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Finally, the official anti-Ivermectin warning story
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2021 Aug 21, 5:48pm 6,945 views 69 comments
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Rin
2021 Aug 21, 5:50pm
Rin
2021 Aug 21, 5:50pm
First of all, let me respond to the FDA ... Fuck You!
And yes, it's better to start with Quercetin Phytosome with Vitamin C, D, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, R-Lipoic Acid, and Zinc for daily maintenance and only have the Rxs on hand if you feel an oncoming emergency.
And yes, it's better to start with Quercetin Phytosome with Vitamin C, D, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, R-Lipoic Acid, and Zinc for daily maintenance and only have the Rxs on hand if you feel an oncoming emergency.
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GNL
2021 Aug 21, 5:59pm
GNL
2021 Aug 21, 5:59pm
Rin says
Rin, can you put links when you post those supplements? I'm sure everyone can find C, D and Zinc but the other ones not so sure.
First of all, let me respond to the FDA ... Fuck You!
And yes, it's better to start with Quercetin Phytosome with Vitamin C, D, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, R-Lipoic Acid, and Zinc for daily maintenance and only have the Rxs on hand if you feel an oncoming emergency.
Rin, can you put links when you post those supplements? I'm sure everyone can find C, D and Zinc but the other ones not so sure.
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Rin
2021 Aug 21, 6:30pm
Rin
2021 Aug 21, 6:30pm
You can buy R-Lipoic Acid & N-Acetyl-Cysteine from online vitamin vendors like vitacost.com
Garlic's active ingredient is Allisure Allicin from allimax.us
Quercetin Phytosome is at thorne.com
Garlic's active ingredient is Allisure Allicin from allimax.us
Quercetin Phytosome is at thorne.com
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Onvacation
2021 Aug 21, 8:37pm
Onvacation
2021 Aug 21, 8:37pm
FDA says
Dear FDA, When will you tell us what is in the Vax? Not that I'm going to take that shit.
"many inactive ingredients found in animal products aren’t evaluated for use in people," the FDA warned.
Dear FDA, When will you tell us what is in the Vax? Not that I'm going to take that shit.
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Rin
2021 Aug 22, 9:42am
Rin
2021 Aug 22, 9:42am
Onvacation says
Let me help in that dept.
Aside from the mRNA, cholesterol & lipid (or phospholipid) encasing, there's graphene oxide which has near zero safety studies on humans. At best, they determined that less than a 7 nano-meter size is excreted through some mices' kidneys, giving us no idea if it polymerases in-situ making it near impossible to remove via the renal system.
To those fans of Moderna/Pfizer, good luck with that.
Dear FDA, When will you tell us what is in the Vax? Not that I'm going to take that shit.
Let me help in that dept.
Aside from the mRNA, cholesterol & lipid (or phospholipid) encasing, there's graphene oxide which has near zero safety studies on humans. At best, they determined that less than a 7 nano-meter size is excreted through some mices' kidneys, giving us no idea if it polymerases in-situ making it near impossible to remove via the renal system.
To those fans of Moderna/Pfizer, good luck with that.
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Karloff
2021 Aug 22, 9:47am
Karloff
2021 Aug 22, 9:47am
Just like when the government instituted prohibition on liquor then complained when people were poisoning themselves with "bathtub gin". Of course, it's not the nanny-state's fault..
An amazing level of ignorance regarding human behavior and complete disregard for freedoms. There is something seriously wrong with the mental state of all of these authoritarian types. These same boobs will then point out that making abortion illegal will result in dangerous back alley doctors performing unsafe procedures.
Once again, the cognitive dissonance is bewildering. People are not sane or rational creatures.
An amazing level of ignorance regarding human behavior and complete disregard for freedoms. There is something seriously wrong with the mental state of all of these authoritarian types. These same boobs will then point out that making abortion illegal will result in dangerous back alley doctors performing unsafe procedures.
