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2022 Mar 5, 8:17pm   1,697 views  60 comments

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March 03 2022, 10.20pm GMT
Three Russian army commanders have been killed after moving towards the front line in an apparent attempt to restore momentum among junior ranks, western officials believe.
The death of Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky, a Spetsnaz or special forces commander and deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, was disclosed on Thursday. He is thought to be the highest-ranking member of the force to be killed.

Western officials believe that a divisional commander and a regimental commander have also been killed. An official said: “My assessment would be that those commanders have been killed because they’ve had to go further and closer to the front, rather than them being in the rear of operations.”

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that he believed commanders felt they had to move further forward to “get greater . . . control over operations”.

The spokesman added: “That’s an indication perhaps that they have some degree of frustration, some degree of lack of progress and they are trying to impose their sort of personality on to the battlefield and then putting themselves at personal risk.”

The official said that it was not surprising they felt they had to go further forward to “bring some order and intervene in the Russian attack because it has stalled in some areas so badly”.

He said that he believed the “ferocity of the fight” was having a “psychological impact on the Russian troops”.

British and American generals have been perplexed by Russia’s strategy and its repeated failures on the battlefield against a much smaller Ukrainian force. Russian troops are believed to be suffering from low morale as a result of hunger, lack of direction and confusion about their mission.
Some of the soldiers were thought to have been told to expect Ukrainians to welcome them with open arms but instead they have come up against fierce resistance.
One young Russian prisoner of war was captured on camera crying to his mother after being given tea and bread by Ukrainians.

Russia has admitted that 498 of its soldiers have been killed and 1,597 wounded in the fighting. Western officials say that they believe this is a significant underestimation of the casualties. Ukraine claims that the death toll for the Russians is as high as 9,000.
In response to mass protests against the war, it has been reported that President Putin has announced that families of soldiers killed will receive payments of 12 million roubles (£87,000) and 2.8 million roubles (£20,000) plus monthly welfare if they are disabled.

The western official said that the 40-mile convoy that had barely moved in three days north of Kyiv, the capital city, was an example of Russia’s “poor planning and poor execution”.

He said that the convoy had been attacked on several occasions by Ukraine forces, which had had an impact. The military procession also faced “enormous” logistic challenges.

Bridges have been destroyed by soldiers and civilians, leaving the vehicles struggling to move. The Russians did not appear to have the engineering capabilities to overcome the problems.

The official said that it had become “in effect an enormously large traffic jam” with some vehicles damaged or destroyed.


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23   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 10:38am  

clambo says


Hundreds of tanks were destroyed and it’s still early in the war.


Allegedly, by the same Media that said wearing a Mask was absolute science and essential to stopping COVID. And that CRT was only taught in law school, not taught in K12, before finally insisting it was vital to teach to K-12.

We know for a FACT that Fauci funded the Wuhan Labs. We now know FOR A FACT that Obama and Lugar funded Biolabs in Ukraine, and apparently (this needs verification) those Ukrainian labs got US Dept of Defense money.
24   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 11:16am  

Exactly. Any report that comes out of the corporate media is good evidence that it is not true.

The corporate media has become a negative indicator of truth.

The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".
25   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Mar 11, 11:26am  

They were fragged by the conscripts.
26   clambo   2022 Mar 11, 11:28am  

I’m willing to believe that many tanks and other vehicles were destroyed.

I’m not watching the alphabet news.

Guys here who want to call me a fool, go ahead, flame away.

I have seen a little bit of the Soviet Union and the place would make a good three stooges episode.

They are “invincible” fighting civilians, except today evidently not even that.
27   richwicks   2022 Mar 11, 11:34am  

Patrick says
The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".


There is no news in Izvestia either.

Izvestia is Russian for news.

You know, I have to admit I'm a bit happy that our news media is finally recognized for what it really is - propaganda. I've been wishing for this day for decades when the AVERAGE person can say "I don't trust the mainstream media" and not be called a nutcase for saying it.
29   Ceffer   2022 Mar 11, 11:45am  

In the midst of all this glorious Ukrainian Nazi resistance and killing of the faltering Russians, the Russians have essentially circled 40,000 Ukrainian troops in Eastern Ukraine in one of their 'cauldron' movements. Once these troops are boiled in the 'causdron' and secured either through destruction or surrender, the faltering, failing, defeated Russians will have less resistance all the way to Kiev. They will falter and stagger until the Globalist pawns meet their conditions.
30   clambo   2022 Mar 11, 12:00pm  

Someone is eating pot laced gummy bears
31   Misc   2022 Mar 11, 12:07pm  

Somehow, we get all these reports of fallen Russian commanders, but nothing about fallen Ukrainian commanders.

Which side has people fleeing again?
32   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 3:26pm  

Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.

