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Afghan chaos undercuts Biden's promise of competence


               
2021 Aug 18, 2:48pm   179,580 views  1,317 comments

by RWSGFY   follow (4)  






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The shambolic unravelling of America's withdrawal from Afghanistan comes from a yet to be written textbook of "how to lose at everything". Warnings hadn't been heeded, intelligence was clearly totally inadequate, planning was lamentable, execution woeful.

Let's just focus in on one thing - although there are any number that are worthy of examination.
The withdrawal came during the "fighting season" - a phrase I have to say I have always found rather odd. But in Afghanistan there is a fighting season which starts in spring - and then in winter, when the country freezes over, there is a time when the Taliban go home to their tribal homelands. Did no-one think that it might have been better to have ordered the withdrawal for the dead of winter when Taliban forces weren't there, poised to fill the vacuum?

The end result might have been the same - a Taliban takeover - but it would have almost certainly led to a more orderly drawdown. Yet the Biden administration wanted an eye-catching date. They wanted the withdrawal completed by 11 September. Twenty years on from 9/11 - an artificial, self-imposed deadline.

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Biden's election campaign could be boiled down to three messages to distinguish himself from Donald Trump. First, he would be more empathetic. He would be more competent. And instead of "America First", it would be replaced by the mantra "America is back".
But in his address yesterday, there wasn't a whole lot of empathy towards the thousands of Afghans who've helped Americans these past 20 years. On competence, even his biggest cheerleaders would struggle to say the withdrawal of American troops has been anything other than shambolic.
And after the bewildering events of the past few days, how exactly is America back?

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But on the policy itself, Joe Biden is utterly defiant. He summoned up his inner Harry Truman and made clear in his speech that the buck stops with him. He was, however, happy to distribute blame in much the same way that a muck spreader disperses manure in all directions. The Afghan leadership weren't up to it, the Afghan armed forces had no fight in them; Donald Trump had negotiated a bad deal.

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A fascinating nugget from a briefing that's just been given by Joe Biden's National Security Adviser. Since the fall of Kabul, Jake Sullivan revealed, Biden hadn't spoken to another world leader. Wasn't that just a bit surprising, given that there were a lot of other nations - including Britain - who'd committed vast resources to Afghanistan?

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When the G7 gathered in Cornwall and the Nato nations met in Brussels the sense of relief was palpable among the prime ministers and presidents that a more outward looking American president was in charge. But given what has unfolded - how America has been humiliated, how Joe Biden embarked on a policy he was cautioned against by these leaders - there is now a good deal more wariness.
And who will feel they have gained most from America's departure - apart from the Taliban, of course? Why, three countries near Afghanistan - Russia, Iran and China. I'm not sure that is what Joe Biden had in mind when he said after his inauguration that "America is back".



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58252174?source=patrick.net

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1314   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 22, 6:23pm  

Keeping the Bagram airbase was definitely NOT in the Donnie's original "deal" with the Taliban, so he's either lying, hallucinating or having a senior moment.
1315   WookieMan   2025 Sep 22, 7:17pm  

RWSGFY says

Keeping the Bagram airbase was definitely NOT in the Donnie's original "deal" with the Taliban, so he's either lying, hallucinating or having a senior moment.

Look at it on a map. It's the most logical position on a map for Iran, India and China. Powerful presence in the region. Don't like it, but also don't think it's a bad strategy. I ultimately think Iran is going to be legit invaded and regime change with the Israeli's. Western flank and Eastern flank. I think Trump saw how weak Iran was.

I personally don't want wars, but if I had a choice I'd be POTUS. Strategically I don't think it's bad if we got assets back in there if secure.
1316   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 22, 8:09pm  

WookieMan says

RWSGFY says


Keeping the Bagram airbase was definitely NOT in the Donnie's original "deal" with the Taliban, so he's either lying, hallucinating or having a senior moment.

Look at it on a map. It's the most logical position on a map for Iran, India and China. Powerful presence in the region. Don't like it, but also don't think it's a bad strategy. I ultimately think Iran is going to be legit invaded and regime change with the Israeli's. Western flank and Eastern flank. I think Trump saw how weak Iran was.

I personally don't want wars, but if I had a choice I'd be POTUS. Strategically I don't think it's bad if we got assets back in there if secure.


He gave it up back then against all the arguments for keeping it. He wanted a fast "deal" (sounds familiar?) and he got it, long-term strategic interests be damned. And Sleepy Joe executed the "deal" as written, lack of guarantees and safeguards and all.
1317   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 4, 2:32pm  

BREAKING: New Pentagon IG audit has found that the Biden administration allocated a whopping $14.2 billion to resettle more than 75,000 largely unvetted Afghan refugees inside U.S. towns and cities, where many have carried out or attempted to carry out terrorist attacks

https://x.com/paulsperry_/status/1996409751333486799?s=20

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