Once again, the cognitive dissonance is bewildering. People are not sane or rational creatures.
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GNL
2021 Aug 22, 10:43am
GNL
2021 Aug 22, 10:43am
Karloff says
Are you agreeing that Ivermectin is dangerous?
Just like when the government instituted prohibition on liquor then complained when people were poisoning themselves with "bathtub gin". Of course, it's not the nanny-state's fault..
An amazing level of ignorance regarding human behavior and complete disregard for freedoms. There is something seriously wrong with the mental state of all of these authoritarian types. These same boobs will then point out that making abortion illegal will result in dangerous back alley doctors performing unsafe procedures.
Once again, the cognitive dissonance is bewildering. People are not sane or rational creatures.
Are you agreeing that Ivermectin is dangerous?
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Onvacation
2021 Aug 22, 10:47am
Onvacation
2021 Aug 22, 10:47am
WineHorror1 says
I think he is saying, "The government is killing us by limiting our freedom and access to information and effective medical treatment". At least that is what I am reading into his post.
Are you agreeing that Ivermectin is dangerous?
I think he is saying, "The government is killing us by limiting our freedom and access to information and effective medical treatment". At least that is what I am reading into his post.
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Ceffer
2021 Aug 22, 10:50am
Ceffer
2021 Aug 22, 10:50am
Got the sniffles yesterday. Took my second dose of horse ivermectin (little bit squeezed from syringe) and Quercetin, along with the rec'd vitamins.
Took my third doses today. So far so good. Of course, I have no control group and a sample of one, but they seem to help with whatever bug this is.
Main thing, I can't determine that I have been harmed at all, so it appears that the horse ivermectin is at its worse benign in me.
Took my third doses today. So far so good. Of course, I have no control group and a sample of one, but they seem to help with whatever bug this is.
Main thing, I can't determine that I have been harmed at all, so it appears that the horse ivermectin is at its worse benign in me.
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GNL
2021 Aug 22, 11:06am
GNL
2021 Aug 22, 11:06am
Ceffer says
Keep the updates coming please.
Got the sniffles yesterday. Took my second dose of horse ivermectin (little bit squeezed from syringe) and Quercetin, along with the rec'd vitamins.
Took my third doses today. So far so good. Of course, I have no control group and a sample of one, but they seem to help with whatever bug this is.
Main thing, I can't determine that I have been harmed at all, so it appears that the horse ivermectin is at its worse benign in me.
Keep the updates coming please.
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Patrick
2021 Aug 22, 11:14am
Patrick
2021 Aug 22, 11:14am
In response to the wave of propaganda claiming that Ivermectin is a "horse drug":
Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
1h
This type of "analysis" is really not helpful. Not disclosed is that Ivermectin is a human drug which is also used for veterinary purposes. And repurposed drugs versus vaccines is a false dichotomy. Most people seek Ivermectin for therapy.
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AmericanKulak
2021 Aug 22, 11:25am
AmericanKulak
2021 Aug 22, 11:25am
Ceffer says
Excellent @Ceffer. Please update regularly, Neeeeeigh.
Got the sniffles yesterday. Took my second dose of horse ivermectin (little bit squeezed from syringe) and Quercetin, along with the rec'd vitamins.
Took my third doses today. So far so good. Of course, I have no control group and a sample of one, but they seem to help with whatever bug this is.
Main thing, I can't determine that I have been harmed at all, so it appears that the horse ivermectin is at its worse benign in me.
Excellent @Ceffer. Please update regularly, Neeeeeigh.
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Rin
2021 Aug 22, 11:53am
Rin
2021 Aug 22, 11:53am
Onvacation says
I echo that sentiment.
The fact is that Ivermectin, is for both animals and humans, with the caveat that for human administration, a qualified health care practitioner should assist with proper dosage and timing.
In place of the above, ALL stateside health care practitioners are gagged and prevented from even talking about Ivermection w/o fear of losing their 'provider' license from the state boards, including nurses, PAs, and doctors.
