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2022 Mar 23, 5:15pm   2,398 views  51 comments

by FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

6.10 already in our area. Fucking $6.10 It is insane.

And news of course ignores it, it's just ok. they are too fucking busy worrying about some country fuck knows where in Europe near Russia. I'm fucking pissed. What affects me, gas prices. Hate the gas prices, hate the media. This country is ran by assholes.

Maybe instead of sending Ukraine billions they should send us gas vouchers, it's our fucking money!

Just ranting, really upset over this shit. It's lowering our budgets significantly because I'm not rich.

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14   Booger   2022 Mar 24, 2:15am  

richwicks says
B.A.C.A.H. says
The reality of the energy density of the liquid fuels, what we get for what we pay, $6 or even $20 is an incredible bargain, compared to feeding-watering-taking care of horses.


My father, who was born in 1938 told me a story about his uncle he heard when he was a kid - his first ride in a car.

His uncle was driven from Harrisville NY to Star Lake. He got there in an hour. He never gone so fast in his life!

They are 20 miles apart.

I wonder how many talked to the Silent generation when you were kids. My grandmother and her siblings told me that "life was so much easier". They got vacuum cleaners, washing machines, and dish washers introduced to them in their lifetime. They used to beat rugs to clean them, scrub clothes on a wash board, and of course all dishes were washed by hand. Most of them didn't bother with a dish washer, it only took a few minutes...


And that is also why there weren't any fat people back then either.
15   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Mar 24, 6:47am  

clambo says
It’s too bad they didn’t encourage us to use natural gas to run our cars.
I would have considered converting a vehicle to CNG but there’s no place to fill up almost.
It’s better all around and cheaper, just slightly less power than gasoline.
Buses run fine on it all over the place.

I had one of those, 2007 - 2018. It was an off-the-shelf CNG-powered Honda Civic. Got the Cool And Hip California Air Resources Board ("CARB") rebate and tax credits. These payments just about cancelled out the premium I had to pay over getting a gasoline-powered Civic.
For driving around the Bay Area the fueling worked out OK. There's fueling places here and there for the buses, delivery vans and whatnot. PG&E maintenance yards, UPS terminals, airports (for their shuttles), and some retail locations.

It's true the CNG price was always lower than gasoline. When gasoline spiked in 2008, CNG price tracked with gasoline, up about the same percentage.

The drawback is the tank is only good for ten years. After that, the insurance company, the PG&E filling stations, and the Honda dealer service places require the tank replacement due to concern for metal fatigue cycling to the 3600 psi. (The tank is like a bomb). The replacement cost is $8500. I traded in the car for a plug in hybrid in 2018
16   WookieMan   2022 Mar 24, 8:23am  

Willy Wilson in Chicago is giving away $1M in gas today in Chicago. $50 per car allowance. It totally is fucking up traffic. Me thinks he's going to run for mayor of Chicago or Cook County President again. I've never heard the traffic chick so shocked on the morning news. Every arterial street and interstate was fucked up this morning. Thank god I didn't need to go to the city for a flight.

As a former commuter for 15 years I've never seen anything like it, at least on the news.
17   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 24, 8:31am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Maybe instead of sending Ukraine billions they should send us gas vouchers, it's our fucking money!


If you want gas vouchers - move to California: Newscum will be sending $400 per vehicle.
18   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 24, 8:33am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
6.10 already in our area. Fucking $6.10 It is insane.


You should be happy - it hits Demon Rats voters the hardest.
19   clambo   2022 Mar 24, 8:34am  

I want to get that bumper sticker “Trust me, you’re fucked.”

The government is paying losers to breed more losers; it also encourages foreigners to come here to breed. The absolute worst is bringing in muslims to breed.

The teeming masses will cause your taxes to rise, price of housing to rise, gasoline consumption increases and oil prices rise, everything will rise.

The least of your problems is the cost of gasoline.

Ironically for me is the more poor are bred, the more shit they consume and the more stocks rise, including dividends. So, I hate the situation but I’m getting richer.

When I went to the Apple Store to recycle a laptop I was pleased to see all of them who contributed to my AAPL dividends.
20   Hircus   2022 Mar 24, 9:26am  

Does anyone think high gas prices will act kinda like an alternative way to dampen economic activity? Rising interest rates takes money out of the economy, cooling inflation. Making people pay more for gas also takes money out of the economy, although, since gas/oil is an input cost for so many things, it would seem to cause inflation at the same time by increasing prices due to increasing input costs. I'm not sure how the duality would balance out, but maybe it would generally cool inflation while increasing it in some specific areas.

