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Patrick says

If Massie gets replaced, it would be absolute proof that the US must entirely sever all relations with Israel.

Kentuckians in CD4 can't prefer MAGA over Libertarians in Republican Garb?

Vassal States/Marches don't send presents back to the elites of the Master Country for continued support?

Patrick says

I'm really nauseated by Israel's control over America.

You are not the only one to notice. Unfortunately, the rebellion against undo control of America by Israel may lead to more Mamdani types being elected.

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Kentuckians in CD4 can't prefer MAGA over Libertarians in Republican Garb?

We shall see whether Miriam Adelson's money can overrule Massie's honesty.

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Vassal States/Marches don't send presents back to the elites of the Master Country for continued support?

Not sure which part is Israel and which part is America there, and that's symptomatic of the problem.

HeadSet says

Unfortunately, the rebellion against undo control of America by Israel may lead to more Mamdani types being elected.

I hope not. I want more Massie types instead.

https://x.com/Nicksdankmemes3/status/2030604616316940574

I'm just disillusioned with Libertarians in general. Initially I liked their philosophy but over time I've realized they mostly act like spoiled brat kids. The kind that takes their ball home so nobody can play.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

I'm just disillusioned with Libertarians in general. Initially I liked their philosophy but over time I've realized they mostly act like spoiled brat kids. The kind that takes their ball home so nobody can play.

It’s the i do as I please philosophy.

https://x.com/LouisaClary/status/2024694683872416072

Mike Benz on the Epstein bill: "Nobody wanted to be the one to sponsor this bill."

"Nobody wanted to be the Thomas Massie who has their whole career thrown up in the air —getting primaried, hit pieces, and disavowed... and then MTG feeling like she had to drop out of Congress altogether over this."

"...So the mere act of sponsoring the bill put the establishment in a bind. Nobody wanted to be the one to go against it once it was sponsored."

"Everybody feared the base. That once they voted against it, they'd be voted out..."

"427-1 it passed in the House. 99-0 in the Senate."

🔥"This is one of those moments —you could use that same strategy, in theory, not just with the CIA and State Department files on Epstein... [but also] who's gonna vote against declassification of CIA files for Covid-19?"

"Do it fast and furious. I'm inspired by what Thomas Massie has done." 🇺🇸 —Mike Benz on Kibbe On Liberty

Full interview below.

Mark your calendars for March 11th, when Trump appears at an Ed Gallrein Rally.

The older GOP voters that still watch TV news are gonna learn that Massie isn't "Backing the President's Priorities" like he bullshits at various Local Appearances (he said this last year at a Harvest Fair).

The LURCs (LOLberts Under Republican Clothing) are goin' down.

I encourage donations to Massie:

https://www.thomasmassie.com/

https://x.com/ThePatriotOasis/status/2031847425607156094

Stick a fork in his ass and flip him over.

Disseminates? Ironically correct. All of Trump's unjustified attacks on Massie just make Massie better known among voters.

Every complaint about Massie is 100% bullshit which is easily refused with just a tiny bit of research. This makes Trump look AWFUL. Even Democrats could not shoot down Trump better than he's shooting down himself with easily refuted fabrications about Massie.

The right response is for Trump to actually follow through on his own campaign promises.

Massie is a far better Trump than Trump himself is.

Patrick says

The right response is for Trump to actually follow through on his own campaign promises.

Trump does. The border is shut tight and we have the first year of negative migration in over 3 decades.

Massie doesn't, and Massie has been in the house since 2011, many years longer than Trump.

His fascination with Epstein began in early 2024 during the primaries. He named 4 innocent men on the floor of Congress but is too much of an arrogant know it all Libertopian to apologize.

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Trump does. The border is shut tight and we have the first year of negative migration in over 3 decades.

Yes, good about the border, but Trump also campaigned on no new wars, and has said many times that it's a huge mistake for the US to get involved in wars over there.

Patrick says

Yes, good about the border, but Trump also campaigned on no new wars, and has said many times that it's a huge mistake for the US to get involved in wars over there.

