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That nurse is a brave individual. The hospital is the cowardly actor too afraid to actually give a termination letter.

HR and employees are Red Queen antagonists, adapting to one another with different ulterior motives. Kaiser Foundation over years of litigations have become past masters at such things as age discrimination by calling them something else and using their complicit thugee managers to do their dirty work. You can always find some paid stooge to do your dirty work, as our society is finding out writ both large and small.

Many of my wife's friends have had to do an elaborate tango between the unions and the managers to keep their positions after 50. Kaiser also doesn't want employees accumulating too much seniority related privileges and pay beyond a certain point.

These nurses are in a pretty good position as long as they don't quit and force them to fire them. The hospitals are fools, or they don't see the downside of the future inevitable litigations vs. whatever temporary useful idiot bounties they are collecting for doing these firings over Covid.

HeadSet says

That nurse is a brave individual. The hospital is the cowardly actor too afraid to actually give a termination letter.

That's why I don't believe the MSN/Marketwatch/CNN bullshit that employees can be fired for refusing the vaccine.

A dishonest approach is to use "Drug Testing" in comparison. However, Drug testing is a non-invasive Urine Test, it's usually a condition for employment known in advance, and continued drug testing is rare, and when it is a condition, it was clearly spelled out in advance in the contract prior to employment. COVID vaccines were not; and unlike non-invasive piss tests, they are invasive experimental treatments.

It's very clear that Employers have been instructed to intimidate or trick employees into leaving themselves over COVID Vax mandates. If the law was very clear and beyond debate, HR would be calling people into the office and getting them to sign forms prior to or after a refusal.

That they try to trick people into "Voluntary Resignation" instead of "Insubordination" is the key to understanding the Law isn't what the Media isn claiming it is.

Brave nurses doing the right thing, even for themselves. Show up for work, record everything, don't accept any bullshit except for a termination letter then sue the shit of the "hospital". I doubt that with the ongoing shortages possibly leading to avoidable deaths that their employer has much grounds for their termination in court.

HeadSet says

That nurse is a brave individual. The hospital is the cowardly actor too afraid to actually give a termination letter.

The hospital doesn't want to pay the unemployment insurance increase that comes with firing them, and also doesn't want to put itself in a weaker legal position. If the nurse "quits" they don't have to pay the increase and they can claim she just left.

Patrick says

HeadSet says

That nurse is a brave individual. The hospital is the cowardly actor too afraid to actually give a termination letter.

The hospital doesn't want to pay the unemployment insurance increase that comes with firing them, and also doesn't want to put itself in a weaker legal position. If the nurse "quits" they don't have to pay the increase and they can claim she just left.

Some scamployers apparently fired with gross violation clause in the beginning so they aren't on the hook for UE and the fired workers don't get anything but maybe they were sued too much for this despicable practice that they are now more careful and try to have the workers quit themselves through intimidation.

What happened with this nurse?

joshuatrio says

What happened with this nurse?

I want to know too, anyone has her social media?

joshuatrio says

What happened with this nurse?

Tiffany Dover'ed

Pretty much what my wife has been hearing through her nurse friends, as well as jabees known to us.