I think he is saying, "The government is killing us by limiting our freedom and access to information and effective medical treatment". At least that is what I am reading into his post.
I echo that sentiment.
The fact is that Ivermectin, is for both animals and humans, with the caveat that for human administration, a qualified health care practitioner should assist with proper dosage and timing.
In place of the above, ALL stateside health care practitioners are gagged and prevented from even talking about Ivermection w/o fear of losing their 'provider' license from the state boards, including nurses, PAs, and doctors.
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GNL
2021 Aug 22, 11:59am
GNL
2021 Aug 22, 11:59am
Rin says
"without fear" or "for fear"?
prevented from even talking about Ivermection w/o fear of losing their 'provider' license
"without fear" or "for fear"?
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stereotomy
2021 Aug 22, 12:29pm
stereotomy
2021 Aug 22, 12:29pm
Rin says
Allicin is a lot cheaper if you buy from the UK:
https://www.allicin.co.uk/
Allimed 100pk is 36 GBP ~ $49 instead of $150 at allimax.com
Otherwise, all hail Rin Wah law
You can buy R-Lipoic Acid & N-Acetyl-Cysteine from online vitamin vendors like vitacost.com
Garlic's active ingredient is Allisure Allicin from allimax.us
Quercetin Phytosome is at thorne.com
Allicin is a lot cheaper if you buy from the UK:
https://www.allicin.co.uk/
Allimed 100pk is 36 GBP ~ $49 instead of $150 at allimax.com
Otherwise, all hail Rin Wah law
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Karloff
2021 Aug 22, 12:30pm
Karloff
2021 Aug 22, 12:30pm
WineHorror1 says
Not at all. It might be dangerous in extreme amounts, most things are, even water. The point is that the government causes dangerous situations by criminalizing safer ones. If doctors were allowed to prescribe ivermectin, or even better, if you could ask for it from a pharmacist, they would give you a dose that was within safe limits. Instead, some people go out on their own without any knowledge and make a mistake. Personally, I don't believe the existence of such mistakes justifies restricting the freedoms of others. I'm just asking that the knowledge and information be made available and allow people to make their own decisions.
Their whole statement might be a lie though. It's entirely possible, even likely, that nobody overdosed on the paste and they're just scaremongering.
Are you agreeing that Ivermectin is dangerous?
Not at all. It might be dangerous in extreme amounts, most things are, even water. The point is that the government causes dangerous situations by criminalizing safer ones. If doctors were allowed to prescribe ivermectin, or even better, if you could ask for it from a pharmacist, they would give you a dose that was within safe limits. Instead, some people go out on their own without any knowledge and make a mistake. Personally, I don't believe the existence of such mistakes justifies restricting the freedoms of others. I'm just asking that the knowledge and information be made available and allow people to make their own decisions.
Their whole statement might be a lie though. It's entirely possible, even likely, that nobody overdosed on the paste and they're just scaremongering.
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Onvacation
2021 Aug 22, 2:44pm
Onvacation
2021 Aug 22, 2:44pm
WineHorror1 says
Both work. One is more clear.
Rin saysprevented from even talking about Ivermection w/o fear of losing their 'provider' license
"without fear" or "for fear"?
Both work. One is more clear.
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NuttBoxer
2021 Aug 22, 8:50pm
NuttBoxer
2021 Aug 22, 8:50pm
Picked up some Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin from Mexico this weekend. Will be getting more until we have enough to cover our whole family. As mentioned, only for a worse case scenario, which I only anticipate if we come into contact with someone who's recently gotten a shot. We have most of the supplements already as part of our normal sickness regiment, but got a few natural alternatives to hydroxy and ivermectin as well.