He also said no nukes for Iran, ~30 times on the trail. Here is one of them.

"Smithereens"


https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/74-times-president-trump-has-made-clear-that-iran-cannot-have-a-nuclear-weapon/

Iran can't have a nuke.

Why is Massie's Social Media team mysteriously blacking out stuff?

I thought Massie was Mr. Transparency?


https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/2031427758606159948

To hide It's a bus for MAGA by Andy Barr, the Senate Candidate that ALL Kentucky can vote for and will be part of the Rally:

Translation: Massibators from NY, PA, CA, and Pakistan went in and added bets to plump Massie.

I think it's that the public realizes that Massie is being attacked for not playing along with Israel First.

Pro-Mass Migration CATO Massie doesn't want his busy social media account focusing on Terror Immigrants.

That's $7000 per Masrouq Clan Member strange.

Fishbeck's attempt to hide assets from Greenlight, his former employer (he was fired for not performing; he was days late on a deadline and no evidence he spent more than a few hours on a project) is next on the list. Rolex, Tesla Model A, etc.

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Pro-Mass Migration CATO Massie doesn't want his busy social media account focusing on Terror Immigrants.

All the hate for Massie is because he rightly refuses to place Israel's interests above America's interests.

Congressmen should represent America alone and never any foreign country. At all.

Patrick says

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Pro-Mass Migration CATO Massie doesn't want his busy social media account focusing on Terror Immigrants.

Massie is an open borders, anti-tariff fanatic which is reason enough to oppose him.

Patrick says

All the hate for Massie is because he rightly refuses to place Israel's interests above America's interests.

True, Massie is against the Iran war. But you need to balance that against his strong beliefs in free flow of capital and labor across borders. If Massie become President, he will open the borders and cancel tariffs, which will result in a mass inflow of cheap labor and a resurgence in offshoring US industry.

Thanks @HeadSet

Seems true on tariffs, but false on the border:

Massie has taken a hardline stance on border security and enforcement, often aligning with conservative Republican priorities:He voted "Yes" on the Secure the Border Act of 2023 (H.R. 2), which aimed to expand border walls, increase agents, restrict asylum claims, and mandate E-Verify for employers.

He has criticized Biden-era policies and signed an amicus brief supporting Trump's executive order to limit birthright citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants, arguing it incentivizes illegal entry.

Massie has voted in favor of deporting immigrants who commit serious crimes and increasing restrictions on current border policies.

In interviews and statements, he has emphasized securing borders as a key issue, calling it a "referendum of the people" in elections.

He has opposed some GOP immigration bills (e.g., H.R. 2 in a later vote) specifically over provisions like mandatory E-Verify, which he sees as burdensome government paperwork, but this doesn't indicate support for open borders—rather, a libertarian critique of overregulation.

Critics (often Trump supporters) label him "pro-open borders" due to his libertarian leanings and occasional votes against certain bills, but his record shows consistent support for enforcement and opposition to lax policies.

Position on TariffsMassie is strongly against tariffs, aligning with his free-market libertarian ideology:He has repeatedly criticized Trump's tariffs as unconstitutional, arguing that taxing authority belongs to Congress, not the president (e.g., "The president should not have unilateral authority to levy taxes").

He voted against measures to block challenges to Trump's tariffs and supported the Supreme Court's 2026 ruling striking them down, praising justices for choosing "the Constitution over politics."

Massie argues tariffs raise prices for consumers and represent government overreach, contrasting with Trump's protectionist approach.

He has noted that for much of U.S. history, tariffs funded the government without income taxes, but he opposes their modern unilateral use by the executive.

In summary, Massie's positions reflect his libertarian principles: pro-border security (against open borders) but anti-tariff (favoring free trade).

Patrick says

He has opposed some GOP immigration bills (e.g., H.R. 2 in a later vote) specifically over provisions like mandatory E-Verify, which he sees as burdensome government paperwork, but this doesn't indicate support for open borders—rather, a libertarian critique of overregulation.

