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2022 Apr 14, 4:28am   322,542 views  2,005 comments

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1966   Patrick   @   2026 Jan 6, 1:59am  

Elon may be the only billionaire who actually deserves every penny of it.
1968   gabbar   @   2026 Jan 13, 1:29pm  

“Something that people should be concerned about is that there's an increasing movement to place activists as judges. If you look at who the Biden administration confirmed as federal judges and who have been confirmed at the state level in far-left states, increasingly, they don't care about following the law; they care about social justice, not justice justice, what they call social justice. Activists as judges. Now you've got a real problem. If that continues, we will not have a real justice system.” - Elon Musk, Interview with Tucker Carlson, October 7, 2024
1969   gabbar   @   2026 Jan 27, 3:54pm  



1970   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2026 Jan 27, 6:38pm  

Patrick says

https://nypost.com/2026/01/01/us-news/musk-signals-hell-back-republicans-in-2026-months-after-feud-with-trump-and-pledging-to-start-new-political-party/



Billionaire Elon Musk signaled Thursday that he’ll fund Republican candidates ahead of the 2026 midterm elections, arguing the country is doomed if Democrats take control of Congress.

“America is toast if the radical left wins,” Musk wrote on X. “They will open the floodgates to illegal immigration and fraud.

“Won’t be America anymore.”



He is aiming for favor trading. Third party is nuclear option, because if it controls swing states it’s the only one that matters.
1971   Patrick   @   2026 Jan 31, 10:04am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/awkwardness-saturday-january-31-2026


This morning’s entry comes courtesy of PC Magazine, which yesterday reported, “SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites For Orbital Data Center Push.” That’s not a typo: the space giant seeks official permission to launch one million satellites. ...

SpaceX currently has more satellites than any other company or government, totaling around 9,600. It would even be remarkable if they doubled it.

But a million of them? For what?

The filing explained that the proposed massive satellite array is intended to support artificial intelligence. Here is the formal description from the application:

SpaceX is designing its satellite system to accommodate the explosive growth of data demands driven by AI, machine learning, and edge computing, where processing needs are already beginning to outpace terrestrial capabilities. To deliver the compute capacity required for large-scale AI inference and data center applications serving billions of users globally, SpaceX aims to deploy a system of up to one million satellites to operate within narrow orbital shells spanning up to 50 km each (leaving sufficient room to deconflict against other systems with comparable ambitions). This system will operate between 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30 degrees and sun-synchronous orbit inclinations. SpaceX plans to design and operate different versions of satellite hardware to optimize operations across orbital shells.


This is strange. They are going to be compute devices in the sky?

I can see that there is a lot of solar power up there, but CPUs still rapidly get obsolete, so it seems kinda crazy to spend so much to launch them.
1972   Patrick   @   2026 Jan 31, 10:07am  

Jeff Childers points out that China has an undersea data center:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/suwannagauntlett/2025/10/20/china-has-an-underwater-data-center-the-us-will-build-them-in-space/


China’s Highlander has launched an underwater data center in Hainan, the first project like it to be deployed at commercial scale. The energy demands of Ai data centers come largely from the cooling requirements of the servers, and China has answered this question by placing their Ai data centers underwater. This is something that’s been successfully experimented with by Microsoft among others but hasn’t been deployed commercially before now. The benefits of submerged data centers include a reduction of 90% in cooling costs as the ocean’s currents do what fresh water would otherwise; this translates into 40% more compute than a comparable land-based system. When coupled with renewable energy the costs drop further as this project is largely powered by an adjacent offshore windfarm; the company says that it’s 95% powered with renewable energy.


Ah, SpaceX is counting on space to dissipate the heat.
1973   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Jan 31, 10:24am  

Patrick says

Ah, SpaceX is counting on space to dissipate the heat.


I've wondered why nobody (apparently) has considered Alaska. Electrons travel easily.
1974   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2026 Jan 31, 10:27am  

SpaceX is putting out missiles on the moon and into space, it’s not for peaceful purposes.
1975   RWSGFY   @   2026 Jan 31, 11:08am  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

SpaceX is putting out missiles on the moon and into space, it’s not for peaceful purposes.


The idea of military use of the Moon has been considered 50-60 years ago and was laughed out of the room.
1976   stereotomy   @   2026 Jan 31, 11:19am  

Dissipatiing heat in space (radiation) is much less efficient than convective cooling (using a fluid to carry heat away). Why do you think the ISS has those gargantuan heat radiators? If they could take advantage of convection, they would only need a 30 ton HVAC.
1977   HeadSet   @   2026 Feb 1, 7:46pm  

Patrick says

Ah, SpaceX is counting on space to dissipate the heat.

