines as well, which also goes hand in hand with religious freedom. We may hear more from her on her positions soon, but I don't think she's worse than Trump in that regard who pushed the jabs, but at least did not mandate them.
23   richwicks   2022 Oct 11, 6:06pm  

mell says

I don't think she's worse than Trump in that regard who pushed the jabs, but at least dod not mandate them.


I agree with that.

Tulsi is FAAAAAR from perfect, but compared to Hillary Clinton? She's Jesus Christ incarnate.

Nobody is perfect of course, and some people may be SERIOUSLY flawed, but when the competition is ENTIRELY flawed, how can you not see some good in them?
24   BayArea   2022 Oct 11, 6:39pm  

And she’s a great interview

https://youtu.be/rAfwpfUBw1M
25   Undoctored   2022 Oct 11, 6:50pm  

OK counterpoint. Here’s an interview with Megyn Kelly where, when asked, Tulsi says vaccine mandates are wrong. Not bad! Also points for acknowledging that one may have legitimate “personal reasons” for not wanting to get vaccinated not just medical or religious.

https://youtu.be/teaxhSTZsKI

Challenge: find a statement from her outside of this interview opposing vaccine mandates.
28   richwicks   2022 Oct 11, 9:01pm  

Patrick says






Is this sarcasm? I can't identify her in that picture, and that picture looks like it's from 1970 and taken on a Polaroid instant camera.
29   mell   2022 Oct 11, 9:16pm  

Let's set something straight here, antifa has changed over the years at least as much as the aclu or the demonrats have. I always found them a bit kooky, but the antifa from my childhood protested against real racism and for workers rights in the whole world. Nothing is static, everything changes, and one of the biggest developments in the past decades was the clever and evil co-opting of many movements by the globalist marxist elite,antifa is only one of them. They figured out that instead fighting them or trying to win them over they simply corrupt all those institutions from the inside for their agenda and they have been doing a fine job at it, look at Occupy WS, Greenpeace, aclu, tea party, peta, most of our schools and universities etc. etc. Even if this photo is real it means nothing in today's context.
30   mell   2022 Oct 11, 9:41pm  

Antifa used to be an anti-government organization, constantly clashing with govt. And while the govt always had superior firepower they would lose plenty of little skirmishes and more importantly sympathy with the npcs, so they figured out that instead of wasting time, votes and money on fighting orgs like antifa they would infiltrate them and redirect them to do the bidding for the elites, and that is exactly what antifa is doing today, they are an extended arm of the govt, the new brownshirts, cheered on by the npcs.
31   richwicks   2022 Oct 11, 11:46pm  

mell says

They figured out that instead fighting them or trying to win them over they simply corrupt all those institutions from the inside for their agenda and they have been doing a fine job at it, look at Occupy WS, Greenpeace, aclu, tea party, peta


Every group is infiltrated but PETA was never serious about their supposed mission, ever. I did dog fostering and rescue for Samoyeds. You know how many shelters PETA has and how many rehabilitation centers they have? 0. They advertise about stopping what they claim is a great evil, but they do nothing to stop it. Nothing at all.
32   gabbar   2022 Oct 12, 7:41am  

So Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect. Can you name a politician who is perfect? How about Trump, aint he perfect?
34   WookieMan   2022 Oct 12, 9:16am  

Tulsi is playing a game. I wouldn't trust her. It's human nature to be accepted. It's not about perfection. It's 100% about acceptance and what you'll do to achieve it. I don't like her. She's an actress trying to gain clout in the boys club. A certain segment of women do this all the time. #manipulation Men fall for it because of tits and ass.
35   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 12, 5:29pm  

gabbar says

So Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect. Can you name a politician who is perfect?


PUTIN OF COURSE!!!
36   richwicks   2022 Oct 12, 5:31pm  

RWSGFY says


gabbar says


So Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect. Can you name a politician who is perfect?


PUTIN OF COURSE!!!



You can only "think" in the most basic sense of the world.

Even when it's repeatedly pointed out to you that you're making a logical fallacy, in this case a strawman argument, you don't correct it, acknowledge it, or improve upon your thinking. This leaves you in a rut of self imposed stupidity and misunderstanding.
37   Misc   2022 Oct 12, 7:18pm  

The remark was designed as humor.

I for one found it funny.
38   Undoctored   2022 Oct 12, 7:20pm  

OK so now we know what we all think about Tulsi. Enough said about that I think. So now why do you think she made this statement and left the Democratic Party now?

Was it just so she could endorse Republican candidates without violating her Party oath?

https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/tulsi-gabbard-to-stump-for-republican-don-bolduc-in-new-hampshire/

What’s next?
39   richwicks   2022 Oct 12, 7:38pm  

Undoctored says

OK so now we know what we all think about Tulsi. Enough said about that I think. So now why do you think she made this statement and left the Democratic Party now?

Was it just so she could endorse Republican candidates without violating her Party oath?


I think it's more likely that she's positioning herself to take over the Democratic Party or force reformation. She's really got no future in the current version of the DNC.

As it stands, the DNC is completely worthless as a counterbalance to the Neocons, and the Neocons are what caused the reformation of the Republican party. If George W. Bush didn't just outright lie, and blatantly lie, the nation into the Iraq War - if instead he created a plausible and believable reason for that war, there would have been no Trump, and likely no Obama.

It would have been more intelligent for the United States to setup false flags in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and perhaps Turkey to start that war, and blame it on terrorism supported by Hussein. Instead they said Hussein was working with binLaden and made up the whole fiction of mobile weapons labs, and anthrax. It's really perplexing how stupid the propaganda is but then again, it doesn't have to be very believable. They think the population overall is naive and gullible, if not outright stupid, and perhaps they are right.
40   Onvacation   2022 Oct 12, 8:12pm  

WookieMan says

Men fall for it because of tits and ass.