Weasel words. Claim to be against cheap illegal labor but stop the most effective countermeasure. Just like one should produce an ID to vote, one should prove to be legally in the US to get a job or collect benefits. Neither are "burdensome paperwork."

Patrick says

Yeah, what is the point? Traditional Republicans are for open borders and no tariffs. Trump is more like old time Dems, who see the need to protect US industry and labor with tariffs and stopping illegal immigration. The Dems selling out to big business donors is why Tulsi and others are now in Trump's camp.

HeadSet says

"Traditional Republicans are for open borders and no tariffs."

Says who? The Easter Bunny?

Another thing Massie isn't arsed about: Somalian Fraud, or really any immigrant fraud that I can remember


But today he's very arsed about Carie Prejean Bunny-Boiler getting kicked off a commission as a months-old Catholic convert. The other two Catholic actual Scholars on the Commish are just fine, though.

The_Deplorable says

HeadSet says

"Traditional Republicans are for open borders and no tariffs."

Says who? The Easter Bunny?

No Easter Bunny, just traditional Republicans like Reagan and Bush. Reagan opposed erecting a border wall and supported amnesty over deportation. Reagan also strongly supported bipartisan immigration reform. In 1986, Congress passed an immigration act that increased border security funding, but also ensured 2.7 million undocumented immigrants, primarily of Latino background, were able to gain legal status. George W. Bush and Republican Senator John McCain lobbied for a bipartisan bill that would have tightened border enforcement while simultaneously “legalizing” an estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants.

Regan and Bush also abandoned protectionist policies and came out against quotas and in favor of the GATT/WTO policy of minimal economic barriers to global trade. Free trade with Canada came about as a result of the Canada–U.S. Free Trade Agreement of 1987. NAFTA came soon after with heavy Republican support, even though under Clinton. The Democrats had long championed workers’ rights (Ceaser Chavez style), and the Republicans had become a free-trade party; that kind of broke down around with Clinton, as the Dems shifted to the right after strong election defeats in 1980, 1984, and 1988.

Traditional Republicans believed in big business and free trade, so they were against tariffs and had no problem with those masses coming to America to work. Dems used to favor the unions and workers, but have sold out to big business donors like Apple and Tyson.

Yep, A big, if not the biggest, part of MAGA is reversing the America Last, Free Trade No Matter How Bad and/or Non-reciprocal ideal the GOP had.

HeadSet says

"Reagan... supported amnesty over deportation."

No. That was only for long-term undocumented immigrants already living in the U.S.

The_Deplorable says

That was only for long-term undocumented immigrants already living in the U.S.

Which is the same as "Keep coming amigos, stay hidden for a while and you too get amnesty!"

HeadSet says

"Which is the same as "Keep coming amigos, stay hidden for a while and you too get amnesty!"

No it is not.

According to Reagan "amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally" is "generous to the alien and fair."

Your version is a "lie of omission."

The_Deplorable says

Your version is a "lie of omission."

Disagree. Any amnesty, no matter how flowerily spoken, will encourage other illegals to sneak in as they just need to "put down roots" to get that amnesty. That 1986 law granted amnesty to 3 million who arrived before 1982. 4 years is all that was needed to "put down roots." Reagen believed America should be a "welcoming country" and wanted amnesty and a non-fortified border. That law also stripped out policies that would penalize employers who hired illegals.

HeadSet says

"Reagen believed America should be a "welcoming country" and wanted amnesty and a non-fortified border."

No he didn't.

The_Deplorable says

HeadSet says

"Reagen believed America should be a "welcoming country" and wanted amnesty and a non-fortified border."

No he didn't.

Reagan quote on amnesty:
“The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans.”

Reagan quote on even a border fence:
“Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back, and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems.”

Like Republicans of the time, they liked mass importation of cheap labor. Remember, the 1986 amnesty bill also removed provisions to punish employers for hiring illegals.