Also, I heard someone say the us is in a unique position compared to the rest of the world in that we have great access to shale oil. Regular oil wells take months or years to build and produce, while shale takes a mere month or 2. So the rising oil prices will very soon cause new shale oil output that wasnt previously possible at lower prices. Although, seems to me this means oil prices may stop climbing for us, but I'm not sure it means they will come down much, as if prices fall too far, those new shale wells would shut down - they have to stay somewhat elevated to keep the new shale wells online.
21   Ceffer   2022 Mar 24, 9:34am  

clambo says
When I went to the Apple Store to recycle a laptop I was pleased to see all of them who contributed to my AAPL dividends.

Why, you calloused rentier, you. Maybe we should change your moniker to Caligula Clambo.
22   WookieMan   2022 Mar 24, 9:37am  

Hircus says
Although, seems to me this means oil prices may stop climbing for us, but I'm not sure it means they will come down much, as if prices fall too far, those new shale wells would shut down - they have to stay somewhat elevated to keep the new shale wells online.

None of it makes sense. I feel like globalist and industries just take turn raping the public. We literally had 2 years of people sitting at home. No one stopped drilling or grabbing existing oil and population didn't grow at a rate that warrants these increases, Biden just stopped expansion. And demand had to be 20-30% lower with work from home even before Covid. More people driving EV's as well.

Supply chain got fucked up, but we should have massive amounts of oil ready to refine after demand dropped. Again, the market just doesn't make sense. I've been reading about $1k/person flights out of Boston to Mexico and Jamaica. Part of me thinks some of this is make up for the Covid drop off in fuel usage for profit and isn't a rational market.
23   Hircus   2022 Mar 24, 9:40am  

clambo says
Ironically for me is the more poor are bred, the more shit they consume and the more stocks rise, including dividends.


For some time now I've felt the motives behind the obvious push by dems to let many illegals in (and the half-hearted faux resistance to it staged by most reps) is:
- Many large businesses with heavy political donation power want lots of cheap labor to pick their berries.
- Demographics. Our country has a lackluster birthrate by Americans. Illegals from south of the border still like to have babies, so letting many millions of them in will reenergize and reshape our population growth pyramid. This will help us deal with our debt in the future, keeping the ponzi spending scheme going, as well as make most large business owners (donors) happy by growing their client base via pop growth. It would also help us to stay powerful - the chyna economy will eclipse ours mostly due to their larger population, so reducing the gap would be expected to help.
-Votes, of course too.
24   zzyzzx   2022 Mar 24, 11:49am  

Fuck Joe Biden!
25   Eman   2022 Mar 24, 6:11pm  

10 cents/kWh at Prospect HS in Saratoga during peak hours. Unheard of.

26   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Mar 24, 7:46pm  

WineHorror1 says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
6.10 already in our area. Fucking $6.10 It is insane.

Where are you located? I assume California?


for 3 more month yeah. not gonna be cheaper by much in Idaho though. ill be making less there too, its a wash
27   SunnyvaleCA   2022 Mar 24, 8:03pm  

Eman says
Truth be told, this is a tax on the poor and working class. It doesn’t impact the well off folks IMO. I hope the poor and working class folks, who voted for Biden, are happy with their votes.

The immediate impact is on the poor and working class. The more affluent will feel it slowly over time with increased taxes and other government-induced problems.
28   SunnyvaleCA   2022 Mar 24, 8:07pm  

I hear some states are cancelling their state taxes on fuel. I don't see how this will help much, as it won't increase supply or decrease demand.

Here in California, there's a proposal to give $400 to every registered vehicle owner. I suppose this includes EVs? The good news is that it isn't means tested, so I'll finally be getting some tiny bit of my tax money back from the state!
29   Eman   2022 Mar 24, 8:11pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
Eman says
Truth be told, this is a tax on the poor and working class. It doesn’t impact the well off folks IMO. I hope the poor and working class folks, who voted for Biden, are happy with their votes.

The immediate impact is on the poor and working class. The more affluent will feel it slowly over time with increased taxes and other government-induced problems.


This is what you’re projecting. Time will tell. I’m not smart to know, and it’s beyond my control. Over 90% of our net worth is in Bay Area real estate. I want to raise my cash stash so I can just pick up my bags and leave CA when SHTF.

This place has become a living hell for the working class IMO. I don’t know how they make ends meet.
30   ForcedTQ   2022 Mar 25, 7:35am  

SunnyvaleCA says
I hear some states are cancelling their state taxes on fuel. I don't see how this will help much, as it won't increase supply or decrease demand.