Zelensky wants him to enter Kiev so the US media has lots of pictures of war, dead civilians, and glorious (but ultimately futile) resistance fighters.

But it's pretty much over.

China, India, and Brazil have no intention of sanctioning Putin. Nor will they no matter how much the Western Media waves the bloody shirt (We can't control every flying brick or rubble and deflect it away from civilians and neither can the Russians; the difference is the 2003 Media didn't run civilian collateral damage video much at all).
33   Shaman   2022 Mar 11, 3:39pm  

AmericanKulak says
Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.


Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.
34   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 4:39pm  

I also suspect it's pretty much over, and that Russia will keep the breakaway republics, maybe letting them be nominally independent.

I noticed that the price of gold ticked down.



Of course I could be wrong. I didn't think he'd really invade to begin with.
35   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 4:50pm  

Gold bugs can't catch a break.
36   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 4:51pm  

Shaman says
Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.


Yep, I think he's got the regime bottled up in Kiev, the Donetsk/Luhansk Siege + (Maybe an extra chunk of the real UA transferred East expecting the attack from there), it's a waiting game.

Have to catch up on the news and maps today though.
37   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 14, 10:40am  

Another colonel goes to hell:

39   ChauvinsKnee   2022 Mar 19, 10:56pm  

Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Captain First Rank Andrey Paliy has joined his friends in hell.

40   mostly reader   2022 Mar 19, 11:17pm  

Colonel Sukharev. A used-to-be commander of 331 VDV regiment from Kostroma.

This is an honorable mention. Highlighting a colonel in a thread which mostly mentions generals. He is the cocksucker who in 2014 guaranteed the safe passage of unarmed Ukrainian troops surrounded by Illovaisk, and then used artillery to kill them off during the passage.

Welcome to hell, comrade.
41   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 19, 11:36pm  

mostly reader says
Colonel Sukharev. A used-to-be commander of 331 VDV regiment from Kostroma.

This is an honorable mention. Highlighting a colonel in a thread which mostly mentions generals. He is the cocksucker who in 2014 guaranteed the safe passage of unarmed Ukrainian troops surrounded by Illovaisk, and then used artillery to kill them off during the passage.

Welcome to hell, comrade.


Rest in pieces!
42   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 21, 2:37pm  

Commander of the Airborne Assault Brigade #171 (Feodosia), Lieutenant Colonel Sharshavov Aleksey Vasilyevich has joined his comrades in the boiling tar pits of hell:






https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1505993173621002244?source=patrick.net
44   clambo   2022 Mar 21, 4:32pm  

Some Putin fanboys are disappointed. Boo hoo.
45   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 31, 9:11am  




https://mobile.twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/1508890508046835721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net


PS. Ilovaysk is the infamous episode of the early stages of this war (Aug 2014) when regular Russian troops (which, of course, were "not there") promised a "green corridor" to the encircled Ukrainians and then shot them up once they started moving out through the agreed route. The fuck in the pucture us the guy who gave them "the word if a Russian officer" they won't be shot at.
46   RWSGFY   2022 Apr 16, 7:40am  

(google translate)

In St. Petersburg on April 16, they said goodbye to the deputy commander of the 8th Army, Major General Vladimir Petrovich Frolov. His funeral was held at the Serafimovsky cemetery with military honors, the ceremony was attended by Governor Alexander Beglov. This was reported by the press service of the administration of St. Petersburg.

According to the governor, Vladimir Frolov "fell the death of the brave" in battles with the Ukrainian enemy.


https://www.fontanka.ru/2022/04/16/71262053/?source=patrick.net
47   GNL   2022 Apr 16, 10:06am  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?


Sure, it can be copied.

The point of a digital signature is that

1) it can be verified
2) it can ONLY be produced by the signer.

You can copy the message, but if you modified it in any way, the digital signature won't match when it's verified.

Hmm. I think I just had a bidness idea..

@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.
48   richwicks   2022 Apr 16, 10:34am  

WineHorror1 says
@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.


You have it backwards. Anything physical can be faked, but a digital signature can't be.

The dead sea scrolls, ALL OF THEM, are likely to be forgeries. Now if sha2 has a weakness and is actually cracked, only then can you forge a digital signature.
49   GNL   2022 Apr 16, 12:07pm  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.


You have it backwards. Anything physical can be faked, but a digital signature can't be.

The dead sea scrolls, ALL OF THEM, are likely to be forgeries. Now if sha2 has a weakness and is actually cracked, only then can you forge a digital signature.

Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?
50   richwicks   2022 Apr 16, 12:18pm  

WineHorror1 says
Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?