Works for me.
41   FarmersWon   2022 Oct 12, 8:29pm  

Tulsi Gabbar supports Hindoooo Nazis.
Worthless cruel opportunist.
42   richwicks   2022 Oct 12, 8:59pm  

FarmersWon says

Tulsi Gabbar supports Hindoooo Nazis.
Worthless cruel opportunist.


Who cares? As long as she doesn't drag us into a war with India and Pakistan, or start sending "aid" to India, what does it matter?
43   Patrick   2022 Oct 12, 10:17pm  

RWSGFY says


gabbar says


So Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect. Can you name a politician who is perfect?


PUTIN OF COURSE!!!



Pretty close to textbook definition of strawman argument:


The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.[2][3] Straw man arguments have been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly regarding highly charged emotional subjects.[4] ...

This reasoning is a fallacy of relevance: it fails to address the proposition in question by misrepresenting the opposing position.


Set up something that was never asserted, just to have something to knock down easily.
44   Misc   2022 Oct 12, 10:50pm  

I still found it funny.
45   clambo   2022 Oct 13, 4:39am  

I wonder about Tulsi: didn't she have a clear idea what the Democrat party values and political positions were previously?

It reminds me of Pete Davidson; didn't he know Kim's color preference before he decided to "date" her?
46   gabbar   2022 Oct 13, 9:31am  

richwicks says


PUTIN OF COURSE!!!

No, we are talking about American politics and politician. You went off at a tangent. I quoted Trump because apparently it is believed by some people that his crap doesn't stink.
47   NuttBoxer   2022 Oct 14, 8:15pm  

gabbar says

Can you name a politician who is perfect?


Ron Paul
48   NuttBoxer   2022 Oct 14, 8:27pm  

cisTits says

Bullshit. He could have filibustered the last few rounds of Ukrainian funding after they refused to have that funding audited. He didn't.


Are you thinking of his son Rand? Ron Paul has been retired for some years now.

On Rand I would agree.
49   FarmersWon   2022 Oct 14, 8:36pm  

She supports Hindooo Nazi. Complete sellout useless lady.
50   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Oct 14, 9:47pm  

clambo says

I wonder about Tulsi: didn't she have a clear idea what the Democrat party values and political positions were previously?

It reminds me of Pete Davidson; didn't he know Kim's color preference before he decided to "date" her?


51   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2022 Oct 14, 9:52pm  

Tulsi needs to run against flatulence filled Maxine Waters. That corrupt decrepit bitch needs to go and an independent feminist Asian might possibly be able to win in this district. She’d get all the Republican vote which is around 25% of the voters, and a decent mix of independent/Asian/Polynesian(there’s actually a decent amount in Gardena and Carson)/and hopefully a few Hispanics as well.

Tulsi, move here! I’d be happy to show you around!
52   gabbar   2022 Oct 15, 4:56am  

NuttBoxer says

gabbar says


Can you name a politician who is perfect?


Ron Paul

I AGREE.
53   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2022 Oct 15, 8:20am  

Now She's the only Democrat that could write a best seller book.
54   Undoctored   2022 Oct 15, 9:12am  

clambo says

I wonder about Tulsi: didn't she have a clear idea what the Democrat party’s values and political positions were previously?


How long has the Democratic Patty been so blatantly pro-censorship and anti-woman?

Other than these two issues her political views on the whole align with the Dems.

I already mentioned her lack of opposition to the “coronavirus response.”

She seems to care a lot about the military and foreign policy, which most voters can’t relate too much except on the issues of “military budget” and “support our troops / bring back our boys.”

Here are her positions on other issues as of 2020:

https://2020election.procon.org/view.source.election.php?sourceID=015131

Highlights:

Pro background check for gun ownership.

Pro cutting the military budget

Pro “carbon neutrality” to handle the “climate crisis,” pro Paris Climate Agreement.

Pro “Medicare for all”

Pro DACA

Anti fracking

Anti nuclear power

Anti voter ID

Pro free college

Pro Universal Basic Income

Pro codifying Roe v Wade at the federal level
55   mell   2022 Oct 15, 9:24am  

clambo says

I wonder about Tulsi: didn't she have a clear idea what the Democrat party values and political positions were previously?

It reminds me of Pete Davidson; didn't he know Kim's color preference before he decided to "date" her?

The demonrats changed rapidly in the past 20 years, Bill Clinton was the last somewhat moderate dem. Today's dem and last millenia dem are entirely different parties.
57   richwicks   2023 Jun 12, 12:47pm  

clambo says

I wonder about Tulsi: didn't she have a clear idea what the Democrat party values and political positions were previously?


The STATED positions of the Democratic party WERE pretty decent. They used to be officially against war, of course, they never were.
58   richwicks   2023 Jun 12, 12:53pm  

mell says

The demonrats changed rapidly in the past 20 years, Bill Clinton was the last somewhat moderate dem. Today's dem and last millenia dem are entirely different parties.


It was Bill Clinton that completely changed the party.

The last decent Democratic president we had was, believe it or not, Jimmy Carter. I know his presidency was a disaster, but he's the one that put in Volker and his policies ended the inflation, Reagan just got to benefit from that. He didn't start a new war. Operation Eagle Claw was a disaster (the failed attempt to rescue the "hostages" - i.e. spies). A lot of crap happened on Carter's watch, but he wasn't a piece of garbage like Clinton was, or Obama.

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