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3   HeadSet   2022 Jun 12, 6:48pm  

Wonder if the Mongols will chime in.
4   stereotomy   2022 Jun 12, 6:57pm  

Let Europe eat/kill itself. They've been itching for it all along.

Stand back, pull up a chair and eat some hot-buttered popcorn.
5   RWSGFY   2022 Jun 12, 8:12pm  

stereotomy says


Let Europe eat/kill itself. They've been itching for it all along.

Stand back, pull up a chair and eat some hot-buttered popcorn.


... and then watch CCP waltz in and take it all.... including industrial and military tech
and all manufacturing. Because having the new Iron Curtain fall along Atlantic coast is much better starting position then to have it where it is falling now.

BUT IT SAVES US $40B SO IT'S A-OK!!! $120 PER US PERSON IS NOTHING TO SNEEZE AT!!
6   Bd6r   2022 Jun 12, 8:39pm  

RWSGFY says


and then watch CCP waltz in and take it all.... including industrial and military tech
and all manufacturing.

Ukraine situation is win- win for CCP
Ukraine/West loses, take over Taiwan
Russia loses, take over Russian Far East

Or as they say, wsit until corpse of your enemy floats down the river past you
7   richwicks   2022 Jun 12, 9:07pm  

stereotomy says

Let Europe eat/kill itself. They've been itching for it all along.



The maniacs that have seized control of the United States are doing this. They are fucking masters of chaos. We should first depose them, then execute them.
8   richwicks   2022 Jun 12, 9:09pm  

Bd6r says

Russia loses, take over Russian Far East


China will not do this. They could have done this when the Soviet Union collapsed, and didn't. Instead, they helped prop Russia up. China wishes to remain China, they have no interest in expansion, the same is true of Russia.

China erected a wall centuries ago to keep foreign influence out. They've not changed.
9   Bd6r   2022 Jun 13, 11:37am  

richwicks says

China will not do this. They could have done this when the Soviet Union collapsed, and didn't. Instead, they helped prop Russia up. China wishes to remain China, they have no interest in expansion, the same is true of Russia.

China erected a wall centuries ago to keep foreign influence out. They've not changed.

Chairman Mao said something like "we need to swallow territory of other states slowly and in small pieces so that we would not choke on it". They are already doing it.

https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/cebn/eng/zgxw/t476573.htm

Russia will soon return 174 sq km of territory on the northeast border to China, ending more than 40 years of negotiations.
The two countries will sign an agreement to this effect during Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov's two-day visit to Beijing that starts today.
According to the agreement to be signed, Russia will return Yinlong Island (Tarabarov Island) and half of Heixiazi Island (Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island).

https://english.pravda.ru/world/121658-china_territorial_claims/

Any territorial dispute, but rather, its resolution, is a serious precedent. If China's claim in respect of at least one territory from the list of the "lost" is satisfied, the Chinese machine would be unstoppable. Despite the fact that the Chinese are very pleased to partner with Russia and have always supported Russia in the UN Security Council, in person, on the sidelines, its diplomats supposedly jokingly hint to their Russian colleagues: you must understand that soon you will have to share the Far East? China has more than a billion people, while Russia's vast territory barely has 150 million.

These dangerous trends - demographic, and as a result, geopolitical - must sound scary to the Russian government, but so far it seems that it is happy with the fact that Beijing makes territorial claims only to Seoul and Tokyo. In 2005 Russia had already given China a bounty in the form of 337 square kilometers of land in the area of Big Island (upper Argun River in the Chita region) and two sites in the vicinity of the islands Tarabarov and Big Ussuri near the confluence of the Amur and Ussuri.

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