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Ceffer
2021 Aug 22, 10:25pm
Ceffer
2021 Aug 22, 10:25pm
I have taken 3 doses so far of horse ivermectin (a bit squeezed out the end to maintain dose parity) without any apparent ill effects. The last two during this cold. I can't determine any particular ill effects. I'm tired from the cold, but I think the effect of the Ivermectin/Quercetin could be to tamp down the symptoms, cough, maybe quiet the lungs. That could be enough to get one over the hump by dousing the worst of the effects of a more virulent virus, if the cocktail is in fact responsible, which I can't vouch for.
The main thing, as I said, is that it doesn't appear to have toxicity or side effects that I can tell in my own case only and with my own use only. Again, this represents a sample of one with no control and only subjective reporting. Anybody taking it would have to do so at their own risk, of course. I took one dose when not with cold to test, and I couldn't tell anything from taking it that was different.
This was a test. Would I take the vitamin/quer/iver cocktail with a more severe flu etc? I think it's worth a try with the caveat that nobody's biology is the same, personal results will vary, and that one must be very careful with a proper trial dose at the correct amount for body weight to see what your reaction might be. I could never vouch for it outside of a medical setting.
This is so much the shits that doctors have become part of the serious deception problem with medications and vaccines. I would try to get the legitimate items and use them under the care of a non contaminated doctor if possible rather than this kind of experimentation, which was my own only.
The main thing, as I said, is that it doesn't appear to have toxicity or side effects that I can tell in my own case only and with my own use only. Again, this represents a sample of one with no control and only subjective reporting. Anybody taking it would have to do so at their own risk, of course. I took one dose when not with cold to test, and I couldn't tell anything from taking it that was different.
This was a test. Would I take the vitamin/quer/iver cocktail with a more severe flu etc? I think it's worth a try with the caveat that nobody's biology is the same, personal results will vary, and that one must be very careful with a proper trial dose at the correct amount for body weight to see what your reaction might be. I could never vouch for it outside of a medical setting.
This is so much the shits that doctors have become part of the serious deception problem with medications and vaccines. I would try to get the legitimate items and use them under the care of a non contaminated doctor if possible rather than this kind of experimentation, which was my own only.
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Robert Sproul
2021 Aug 22, 10:32pm
Karloff says
It is infuriating. They force Americans, who they have purposefully terrified, to buy their medicine AT THE FEED STORE!
And then mock them for doing it.
the government causes dangerous situations by criminalizing safer ones.
It is infuriating. They force Americans, who they have purposefully terrified, to buy their medicine AT THE FEED STORE!
And then mock them for doing it.
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Patrick
2021 Aug 22, 11:30pm
So:
1. Doctors are prohibited from prescribing Ivermectin to treat Fauci Flu, though all evidence shows it works well.
2. The FDA mocks people, saying Ivermectin is for horses and cows (though it was developed for use in people).
3. The NIH actually has an ongoing clinical trial of Ivermectin at the same time that the FDA is mocking people for using it.
Could government credibility get any lower?
Patrick
2021 Aug 22, 11:30pm
So:
1. Doctors are prohibited from prescribing Ivermectin to treat Fauci Flu, though all evidence shows it works well.
2. The FDA mocks people, saying Ivermectin is for horses and cows (though it was developed for use in people).
3. The NIH actually has an ongoing clinical trial of Ivermectin at the same time that the FDA is mocking people for using it.
Could government credibility get any lower?
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Rin
2021 Aug 23, 4:57pm
Rin
2021 Aug 23, 4:57pm
Ceffer says
Here's the thing, on the Quercetin Phytosome side (read: Not Quercetin DiHydrate, which isn't very bioavailable) you can ramp up your uptake between 250 mg to 3000 mg w/o toxic side effects. Sure, your GI tract may tell you to stop at a certain amount but that's just time in the toilet, not a life threatening situation.
Plus, you can also ramp up your Allisure Allicin, from 100 mg to 2000 mg per day, w/o toxic reactions. The only thing which will happen is that that virus will die.
