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Afghanistan could be Biden's Iran Hostage moment

By mbSFBay follow mbSFBay   2021 Aug 13, 2:38pm 1,073 views   143 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


Hi,

Looks like Biden may have dug his own political grave, the way everything is unraveling in Afghanistan.

Will he be a 1 and done prez because of this - me thinks so. What do you folks think ?

Also, if Trump ain't getting prosecuted, he is prolly coming back for a second inning.

Thoughts ?

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108   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 17, 8:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1426710333264179214


@BryanDeanWright
Aug 15
This may become the most infamous — and devastating — press conference ever held by an American President.
109   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 17, 8:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1426710333264179214


@BryanDeanWright
Aug 15
This may become the most infamous — and devastating — press conference ever held by an American President.


Really? All I've heard George W. Bush, Obama, Biden, every other establishment thug and every "reliable" news source is them just lie to me bold faced for 2 decades. They're all buffoons. I can dig up some BS press conferences from the Bush era if you like.



Face it, these assholes could be raping a baby on television and it would blow over in a week.

It's always this fake hopium bullshit while everything is burning around them. Always. Like the US "won" in Iraq. The Neocons are either brutally incompetent, or they purposely don't give a shit if the United States seriously collapses because of what they are doing.
110   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 17, 8:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1427421688141123584


@bennyjohnson
15h
This Afghanistan vet just blew up MSNBC’s entire Biden-simping Afghanistan narrative LIVE ON AIR.

What a glorious takedown. Watch this.
111   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 17, 11:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
@ceffer

Occam's razo says Biden is retarded.

Occam's Razor is always a good starting point, but it's reductio ad absurdum in today's fuckaciousness.

It would tell me the MSM are well meaning, ethical people dispensing what they thought was the best version of the truth. It would say Fauci is a kindly old doctor only interested in the welfare of the population. It would say the near lockstep shutdown of human rights across the previously free Western world is a mere coincidence. It would say that we had free and fair elections, and that any 'mistakes' or misfires were non-determinitive, anyway. It would tell me that Washington DC couldn't possibly harbor anything but sincere, hard working civil servants.

Occam's Razor is not very good at explaining the machinations of evil because it's blind to evolved competitive thought processes in populations, psychopathy, counter evolved intra species predation etc.
112   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 17, 12:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Occam's Razor is not very good at explaining the machinations of evil because it's blind to evolved competitive thought processes in populations, psychopathy, counter evolved intra species predation etc.


You have hit a pet peeve of mine.

Occam's Razor is often misunderstood and said to mean "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one". That's not what it really says. It says "the explanation with the least number of assumptions is likely to be the correct explanation" - and it stands to reason that an explanation with NO assumptions MUST be correct.
115   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 17, 2:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
https://www.rt.com/usa/532197-us-saved-dogs-over-afghan/


Look, not that I understand the situation over there, but if China marched into this nation, and decided to "fix" this country by putting us in 20 years of war and at the end of the it, China withdrew, how would I view people who worked with the Chinese during that time? You know how I think the Chinese invaders would think of them?

Collaborators, traitors.

What was the goddamned mission of Afghanistan? I don't think the collaborators know. The Taleban is NOT the sort of government or system I'd want to live under (frankly, not too happy with the system I live under but if government employees follow the laws - it would be pretty decent), but since when has the US gone anywhere (Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia) and made it BETTER?

Yeah, save the dogs. It least they have loyalty.
116   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 17, 2:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
https://www.rt.com/usa/532197-us-saved-dogs-over-afghan/


Good. We gave them shitload of weaponry. Go and fight your fucking enemies. Wage a guerilla war if necessary. Taliban did. As Mujahiddin did before them.
117   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 17, 2:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

richwicks says
Occam's Razor is often misunderstood and said to mean "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one". That's not what it really says. It says "the explanation with the least number of assumptions is likely to be the correct explanation" - and it stands to reason that an explanation with NO assumptions MUST be correct.

I think that Occam's Razor came back in vogue to offset the foolishness of 'expertise' i.e. pundits justifying their own existence by creating convoluted scenarios that did not reflect any meaningful probability or reasonable outcome. There is an unfortunate tendency for 'experts' to show off to the point of obfuscating bullshit that they are 'necessary' by positing strings of fake syllogistic reasoning, each segment of which is a demonstration of their genius rather than a reflection of reality. Translation: self preening bullshit artists will complicate things to an unnecessary extent.

However, there is also the tracing of motive and opportunity, which OcRa isn't that good at. I don't think the quantum computers are operating on the premise of OcRa, more on chaos theory and variable, changing, multifactorial circumstances.
118   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 17, 2:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
However, there is also the tracing of motive and opportunity, which OcRa isn't that good at. I don't think the quantum computers are operating on the premise of OcRa, more on chaos theory and variable, changing, multifactorial circumstances.