Here in California, there's a proposal to give $400 to every registered vehicle owner. I suppose this includes EVs? The good news is that it isn't means tested, so I'll finally be getting some tiny bit of my tax money back from the state!


So far the proposal Does include EVs. I think it shouldn’t. EV owners don’t pay fuel road taxes at the pump, and as such, those vehicles that are full BEV should be excluded from any kind of fuel tax offsetting payout.
31   clambo   2022 Mar 25, 8:28am  

Hircus is correct, rising crude oil prices will slow down the economy so raising interest rates is now unnecessary.
32   Shaman   2022 Mar 25, 8:49am  

clambo says
Hircus is correct, rising crude oil prices will slow down the economy so raising interest rates is now unnecessary.


This may have been the point of provoking Russia into invading Ukraine and then sanctions that are going to hurt the world more than Russia. The Fed can’t raise rates much without bankrupting our government. But if you just kill the economy and make everyone poorer, that will also kill inflation.
33   clambo   2022 Mar 25, 8:53am  

Putin needed no provocation.

On Feb 14 Germany clearly said that NATO membership for Ukraine was not under consideration.
34   WookieMan   2022 Mar 25, 9:58am  

ForcedTQ says
EV owners don’t pay fuel road taxes at the pump, and as such, those vehicles that are full BEV should be excluded from any kind of fuel tax offsetting payout.

I'd agree. Cars generally are not the wear and tear on the road though. It's semi's which include fuel trucks. Weight is the biggest factor in road deterioration in a place like CA. IL it's the freeze/thaw cycle of winter combined with trucks. I don't like EV's for my personal use, but I see value in them, but also understand the need for ICE vehicles. It's a balancing act.

I don't know what the happy medium is. I'm biased because high oil prices and huge trucks make me more money. EV's are not the "green dream" most people believe. You'd need 60-80% of electric output to be solar, wind, hydro or nukes for that to be the case. No where near that. Lithium ain't cheap to extract and most certainly uses ICE construction equipment. Then factor in coal power plants and it's not what everyone thinks it is.

You can link propaganda articles about ICE vehicles, but they're not reducing emissions and likely putting more out. Maybe in 10-20 years it will be different. Right now your Tesla is emitting more than a Honda Civic 100%. Either way I don't care. I'm not convinced CO2 is doing anything. Given the power of the sun, a 1,000 mile shift in orbit (totally nothing) could shift temperatures. Given the distances that's a rounding error, but could raise temp 1ºF and has nothing to do with CO2. So we extract earth minerals for feel goods. Logical...

And yes, I get the driving and acceleration, it's fun. But people gotta stop thinking they're doing something good. They're not.
35   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 10:51am  

Shaman says
This may have been the point of provoking Russia into invading Ukraine


Poor, stupid Russia: got herself provoked into a quagmire for no good reason. Low IQ country indeed.
36   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 10:58am  

clambo says
Putin needed no provocation.

On Feb 14 Germany clearly said that NATO membership for Ukraine was not under consideration.


And after a month of war it's abundantly clear to everyone that Ukrainian military was nowere near being in position of successfully invading Russia with any meaningful results. They are barely holding their lines, for fuck's sake and attacking requires even more capabilities than defense.

It is also abundantly clear that NATO was not "itching for war with Russia" either because it's now peeing its collective panties at even possibility of handing over old MiGs.
37   Shaman   2022 Mar 25, 11:44am  

Eric Holder says
Shaman says
This may have been the point of provoking Russia into invading Ukraine


Poor, stupid Russia: got herself provoked into a quagmire for no good reason. Low IQ country indeed.


The USA had far less reason to be “provoked” into a second war/quagmire with Iraq. Or even Afghanistan.
38   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 11:53am  

Shaman says
Eric Holder says
Shaman says
This may have been the point of provoking Russia into invading Ukraine


Poor, stupid Russia: got herself provoked into a quagmire for no good reason. Low IQ country indeed.


The USA had far less reason to be “provoked” into a second war/quagmire with Iraq. Or even Afghanistan.


So Putin is not smarter than Boooosh? QED.
39   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Mar 25, 1:23pm  

Eric Holder says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Maybe instead of sending Ukraine billions they should send us gas vouchers, it's our fucking money!


If you want gas vouchers - move to California: Newscum will be sending $400 per vehicle.


I know CA, they'll tax me $1000, then they'll give me $50 back to feel good about myself. Because they are faggots!
40   ForcedTQ   2022 Mar 25, 1:47pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Eric Holder says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Maybe instead of sending Ukraine billions they should send us gas vouchers, it's our fucking money!