Ivermectin/Quercetin
Here's the thing, on the Quercetin Phytosome side (read: Not Quercetin DiHydrate, which isn't very bioavailable) you can ramp up your uptake between 250 mg to 3000 mg w/o toxic side effects. Sure, your GI tract may tell you to stop at a certain amount but that's just time in the toilet, not a life threatening situation.
Plus, you can also ramp up your Allisure Allicin, from 100 mg to 2000 mg per day, w/o toxic reactions. The only thing which will happen is that that virus will die.
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AmericanKulak
2021 Aug 23, 7:03pm
AmericanKulak
2021 Aug 23, 7:03pm
If we're not horses or cows, we're also not mice. I guess animal testing on mammals for drug safety/efficacy is no longer a thing. Gone the way of Herd Immunity, apparently.
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GNL
2021 Aug 23, 9:42pm
GNL
2021 Aug 23, 9:42pm
Rin says
So, if I feel Covid coming, I should take Quercetin and Allisure/Allicin el pronto and lots of it?
Ceffer saysIvermectin/Quercetin
Here's the thing, on the Quercetin Phytosome side (read: Not Quercetin DiHydrate, which isn't very bioavailable) you can ramp up your uptake between 250 mg to 3000 mg w/o toxic side effects. Sure, your GI tract may tell you to stop at a certain amount but that's just time in the toilet, not a life threatening situation.
Plus, you can also ramp up your Allisure Allicin, from 100 mg to 2000 mg per day, w/o toxic reactions. The only thing which will happen is that that virus will die.
So, if I feel Covid coming, I should take Quercetin and Allisure/Allicin el pronto and lots of it?
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mell
2021 Aug 24, 8:28am
WineHorror1 says
You may need to take an an antiviral with the quercetin, such as zinc. Garlic is always good as well but quercetin goes with zinc or hcq. If you confirm covid then Ivermectin or fluvoxamine or hcq may be indicated according to the American Journal of Therapeutics. Always do your own research though and confirm with multiple trusted sources.
Rin saysCeffer saysIvermectin/Quercetin
Here's the thing, on the Quercetin Phytosome side (read: Not Quercetin DiHydrate, which isn't very bioavailable) you can ramp up your uptake between 250 mg to 3000 mg w/o toxic side effects. Sure, your GI tract may tell you to stop at a certain amount but that's just time in the toilet, not a life threatening situation.
Plus, you can also ramp up your Allisure Allicin, from 100 mg to 2000 mg per day, w/o toxic reactions. The only thing which will happen is that that virus will die.
So, if I feel Covid coming, I should take Quercetin and Allisure/Allicin el pronto and lots of it?
You may need to take an an antiviral with the quercetin, such as zinc. Garlic is always good as well but quercetin goes with zinc or hcq. If you confirm covid then Ivermectin or fluvoxamine or hcq may be indicated according to the American Journal of Therapeutics. Always do your own research though and confirm with multiple trusted sources.
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zzyzzx
2021 Aug 24, 10:20am
zzyzzx
2021 Aug 24, 10:20am
https://www.chewy.com/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-apple/dp/261109
$4.99 - Temporarily Out of Stock
https://www.chewy.com/bimeda-bimectin-paste-187-horse/dp/269177
Several versions of this all out of stock at Chewy and some out of stock at 800PetMeds.
$4.99 - Temporarily Out of Stock
https://www.chewy.com/bimeda-bimectin-paste-187-horse/dp/269177
Several versions of this all out of stock at Chewy and some out of stock at 800PetMeds.
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Rin
2021 Aug 24, 3:54pm
Rin
2021 Aug 24, 3:54pm
WineHorror1 says
Yes, even if it's not Covid but the ordinary 'sniffles' or scratchy throat which leads to a cold. Realize, you can't O.D. on this stuff because the GI tract will remind you by sending you to the toilet.
mell says
Most ppl have never had Allisure Allicin. It's significantly more potent than your Vitamin Store's mashed up garlic pill. When I ramp up my Allisure from a maintenance dose of 100 mg to 1000 mg, I can't get sick, period.