AFAIK, and that's not far at all my extremely limited understanding of quantum computers is forcing an electron to follow a path to a solution, which one one solution will solve the problem while one or several electrons are superimposed upon one another before the wave function collapses.

QM is just too fucking weird and the only way to understand it, is just mathematically.

I'm doubtful quantum computers are going anywhere really. They've been hyped forever, but they have to be at like -270C or something, and they are like 4 qubits. I don't have access to any of them, but I've never heard of anything groundbreaking down with them and I think it's a bit like Gallium Arsenide - "it's the future and always will be!" but frankly, it's so far outside of my knowledge I don't know. I have been hearing about quantum computers for over 20 years now, and there doesn't seem to have been any applications during that time. If there has been, it's all classified and secret.
120   mbSFBay   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 7:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Looks like media and the press can see the writing on the wall for Biden. He is now getting bad press in left, right and center leaning circles.
121   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 7:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fucking diversity hire and fucking trans ass-licker flatly admit they have no capability to extract American citizens who can't make it to the airport by themselves:

https://youtu.be/eqSCKI1vtig
122   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 19, 10:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Taliban 'carrying out highly organised manhunt'
The Taliban are carrying out a highly-organised door-to-door hunt for people on their wanted list, says the head of the group providing intelligence to the UN.

"What we have seen is that the Taliban, in advance of moving into all major cities in Afghanistan, not just Kabul, is that they have a more advanced intelligence system," Christian Nellemann, of the Norwegian Centre for Global Analyses, told the BBC.

"They have lists of individuals and even within the very first hours of moving into Kabul they began a search of former government employees - especially in intelligence services and the special forces units."

He said that, not only could this lead to mass executions, but also a "mass revealing of our methods and the intelligence networks that the West has provided. So this could undermine severely a number of our Western intelligence services."

As we reported earlier, the Norwegian Centre for Global Analyses’ report to the UN also said the Taliban are recruiting new informer networks to collaborate with their regime.


-- BBC
123   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 10:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-wishes-there-was-something-the-president-could-have-done-to-prevent-this-tragedy

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan - and called no take-backs - any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing - withdrew the military before ensuring U.S. citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied.
124   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Aug 19, 10:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Babylon Bee has jumped the shark. They are not creative enough to think of as hilarious answer as the real one Biden gave when asked about the whole AFG covfefe: "C'mon, man, that was 4-5 days ago!".
125   mbSFBay   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 19, 10:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-wishes-there-was-something-the-president-could-have-done-to-prevent-this-tragedy

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan - and called no take-backs - any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing - withdrew the military before ensuring U.S. citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of...


Absolute BS. He is the commander in chief, he had ample time to reverse decisions taken by prior administration.

Purely based on his inability to acknowledge his responsibility, he is unfit to lead.
126   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 12:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/18/afghanistan-united-arab-emirates-ashraf-ghani-taliban/

Ousted Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has resurfaced in the United Arab Emirates (U.A.E.) after abandoning his post in the face of the Taliban’s advance to Kabul.

The U.A.E. foreign ministry confirmed Wednesday that Ghani was being welcomed into the country on humanitarian grounds. Ghani initially fled across the Afghan border into Tajikistan with a handful of close advisors as the Taliban encircled Kabul, eventually capturing the capital city.

New: Afghan ambassador in Tajikistan says President Ashraf Ghani escaped with $169m worth of cash in bags before Kabul fell to the Taliban, BBC reports.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 18, 2021

Ghani is alleged to have stolen $169 million in U.S. currency when he departed Kabul. The Afghan Embassy in Tajikistan requested Wednesday that Interpol arrest Ghani for the theft.

Ashraf Ghani fled Afghanistan with four cars and a helicopter full of cash and had to leave some money behind as it would not all fit in, Russia’s embassy in Kabul reportedly said on Monday. pic.twitter.com/myngIoToBi

— 1TVNewsAF (@1TVNewsAF) August 16, 2021
127   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 19, 12:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1427823288206729222

Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield says U.S. expressed "in no uncertain terms" at the United Nations through "a very strongly worded press statement" from the Security Council that "we expect the Taliban to respect women's rights" and "to be respectful of humanitarian law."


OK, that will teach them. A strongly worded press statement!
128   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 12:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1427823288206729222

Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield says U.S. expressed "in no uncertain terms" at the United Nations through "a very strongly worded press statement" from the Security Council that "we expect the Taliban to respect women's rights" and "to be respectful of humanitarian law."


OK, that will teach them. A strongly worded press statement!


If they don't, we ought to declare war on them! They are just a bunch of goat herders, I mean, how long would the war last? A MONTH maybe?
129   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 19, 12:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Ghani is alleged to have stolen $169 million in U.S. currency when he departed Kabul. The Afghan Embassy in Tajikistan requested Wednesday that Interpol arrest Ghani for the theft.