If you want gas vouchers - move to California: Newscum will be sending $400 per vehicle.


I know CA, they'll tax me $1000, then they'll give me $50 back to feel good about myself. Because they are faggots!


Which is exactly what they do with utilities charges. CO2 is bad surcharges on your electric and natural gas consumption come back to you at pennies on the dollar in the form of the California Climate Credit on your bill each April and October.

They say that money should be spent on energy efficiency upgrades to use less energy/fuel.
41   clambo   2022 Mar 25, 2:19pm  

California has become New York.

Once upon a time, people went to get higher paying jobs in NYC with its vibrant economy.

Now everyone is leaving except the mega bucks rich who are often foreigners and entertainers..

California was great and better in every way than NYC.

But, now it’s becoming expensive and the more you try to make money to keep up, the more you are taxed.

You’re not going to win unless you’re in high tech or the government, including cops and firemen.

The teeming masses of foreigners and their spawn want your money or your job.

Buy a house, get trapped into a huge mortgage, your county government needs the property taxes.
42   JimSpatzenfeld   2022 Mar 25, 2:20pm  

It might go as high as $10/gallon, so better don’t complain about 6 bucks. It helps to keep the poor guys off the freeway, I like it!
43   gabbar   2022 Mar 25, 2:44pm  

Booger says
richwicks says
B.A.C.A.H. says
The reality of the energy density of the liquid fuels, what we get for what we pay, $6 or even $20 is an incredible bargain, compared to feeding-watering-taking care of horses.


My father, who was born in 1938 told me a story about his uncle he heard when he was a kid - his first ride in a car.

His uncle was driven from Harrisville NY to Star Lake. He got there in an hour. He never gone so fast in his life!

They are 20 miles apart.

I wonder how many talked to the Silent generation when you were kids. My grandmother and her siblings told me that "life was so much easier". They got vacuum cleaners, washing machines, and dish washers introduced to them in their lifetime. They used to beat rugs to clean them, scrub clothes on a wash board, and of course all dishes were wash...


I still wash dishes with my hands. Dishwasher leaves a thin film of dishwasher soap on the dishes. Cook about 90 percent of my food
44   clambo   2022 Mar 25, 3:31pm  

I've never used a dishwasher.
45   Patrick   2022 Mar 25, 5:54pm  

clambo says
On Feb 14 Germany clearly said that NATO membership for Ukraine was not under consideration.



The US also promised that NATO would expand "one inch" before taking in Poland and the Baltics.


The US promised NATO would not expand “one inch” to the East and since all NATO decisions have to be taken unanimously, the US could easily have blocked the expansion.

The German Reunification Treaty clearly states no NATO forces may be stationed in Former East German Territory. This was signed by both Germanies, Britain, France, the Soviet Union, and the US.

So it is pretty clear that, while there was no binding promise from NATO as an independent entity, Britain, France, Germany, and the US could each have vetoed expansion if they so desired.

This is a good example of NOT acting in good faith.


https://www.quora.com/Did-NATO-promise-not-to-expand-an-inch-towards-east-towards-Russia-in-return-of-Mikhail-Gorbachev-allowing-German-reunification-and-the-freedom-of-Soviet-satellite-states?source=patrick.net
46   clambo   2022 Mar 25, 6:31pm  

Changing the subject does not change what Putin knew on February 14.

Putin also agreed to respect Ukraine sovereignty if Ukraine gave them nuclear missiles, which they did.

NATO was never an invasion force, and Putin knows it.

However, he fears losing his influence over the former satellite countries.

Blaming the USA, NATO, Ukraine for Putin’s aggression is blaming the victim.

Does anyone actually think that NATO was conceived to attack Russia?
47   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 6:33pm  

clambo says
Putin also agreed to respect Ukraine sovereignty if Ukraine gave them nuclear missiles, which they did.


The US didn't respect Ukrainian sovereignty, which the United States also promised to do.

clambo says
Blaming the USA, NATO, Ukraine for Putin’s aggression is blaming the victim.


Oh please. The crackhead son artist of the president is at a no show job in Ukraine.



The US is up to their fucking balls in this shit.
48   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 6:39pm  

richwicks says
clambo says
Putin also agreed to respect Ukraine sovereignty if Ukraine gave them nuclear missiles, which they did.


The US didn't respect Ukrainian sovereignty, which the United States also promised to do.


How so? Remind me when did the US invade Ukraine. How many cities leveled, people killed?