And as for Quercetin Phytosome, when I had my guinea pigs ramp up from 250 mg per day to 1000 mg, most have had their allergies disappear completely. All of them have been PCR negative, as many need to get test regularly for their jobs. And yes, all of them supplement Zinc.
So, if I feel Covid coming, I should take Quercetin and Allisure/Allicin el pronto and lots of it?
Yes, even if it's not Covid but the ordinary 'sniffles' or scratchy throat which leads to a cold. Realize, you can't O.D. on this stuff because the GI tract will remind you by sending you to the toilet.
mell says
You may need to take an an antiviral with the quercetin, such as zinc. Garlic is always good as well but quercetin goes with zinc or hcq.
Most ppl have never had Allisure Allicin. It's significantly more potent than your Vitamin Store's mashed up garlic pill. When I ramp up my Allisure from a maintenance dose of 100 mg to 1000 mg, I can't get sick, period.
And as for Quercetin Phytosome, when I had my guinea pigs ramp up from 250 mg per day to 1000 mg, most have had their allergies disappear completely. All of them have been PCR negative, as many need to get test regularly for their jobs. And yes, all of them supplement Zinc.
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Rin
2021 Aug 25, 2:14pm
Rin
2021 Aug 25, 2:14pm
WineHorror1 says
See this ...
https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here
I should take Quercetin
See this ...
https://patrick.net/post/1340407/2021-08-01-i-guess-better-late-than-never-but-here
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Patrick
2021 Aug 27, 10:30am
Patrick
2021 Aug 27, 10:30am
On the coordinated media campaign to disparage Ivermectin to protect the profits of Pfizer et al at the expense of public health and US tax money:
https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1429515761815474177#m
https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1429515761815474177#m
Today in "rabbit holes nobody should ever jump into" we will attempt to answer the eternal question of whether a rolling stone truly gathers no moss.
Actually, we'll read through this article and try to find: how does it feel... to be on your own...
rollingstone.com/politics/po…
The FDA Is Begging You Not to Take Horse Dewormer for Covid-19
Ivermectin, a livestock medication, is causing a spike in poison control calls in Mississippi as people take it to treat or prevent Covid-19
rollingstone.com
I'm listening to this on repeat, hoping to keep my mood above a certain minimum, play it if you want to follow along: invidious.snopyta.org/IwOfCgkyEj0
Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone (Audio)
“Like A Rolling Stone" by Bob DylanListen to Bob Dylan: https://bobdylan.lnk.to/listenYDSubscribe to the Bob Dylan YouTube channel: https://bobdylan.lnk.to/_...
youtube.com
How it started: How it's going:
Well, that's an awkward start. Are Fox news hosts really telling people to take the animal preparation of ivermectin? That would be unconscionable. They could suggest ivermectin for humans, you know, the kind that has had billions of doses administered?
From the outset, we're treated to a puzzling statement. Given that ivermectin is in the WHO list of essential medicines (for humans), either RS didn't fact check this, or they're calling half the world's population livestock. Hmmm..
I know what you're thinking. You're sophisticated. You read David Fuller's piece on Aero where he says the problem of legacy media is that they fact check too much.
Calling Africans livestock is the interpretation we'll go with then. Weird flex, but OK.
areomagazine.com/2021/08/12/…
So, let's see. 85% calls had mild symptoms, one person was asked to seek further help. So one person is 15%? Are we talking about 7 calls total? @chrismartenson seems to think so.
Chris Martenson
@chrismartenson
Aug 21
Sounds bad, but let's unpack the situation.
First, they only used percentages. But how many people are we talking about?
If 85% of "callers" had mild symptoms but one was sent for eval, then we're talking either 6 or 7 people total. Let's call it 7...
Show this thread
Still. That one person seems like they got themselves in trouble huh? Lucky for you my snarky tweets are on top of this. This story was seen yesterday on The Hill (to die on). Short summary: nobody was hospitalized. Who knows what "further help" means.