Ashraf Ghani fled Afghanistan with four cars and a helicopter full of cash and had to leave some money behind as it would not all fit in, Russia’s embassy in Kabul reportedly said on Monday. pic.twitter.com/myngIoToBi


He didn't steal that money. It was bribe money from the US.

Why do you think the Taliban so easily retook Afghanistan? It's because the US puppet government was totally corrupt. The majority of Afghanis were happy to see it leave.

There will come a point where our government will fall apart just as easily and I expect I will live to see that day.

Nothing is going to happen to Ghani.
130   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 20, 10:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://theintercept.com/2021/08/20/mike-waltz-afghanistan/


CONGRESSMAN SEEKING TO RELAUNCH AFGHAN WAR MADE MILLIONS IN DEFENSE CONTRACTING
Florida Republican Michael Waltz made up to $25 million from the sale of Metis Solutions, a defense contractor with a spotty record training Afghan security forces.
Lee Fang
August 20 2021, 7:19 a.m.

FEW LAWMAKERS are as outspoken about the end of the war in Afghanistan as Michael Waltz, a Republican from Florida’s 6th Congressional District.

In recent weeks, Waltz has called on President Joe Biden to “reverse course,” relaunch military operations in the region, and “crush the Taliban offensive by committing American air power” supported by “special forces.” The Florida congressman has warned darkly of an “Al-Qaeda 3.0” and stated that no negotiations should take place with the Taliban “until the situation is stabilized militarily.”

Leading this push, in the pages of newspapers, over talk radio, and on cable television, Waltz couches his advocacy in his identity and experience. Not only is he a sitting memer of Congress, but he is a former Green Beret, a former aide to Dick Cheney, and “a father … sickened by what’s to come for the Afghan women and girls that are being mercilessly abused by the Taliban and sold into sex slavery,” as he wrote in opinion column published last week in Fox News.

There’s one crucial part of Waltz’s experience he tends to leave out: Before his successful run for Congress in 2018, he managed a lucrative defense contracting firm with offices in Afghanistan. The company was recently sold to Pacific Architects and Engineers, or PAE, one of the largest war contractors the U.S. has hired to train and mentor Afghan security forces. The deal personally enriched Waltz by up to $26 million, a figure made public by a filing disclosed this month.


Gosh, without that war, how will he make a living?
131   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 20, 11:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Taliban make a good point. They are identical in their practices to Saudi Arabia.



132   komputodo   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 20, 11:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mbSFBay says
Will he be a 1 and done prez because of this - me thinks so. What do you folks think ?

He will pay the Taliban off quietly and the media will make him a hero for saving american lives.
133   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 20, 11:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/house-democrats-working-with-liz-cheney-restrict-trumps-planned-withdrawal-of-troops-from-afghanistan-and-germany/

House Democrats, Working With Liz Cheney, Restrict Trump’s Planned Withdrawal of Troops From Afghanistan and Germany
July 2020
134   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 21, 4:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO
Aug 20
Am I the only person laughing at the idea that Joe Biden pulled out of Afghanistan because he didn’t want any more American sons & daughters killed?

It’s Beijing-Biden.

Wake me up when the rest of the world realizes he just handed over Afghanistan’s lithium to China.


He's certainly corrupt enough to do it.
135   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 21, 4:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


@RealCandaceO
Aug 18
We are shifting from the military industrial complex to the pharmaceutical industrial complex.

Get ready for a never-ending, existential health crisis that will continually shift and cost taxpayers trillions.

Save this tweet. It will age well.


Maybe the withdrawal from Afghanistan is so that the corrupt elite can get their money from eternal "booster shots" instead of from wars.

Will probably kill a lot more people than the wars did.
136   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 21, 4:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


@RealCandaceO
Aug 16
Think about the fact that Americans are risking their lives landing aircraft in Kabul to evacuate American and Afghan civilians and by next month, those same men and women can be dishonorably discharged for refusing an experimental vaccine.

The Biden regime is DISGUSTING.
141   Blue   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 22, 5:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

As per NBC, Biden will allow not thousands but millions of Afghans to get into us. In a decade Taliban will have their branches in us.
142   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 23, 12:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

“In London ministers and their advisers watched with incredulity,” the Sunday Times reported. “One minister said the president ‘looked gaga’. An aide described the press conference as ‘completely mad’ and the president as ‘doolally’. Such thoughts are normally never whispered in Whitehall, let alone briefed.”

143   richwicks   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 23, 12:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I just checked up on The White House's youtube page:

https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse/videos

Just to see what the up and down vote ratios were, and sort of surprised they still have them turned on. In many, it's now 10:1.

I thought this phenomenon would die out months ago, but there are 10's of thousands of people that go to these videos, just to express their distaste, after nearly a year.

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