Not a good idea. Space is a vacuum, which is the perfect insulator. The only way to lose heat in space is to radiate it off.
Why not Install the devices in Antarctica? Maybe this is another reason Trump wants Greenland.
1978   Patrick   @   2026 Feb 1, 10:59pm  

True:


Dissipating heat in space is extremely difficult because the only mechanism available is thermal radiation, as convection and conduction require a medium like air or fluid, which does not exist in the vacuum of space.

Radiation is the sole method: Heat must be radiated away from a spacecraft as electromagnetic waves, governed by the Stefan-Boltzmann Law, which states that the power radiated is proportional to the fourth power of the absolute temperature and the surface area of the radiator.

Large surface areas are needed: To reject heat efficiently, especially at lower temperatures (e.g., around 300 K), spacecraft require large radiator surfaces—sometimes hundreds of square meters—leading to significant mass and volume challenges.
1979   zzyzzx   @   2026 Feb 13, 10:05am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-announces-plans-macrohard-235500199.html

Elon Musk announces plans for 'Macrohard' company to rival software giant Microsoft
1980   floki   @   2026 Feb 13, 1:14pm  

Would real people who help build it get golden packages for when the AI ceo fires them all ?


1981   gabbar   @   2026 Feb 17, 9:11am  



1982   MolotovCocktail   @   2026 Feb 21, 6:18am  

I can just see Musk's legal team wince whenever he says stuff like this w/o stating ppl should not take it as financial advice.



https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2025124840806514916
1984   Patrick   @   2026 Feb 22, 2:13pm  

Elon never explains why the owners of AI would share any wealth at all with anyone else.

They won't.
1985   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Feb 22, 6:59pm  

It'll have to be taken from them. Not sure how I feel about that being quite the capitalist pig myself but I think you're right.
1986   HeadSet   @   2026 Feb 22, 7:34pm  

Patrick says


Elon never explains why the owners of AI would share any wealth at all with anyone else.

They won't.

They will, because there would be more wealth to go around. Compare the life of 2026 with the life of 1926. With all the tech improvements in the last 100 years, notice that it is not just the rich that have cel phones, TVs, jet travel, computers, and medicine. AI will be the same - even now the average Joe can make realistic looking videos and use other AI features like research and composition.
1987   floki   @   2026 Feb 23, 9:32am  

HeadSet says

Patrick says



Elon never explains why the owners of AI would share any wealth at all with anyone else.

They won't.

They will, because there would be more wealth to go around. Compare the life of 2026 with the life of 1926. With all the tech improvements in the last 100 years, notice that it is not just the rich that have cel phones, TVs, jet travel, computers, and medicine. AI will be the same - even now the average Joe can make realistic looking videos and use other AI features like research and composition.


Well the difference is we pay for these now. In the AI utopia, we won't be working.
1988   Patrick   @   2026 Feb 23, 8:53pm  

HeadSet says

With all the tech improvements in the last 100 years, notice that it is not just the rich that have cel phones, TVs, jet travel, computers, and medicine. AI will be the same - even now the average Joe can make realistic looking videos and use other AI features like research and composition.


Those tech improvement were shared with the general public only because it was so profitable to do that.

And even with "free" AI right now, they must be getting something back, like information you give up about yourself via your searches and conversations.
1989   ForcedTQ   @   2026 Feb 23, 9:43pm  

Which is why it makes sense to do garbage data / question queries and searches to screw with their databases….
1990   stereotomy   @   2026 Feb 24, 7:04am  

Patrick says

Those tech improvement were shared with the general public only because it was so profitable to do that.

Another example - DVDs and Blu-rays were cheap because it was a new revenue model for the studios. The problem was piracy. Now there's streaming, so physical media is dying or becoming a high-priced niche like Laserdisc was.
1991   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2026 Feb 24, 7:34am  

Most of Elons money is our tax dollars. SpaceX is all government, satellite internet is mainly government. Cars, those were getting government subsidies for years. When Trump was beefing with Elon, even Trump said that all his businesses are government subsidized. He's a smart man, but most of his wealth does come from finding ways to get government to pay him.
1992   floki   @   2026 Feb 24, 8:01am  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Most of Elons money is our tax dollars. SpaceX is all government, satellite internet is mainly government. Cars, those were getting government subsidies for years. When Trump was beefing with Elon, even Trump said that all his businesses are government subsidized. He's a smart man, but most of his wealth does come from finding ways to get government to pay him.


While all that is true, IMO the gov would have spent at least 2X in costs and time for less results without Musk (or with someone else). Whatever amounts he got for his base, the rest of his gains came from the market. I don't really have issue with any of that.
1993   Patrick   @   2026 Feb 24, 9:06am  

Elon does seem to be pretty efficient.
1994   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2026 Feb 24, 12:02pm  

floki says

FortWayneHatesRealtors says



Most of Elons money is our tax dollars. SpaceX is all government, satellite internet is mainly government. Cars, those were getting government subsidies for years. When Trump was beefing with Elon, even Trump said that all his businesses are government subsidized. He's a smart man, but most of his wealth does come from finding ways to get government to pay him.