They key of the digital signature is yours alone. If it's compromised, i.e. duplicated by somebody, the key can be copied repeatedly. It's a key, and I've had to deal with keys with HIGH SECURITY, where getting access to it is a complete hassle - meaning I never got access to it - I would send a program to a 3rd party, that would send it one to another person who would copy the program, go into a VAULT, and then sign the program with a digital signature then return the signed program to me.

Using a digital signature requires HIGH VIGILANCE in protecting the key.

Witnesses can lie.

Digital signatures work in that you can make the signature, and other people can verify it without the key. They can see you signed it, and the only way to sign it, is with your key. If your key is compromised all bets are off. You need to protect a digital key. I have tons of them. Here's my public key for my computer:

ssh-rsa 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 username@my-machine

If you have a Unix machine, if you place that text in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - I can log into your machine. If I make a digital signature with my PRIVATE key you can use the key above to VERIFY digital signatures that I create with my PRIVATE key (which isn't shown obviously), but you can't use the public key to forge a signature.

And let me rant a little bit. There's no reason that ALL PROGRAMS on a computer aren't digitally signed to allow you to identify who created the executable. By limiting which publishers can run programs on your machine, you can entirely eliminate viruses. There is literally no reason that viruses can even exist today.

But they still exist, because somebody wants to allow them to exist.
51   GNL   2022 Apr 16, 1:52pm  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?


They key of the digital signature is yours alone. If it's compromised, i.e. duplicated by somebody, the key can be copied repeatedly. It's a key, and I've had to deal with keys with HIGH SECURITY, where getting access to it is a complete hassle - meaning I never got access to it - I would send a program to a 3rd party, that would send it one to another person who would copy the program, go into a VAULT, and then sign the program with a digital signature then return the signed program to me.

Using a digital signature requires HIGH VIGILANCE in protecting the key.

Witnesses can lie.

Digital signatures work in that you can make the signature, ...

I have no doubt you know more about this than I do. I do not even work in any IT field or close to it. However, I am more than sure that ANYTHING is hackable and in a court of law there could be NO proof beyond a doubt that it was YOU that signed that digital signature. This imo is where the wheels come off the clown car. Physical will always be superior to virtual. Those pushing us toward a virtual existence 1) profit from it and 2) think they are superior.
52   richwicks   2022 Apr 16, 2:04pm  

WineHorror1 says
I have no doubt you know more about this than I do. I do not even work in any IT field or close to it.


You made the correct career choice.

WineHorror1 says
However, I am more than sure that ANYTHING is hackable and in a court of law there could be NO proof beyond a doubt that it was YOU that signed that digital signature.


Digital signatures are useful to prove you wrote something. It's useful for asserting copyright. You can always repudiate you wrote something by releasing the private key.

And anyhow, there's no rule of law. Law is a fucking joke in the United States.

The assumption that is being made is that digital signatures are secure, future discoveries in math may invalidate everything BUT there might be unsolvable problems.

WineHorror1 says
This imo is where the wheels come off the clown car. Physical will always be superior to virtual. Those pushing us toward a virtual existence 1) profit from it and 2) think they are superior.


I don't necessarily agree with that.

I can store more books on a $25 SD Card than I (or anybody) can read in my entire lifetime. Now if I actually had those in the form of books, that would be a burden to have.

Part of digital storage is that we are at the point where the LOSERS can record history now. We are really in a very new time. We can, if we want to, record actual reality today so that 100 generations from now, it can be viewed.

Video is NOT going to improve. We're at the limit of the human retina. In 2000 years, somebody can witness what life was like in 2020 and the video reproduction of it will be no better than what is produced in 4020. This is a very strange time in which history can truly be recorded, not just the thoughts and writings of men, but the actions of them.

Imagine being able to see what life was really like in Rome by some citizen just recording it. That's where we are now.

You have no concept or appreciation of how much data you can record today. It's mind boggling. I record crap off the internet constantly just to see what is deleted. I have a 6 TB drive, I've been doing this for 1/2 decade, I have several virtual machines, and I don't have to worry yet about buying a new drive - which would be about $200 for twice the storage. Every film I've ever seen, every television show I've ever watched, every book I've ever read, every song I've ever heard, will easily fit on the device I have now. If this was physical media, circa 1990 - I'd have a room filled with this crap, not a drive.
53   GNL   2022 Apr 16, 3:17pm  

richwicks says
I can store more books on a $25 SD Card than I (or anybody) can read in my entire lifetime. Now if I actually had those in the form of books, that would be a burden to have.

You be relying on electricity.

richwicks says
Part of digital storage is that we are at the point where the LOSERS can record history now. We are really in a very new time. We can, if we want to, record actual reality today so that 100 generations from now, it can be viewed.