PS. Besides, weren't you supposed to learn back in preschool that somebody else's alleged wrongdoings does not give you free pass for the same (or worse)? Or, more recently, didn't you find out that "But, Officer, everybody was speeding!" does not gets you out of ticket?
49   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 6:47pm  

Eric Holder says
richwicks says
clambo says
Putin also agreed to respect Ukraine sovereignty if Ukraine gave them nuclear missiles, which they did.


The US didn't respect Ukrainian sovereignty, which the United States also promised to do.


How so? Remind me when did the US invade Ukraine. How many cities leveled, people killed?


I don't know how many people that were killed by the pre-puppet government during the Maidan coup but I know for certain that the West doesn't believe that Viktor Yanukovych did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8&source=patrick.net

I am fucking tired of people thinking it's "good" versus "evil". It's so fucking childish. It's two criminal syndicates fighting one another. Idiots root for one side or the other.

No matter how many goddamned times I show leaked conversations of officials doing fucking evil shit, people just pretend it never happened. The US overthrew Ukraine, then they made false promises that Ukraine could enter NATO eventually, with no intention of every allowing that, and then let a bunch of people get killed.

They did the same exact fucking thing with Georgia.

Eric Holder says
PS. Besides, weren't you supposed to learn back in preschool that somebody else's alleged wrongdoings does not give you free pass for the same (or worse)? Or, more recently, didn't you find out that "But, Officer, everybody was speeding!" does not gets you out of ticket?


I have a government that lies to me constantly, calls me a "white supremacist terrorist", and is pushing LGBTQ nonsense on Kindergartners. Do you think I have any allegiance to these fuckers at this point?

If Putin WERE Hitler, well, he's doesn't effect me. He's no threat to me, my government is a threat to me. They've openly stated it. If you're an American, they're a threat to you. Useful idiots die first.

I'm loyal to a government that no longer exists and I hold out hope that maybe they'll come back. We'll see.
50   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 25, 7:01pm  

richwicks says

How so? Remind me when did the US invade Ukraine. How many cities leveled, people killed?


I don't know how many people that were killed by the pre-puppet government during the Maidan coup but I know for certain that the West doesn't believe that Viktor Yanukovych did it.


Who's "the West"? Some loony movie director with a man crush on Putin? LOL. And did not do what, exactly? Did not refuse to sign the Association Agreement with the EU, which he promised to do during his campaign, after meeting with Putin? He most certainly did - it's a historic fact. Refused to fire his Minister of Internal Affairs after peaceful protestors were beaten bloody on Nov 30, 2013? He most certainly did refuse to fire him, triggering almost half a million strong protest the very next day. Are you saying it was the US who made him refuse to sign the agreement, beat the original protesters and refuse to fire that minister?

And since you're so informed you don't even know how many people died between the start of the protests on Nov 30, 2013 and Yanukovich's run for Moscow on Feb 20, 2014, I'll enlighten you: roughly hundred civilians and less than 20 policemen.

So, back to that invasion by the US. When did it happen?
51   richwicks   2022 Mar 25, 7:09pm  

Eric Holder says
Who's "the West"? Some loony movie director with a man crush on Putin?


You can't see it? Really?

It's the nations that are all in with endless, pointless, wars. Every nation that supported the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia - and accepted the refugees that were created by those wars with NO MISSION and endlessly promote propaganda, and now censorship - that's the west now.

The New USSR.

Eric Holder says
Are you saying it was the US who made him refuse to sign the agreement, beat the original protesters and refuse to fire that minister?


I'm saying protesters are useful idiots that can be mobilized on a few dimes, like Antifa and BLM were here in the United States. I'm saying they'd protest the sky being blue, because they are that stupid and brainless.

Ukraine needed money, and Yanukovych appealed to both the ECB and Russia - and Russia gave him a better deal. Considering how the EU had FUCKED Greece over, it was in the interest for him to work with Russia - but a bunch of NPC twats were programmed to resist that.

I am always tempted to say people are stupid, but they aren't. They are easily controlled - intelligence has nothing to do with it. They can't see when they are being used.

Eric Holder says
So, back to that invasion by the US. When did it happen?


The US avoids invasions. It's cheaper to have coups and then let people die. They did it in Operation Ajax and PBSuccess, and Ukraine, and most recently, the United States itself.

The US isn't acting in the interests of these nations, or even US interests, it's acting in the interests for US oligarchs and multinational corporations - they just charge the US citizenry for it, but they get nothing out of it other than a bunch of propaganda, and mindless smugness about "being on the right side".

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