While all that is true, IMO the gov would have spent at least 2X in costs and time for less results without Musk (or with someone else). Whatever amounts he got for his base, the rest of his gains came from the market. I don't really have issue with any of that.


When Democrats take over, he will be either sucking up to them or lose it all to blue origins.
1995   socal2   @   2026 Feb 24, 1:58pm  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Most of Elons money is our tax dollars. SpaceX is all government, satellite internet is mainly government. Cars, those were getting government subsidies for years. When Trump was beefing with Elon, even Trump said that all his businesses are government subsidized. He's a smart man, but most of his wealth does come from finding ways to get government to pay him.


SpaceX alone has saved the US taxpayer over $40 BILLION. Before SpaceX, we were still paying the Russians $90 million per seat to send astronauts to space on Russian rockets.

Starlink services are also cancelling hundreds of millions that were earmarked to run fiber optic cable to rural areas in the US saving us more money.

This is such a tired and dumb talking point to still claim that Elon's companies are somehow grifting on the US taxpayer.
1996   FortWayneHatesRealtors   @   2026 Feb 24, 8:21pm  

socal2 says


FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Most of Elons money is our tax dollars. SpaceX is all government, satellite internet is mainly government. Cars, those were getting government subsidies for years. When Trump was beefing with Elon, even Trump said that all his businesses are government subsidized. He's a smart man, but most of his wealth does come from finding ways to get government to pay him.


SpaceX alone has saved the US taxpayer over $40 BILLION. Before SpaceX, we were still paying the Russians $90 million per seat to send astronauts to space on Russian rockets.

Starlink services are also cancelling hundreds of millions that were earmarked to run fiber optic cable to rural areas in the US saving us more money.

This is such a tired and dumb talking point to still claim that Elon's companies are somehow grifting on the US taxpayer.



It didn't save us anything. It's inflated government spend, it was inflated before, it's inflated now. This is such a modern America version of "Saved". Accounting gimmicks and tricks, woohoo Saved, but budget spend didn't change!!!! 38 trillion in debt and growing, nothing is saved, nothing ever will be unless we start eliminating all government spending.
1997   MolotovCocktail   @   2026 Feb 24, 9:07pm  

Patrick says


Elon never explains why the owners of AI would share any wealth at all with anyone else.

They won't.


The idea being all that is that the tech will be so transformative and leakable that the difference between rich and poor will collapse.

Mostly because the poor will no longer be worth extracting anything from, mostly. And that is how they mostly have been wealthy. That and money won't be worth the same. Very few got that way by providing real value aka Ford, Edison & Musk.

Also, all it would take is some wealthy folks to distribute that tech as a form of 'charity' and that would be enough.
1998   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2026 Feb 26, 10:16pm  

I could imagine the feds passing some sort of law: for every AI agent you employ you must also employ 2 humans.

Made up numbers but something like that.

If AI can do 97% of the jobs a year from now, robots will cover the remaining 3%.

I still haven't seen AGI yet. Close but not the real deal. Yet.
1999   HeadSet   @   2026 Feb 27, 7:42am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

I still haven't seen AGI yet. Close but not the real deal.

A machine that can originate a thought? I assume that is what "General Intelligence" means. So far it just looks like libraries, one that can search a massive database combined with a massive amount of procedural routines.
2000   gabbar   @   2026 Mar 3, 3:53am  

If you spare the wolf, you sacrifice the sheep. Sparing the wolf is shallow, not deep, empathy. - Elon Musk
2001   Eric_Holder   @   2026 Mar 3, 12:00pm  

gabbar says


If you spare the wolf, you sacrifice the sheep. Sparing the wolf is shallow, not deep, empathy. - Elon Musk


So, back in 2022, when Musk switched off Starlink in Black Sea after learning that Ukies are about to sink Red Fleet fregates which were lobbing cruise missiles into shopping centers and maternity wards on a daily basis, who exactly was he sparing if not the wolf?
2002   gabbar   @   2026 Mar 11, 4:20am  

"It's easy to be a warmonger if you don't risk dying at the front lines. It's fucked up that people are having fancy dinners in Washington, D.C. while people are being slaughtered. That’s cruel and lacking in empathy."- Elon Musk
2003   gabbar   @   2026 Mar 11, 5:08am  

If Iran's nuclear facilities have been destroyed...why are we even there?
2004   RC2006   @   2026 Mar 11, 6:07am  

Our politicians have no honor. Majority are sellouts, cowards,and traitors.
2005   Patrick   @   2026 Mar 11, 6:18pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Also, all it would take is some wealthy folks to distribute that tech as a form of 'charity' and that would be enough.


One other requirement: equal access to land. That would require land value taxes, aka Georgism.

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