Aug 21
Good thing no ivermectin in aquarium cleaners.
As we head lower down the article, things start clearing up. It's a matter of dosing, you see. Ivermectin does get used in humans, but in different doses. Well, that's awkward.
Ah, we're back on track. The obvious risks of humans ingesting ivermectin? Say it ain't so. Maddow is on the case.
OK, but maybe ivermectin is the sort of thing given in extreme circumstances. Something for the desperate cases.
Oh...
Wait, did you say FDA approved?
researchgate.net/publication…
What about the rest of the world though?
Et tu, Nature?
Maybe we should send @Maddow to Brazil, I'm sure @ggreenwald would love to show her around. Maybe they can pick up some toxic substances at the local convenience store.
Mauricio Rodriguez
@ColombianRoast
Bought it OTC here in São Paulo, Brazil. Around US$5 if I remember correctly.
At this point we have RS quoting Maddow quoting Fox news. If I have my count right, this must be 3x the fact checking. Still, though, I'm feeling a bit burnt, are we sure this was actually said? Specifically the horse deworming kind? Maybe I'll wait for attribution on that.
Especially with the zero new patients overwhelming the hospitals, the situation sounds extreme. Are we sending the national guard? Won't somebody think of the horses?
In seriousness though, if you're looking for medical misinformation, this is it. The equivocation being played here is grotesque. People on Fox are discussing a drug that the FDA has approved, and physicians are perfectly allowed to prescribe "off label" if they choose to.
Why might they choose to? Well, there's a boatload of studies. Maybe imperfect, definitely more needed. This website keeps track, though more research is needed, we have signal: ivmmeta.com/
Make what you will of the aggregation, the studies are there for all to see.
Now, many critics will say that some meta-analyses have failed to find any effect.
What they won't tell you is that what that means is that those meta-analyses have in fact failed. At their stated purpose of figuring out what's going on. Others haven't. Maybe look at those?
Some doctors definitely do. And they prescribe the medication. What happens next? Well, some report that pharmacies are refusing to fill those prescriptions. Yes, doctors prescriptions.
Adam Meyer
@meyer2478
Jul 31
@MichaelBerrySho @kroger is refusing to fill a prescription for Ivermectin OR transfer the prescription to another pharmacy that will. Safe to say I’m done spending my money there. Others should know too.
Michael Krieger
@LibertyBlitz
Aug 20
Pharmacies in our area are refusing to fill prescriptions of ivermectin. Presented with a prescription they are simply refusing. @Walgreens was the first and now others are following along.
It’s getting nutty out there.
Show this thread
Kim Goldberg
@KimPigSquash
24 Dec 2020
Replying to @demartini777 @maggieoutabout @Covid19Critical
For sure. I have horse paste as a back-up in case pharmacy unwilling to fill the prescription I now have for #ivermectin. Some reports of that happening in US - pharmacists refusing to fill a script for it for off-label #covid19 use.
So I'm sure Maddow and Rolling stone are running a campaign to stop this abusive practice of pharmacies that may drive people to extreme measures in order to follow their doctors' advice? I must have missed the link to the petition.
Or is perhaps what we're seeing a campaign against the legitimate form of ivermectin, making the human form of the substance hard to come by, and then blaming people who go for perhaps inadvisable alternatives? Has anything like this happened before? Yes. slate.com/technology/2010/02…
The little-told story of how the U.S. government poisoned alcohol during Prohibition.
It was Christmas Eve 1926, the streets aglitter with snow and lights, when the man afraid of Santa Claus stumbled into the emergency room at New York...
slate.com
Say what you will about ivermectin. I've heard from it's most hardcore critics that they believe there is likely some effect on COVID. (for instance Eric Topol, on Sam Harris' podcast). If it's safe, and it may have some effect, what's the harm in trying when infected?