There was nothing to stop the "losers" (I understand what you mean when you call them losers, hence the quotations) before now. And if you think a film/video proves reality...boy howdy. I assume by using the word "reality" you mean truth?

richwicks says
You have no concept or appreciation of how much data you can record today. It's mind boggling. I record crap off the internet constantly just to see what is deleted. I have a 6 TB drive, I've been doing this for 1/2 decade, I have several virtual machines, and I don't have to worry yet about buying a new drive - which would be about $200 for twice the storage. Every film I've ever seen, every television show I've ever watched, every book I've ever read, every song I've ever heard, will easily fit on the device I have now. If this was physical media, circa 1990 - I'd have a room filled with this crap, not a drive.


It isn't the storing of the data I worry about. No, it's the ability to share it that worries me. And the ability to manipulate it. Just check textbooks going back in time. See any changes you don't agree with? Any manipulation there?
54   richwicks   2022 Apr 16, 3:23pm  

WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
I can store more books on a $25 SD Card than I (or anybody) can read in my entire lifetime. Now if I actually had those in the form of books, that would be a burden to have.

You be relying on electricity.


Yes, minimal amounts. Even printed books dissolve to dust, you always need to renew everything, with digital it's trivial to do. 200 years ago, you had to setup a typesetting machine and spend 100's of man hours setting it up. Now you can do it. Cost you $25 now, probably $15 10 years from now.

WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
Part of digital storage is that we are at the point where the LOSERS can record history now. We are really in a very new time. We can, if we want to, record actual reality today so that 100 generations from now, it can be viewed.


There was nothing to stop the "losers" (I understand what you mean when you call them losers, hence the quotations) before now. And if you think a film/video proves reality...boy howdy. I assume by using the word "reality" you mean truth?


I mean that history can be accurately recorded. I'm fully convinced that much of what we are told is historical fact about WWII was just the current propaganda at the time. For example, why would you bring a population to a death camp? Just kill them on the train cycling the exhaust of the train into the cabin. If I was a sociopath and my job was to murder people I wouldn't build a death camp, I'd just kill them efficiently.

The "death camps" were labor camps but me just saying this gets a bunch of people screaming that I'm a holocaust denier.

This shit can end now. I can see my government lying in real time. It's not certain yet, but it appears that the Bucha massacre was carried out by Ukraine, against Russian sympathizers. Is this true? I'll know in a few months - that's a shitload better than never.

WineHorror1 says
It isn't the storing of the data I worry about. No, it's the ability to share it that worries me. And the ability to manipulate it. Just check textbooks going back in time. See any changes you don't agree with? Any manipulation there?


Collect old books.

Digital signatures can prevent alteration..

You have to realize we've been deceived not for the last few years, but CENTURIES. You worry how books have been altered? They always are, better get used to that.
55   HeadSet   2022 Apr 16, 5:31pm  

HunterTits says
How does one say Lebensraum in Russian?

"Ukraine"
56   RWSGFY   2022 Apr 16, 5:48pm  

HunterTits says
DooDahMan says
Eighth Russian general killed in Ukraine in another crushing blow for Putin’s failed invasion after 20,000 troops lost


DooDaDipShit is a total shill for the warmongers in our media.

Ukraine invasion is not a failure.

Ukraine is fucking toast. No crops are being planted. Port and rail facilities to import food have been bombed. 90% of Ukraine's population is going to starve one way or another.

How does one say Lebensraum in Russian?


So it's confirmed that the reason and goal of this war was the genocide of Ukrainians and nothing more. Or less.
57   richwicks   2022 Apr 16, 6:20pm  

RWSGFY says
So it's confirmed that the reason and goal of this war was the genocide of Ukrainians and nothing more. Or less.


Yes, that was obviously the goal of Ihor Kolomoyskyi and his puppet.

The goal of Russia is to keep NATO at bay.

The goal of the US is to weaken Russia and restart the Cold war.
58   mostly reader   2022 Apr 16, 9:04pm  

"Kolomoyskyi made Putin do it! He also crapped in Putin's pants!"

Hey, richwicks, that have you accepted that Rashists propaganda just makes shit up and runs with it?
Back references: https://patrick.net/post/1343769?offset=760#comment-1834002 https://patrick.net/post/1343769?offset=760#comment-1834024
60   RWSGFY   2022 May 1, 9:05am  

richwicks says

RWSGFY says
So it's confirmed that the reason and goal of this war was the genocide of Ukrainians and nothing more. Or less.


Yes, that was obviously the goal of Ihor Kolomoyskyi and his puppet.

The goal of Russia is to keep NATO at bay.

The goal of the US is to weaken Russia and restart the Cold war.


Who's "Kolomoyski" and how come he has so much sway over US and Putin?

And wtf is he doing in the thread dedicated to destroyed Russian commanders?

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