Are we suffering from an advanced case of scientism? Will we literally deny people sth that may help, because we have no final evidence to convince everyone? Are we going to wait until the large-scale RCT, the kind that costs 10 figures, is run for a generic? And by whom?
The most likely explanation is that any alternative to vaccination must be eliminated in order to support vaccines in getting us herd immunity. Another of the many noble lies of this pandemic. slate.com/technology/2021/07…
The U.S. Government’s Noble Lies About COVID-19
When Fauci said in March 2020 that Americans didn’t need to wear masks, it was a noble lie—and a destructive one.
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This explains why we're not hearing messaging about exercise, vitamin D, HVAC/ventilation upgrades, or the many other things we know can help somewhat. This was probably decided many months ago. When herd immunity was on the table. Oops. cnbc.com/2021/08/12/herd-imm…
Here's why herd immunity from Covid is 'mythical' with the delta variant
Achieving herd immunity with Covid vaccines when the highly infectious delta variant is spreading is likely to be impossible, leading experts say.
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And now we must clean this mess up somehow. Boosters-as-a-service is seriously not sustainable. A new balance must be found, allowing government room to back off while saving face. If you want to read a lot more on this, this thread has the details:
Aug 19
I want to try something different: A 🧵on a 32-minute segment by @RWMaloneMD speaking to Jason from the Intellectual People Podcast.
It's all worth listening to, but this segment stopped me in my tracks, and pulls together much of what's going on. invidious.snopyta.org/nYkUePQMfkE?t=6785
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The music didn't really help my mood, turns out. Or perhaps it was because autoplay moved on to this: invidious.snopyta.org/YR5ApYxkU-U
Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (HQ)
HIT SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE CLASSIC VIDEOSPink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall Lifted from "Pink Floyd The Wall" film, this video is actually comprised of two s...
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Verdict: well, this stone has stopped rolling a long time ago, though an RCT is in the works to ascertain whether the stopping caused the moss or the other way around.
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'Stop it': FDA warns people not to take veterinary drugs to treat Covid-19
Nicole Acevedo
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is urging people to stop taking veterinary drugs to treat or prevent Covid-19 after receiving multiple reports of patients who have been hospitalized after "self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses," according to the federal agency.
"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it," the FDA tweeted from its official account on Saturday, alongside a consumer update detailing why the drug can be unsafe for humans.
Ivermectin, which is not an anti-viral drug, is generally used to treat or prevent parasites in animals.
"These animal drugs are often highly concentrated because they are used for large animals like horses and cows, which can weigh a lot more than" a human, the FDA update reads. "Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans."
Patients who overdose with ivermectin can experience nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, low blood pressure, allergic reactions, dizziness, problems with balance, seizures, coma and even death, according to the FDA.
The agency clarified that the FDA-approved ivermectin tablets meant to treat people with certain conditions caused by parasitic worms as well as topical formulations used for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea are different from the drug used on animals. Ivermectin tablets and topical formulations for humans have "very specific doses" that are significantly smaller than the doses meant for animals.
Moreover, "many inactive ingredients found in animal products aren’t evaluated for use in people," the FDA warned. "In some cases, we don’t know how those inactive ingredients will affect how ivermectin is absorbed in the human body."
The FDA stressed that no form of the ivermectin drug has been approved by the agency for use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans.
"However, some initial research is underway," the agency said, adding that "taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too."
The agency said it was forced to issue a warning in the consumption of ivermectin following "a lot of misinformation" around the drug.
"You may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong," the FDA consumer update reads. "Meanwhile, effective ways to limit the spread of Covid-19 continue to be to wear your mask, stay at least 6 feet from others who don’t live with you, wash hands frequently, and avoid crowds."
The FDA has also granted emergency use authorizations for three Covid-19 vaccines to prevent Covid-19 infections.
Covid-19 has claimed the lives of more than 630,000 people in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic in early 2020. Since then, more than 37.6 million cases of Covid-19 infections have been reported nationwide, according to NBC News' tally.