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The Destruction of Trust In The CDC and Public Health Establishment Is Now Complete


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2021 Aug 12, 12:36am   45,950 views  325 comments

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The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

As soon as politicians, media members and incompetent and terrified “experts” became ideologically committed to ineffective interventions, they could never end.

The CDC has been the most reliable and consistent contributor to destructive and functionally useless mask recommendations. They’ve used unconscionably bad, dangerously incompetent and misleading “studies,” along with hilariously useless “hairdresser” examples to “prove” mask efficacy. Finally though, after throwing out their own pre-pandemic planning documents to promote a policy with no demonstrable benefits, the CDC displayed confidence in the “safe and effective” vaccines and removed their useless mask guidelines just two and a half months ago.

And yet. It’s all happening. The CDC flip flopped again. Masks are back.

Many of us arguing against lockdowns and masks and other related and equally ineffective “mitigations” have been pointing out for months now that the CDC has been unbelievably bad at their literal one job. We’ve been pointing out that the CDC’s credibility has been irreparably damaged based on their demonstrable incompetence and ever changing messaging with unchanging certainty. But no one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen that the death blow to the CDC’s credibility would come from the CDC itself.

I guess it shouldn’t be as surprising as it is that they put the final nail in their own coffin, but somehow their devotion to pseudoscience never ceases to amaze.

Bringing back masks is the end. It has to be. They were unequivocal in their assertions that the available vaccines were remarkably effective at preventing infections and transmission, symptomatic illness, severe cases and ultimately deaths.

Yesterday’s announcement is completely incompatible with their previous statements and should be an inescapable disaster for the country’s trust in “public health” and what the CDC, Fauci and others laughably refer to as “science.”

So let’s go over this unfolding debacle!

April 1
INTELLIGENCER HEADLINE: “CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus”
Got that? No hemming and hawing, no uncertainty, no “don’t spread the virus as much,” it literally says that the vaccinated CAN NOT SPREAD THE VIRUS. CAN NOT. It’s not possible for them to spread it, that’s what the “data” says.

Here’s a direct quote from the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

They do not carry the virus and do not get sick. Focus on the “they do not carry the virus” part for a second. If vaccinated people can’t carry it, how can they spread it?

They can’t! That’s what the CDC says:

Walensky was referring to a new CDC study that suggests those fully inoculated with the vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer don’t transmit the virus.

So naturally,

“The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

They are the key tool. Masks used to be, of course, but now vaccines will end the pandemic. Let’s keep that in mind. ...

July 27
CNBC Headline: “CDC reverses indoor mask policy, saying fully vaccinated people and kids should wear them indoors”
There it is. The destruction of any remaining shreds of credibility the CDC and Fauci had left.

So what was the justification for this dramatic shift? The delta variant! The same variant that Fauci said the vaccines did “very well” against. ...




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163   GNL   2022 Aug 22, 5:03am  

Patrick says

Former Wall Street analyst Edward Dowd said yesterday (Aug 18) that a Society of Actuaries report just made public shows that a 20 percent uptick in excess deaths among working age people, which began with vaxx mandates in the fall of 2021, continued into the second quarter of 2022. Actuaries are the people who compile and analyze statistics for insurance companies.

I thought it was 40%.
165   Undoctored   2022 Aug 22, 4:34pm  

Patrick says


https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-meaning-of-incredible/

no more treating the unvaxxed differently than the vaxxed



I think that only applies to quarantine rules. Interestingly none of the CDC guidance ever recommended that any institution require vaccination for anything. So I don’t see how the new CDC guidance is going to lead to any school, museum, theater, or employer stopping their vax-based discrimination. If anyone knows of any such institution changing their policy to treat the unvaccinated absolutely equally as a result of this new guidance, let me know.
166   Ceffer   2022 Aug 22, 4:40pm  

"Let's see if we can rejuvenate whatever trust they still have in us to kill a few more. After all, Klaus has assured us that non-extradition estates await us next to Mengele's old South American ranch."
167   Ceffer   2022 Aug 22, 5:03pm  

"Democrat Megadonor Parts Ways With Party Over COVID Vaccine Data"
https://www.theepochtimes.com/democrat-megadonor-parts-ways-with-party-over-covid-vaccine-data_4674361.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink
"The megadonor, Steve Kirsch, says that he has called everyone that he’s had any relationship with in the Democratic Party, including six members of Congress, trying to get some answers about the COVID vaccine injuries but asserts that no one picked up his calls.

“I’m disappointed in the lack of goals that they had and now becoming extremely disappointed that I can’t get a return phone call,” Kirsch told The Epoch Times."

It won't be long before all the calls are forwarded to Uruguay and Argentina.
168   Undoctored   2022 Aug 22, 5:51pm  

Straight from the horse’s mouth:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2022/p0811-covid-guidance.html

“Recommending screening [sic] testing of asymptomatic people without known exposures will no longer be recommended in most community settings.”

So what does this mean for places that have had a “vax or test negative” rule? Are these places dropping the test and if so will they admit all or exclude all unvaccinated as a result?
169   Undoctored   2022 Aug 22, 6:08pm  

I’m sending the following query to offending institutions:

“The CDC no longer recommends screening the asymptomatic for COVID-19, and all their rules treat the vaccinated and unvaccinated the same. In light of this will you now be admitting in all visitors without them needing to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination or negative test for? If not, why not?”

I’m guessing they will all keep their policy precisely because the CDC is acknowledged by all to be irrelevant. The sword cuts both ways.
171   Onvacation   2022 Aug 29, 1:04pm  

Undoctored says

Interestingly none of the CDC guidance ever recommended that any institution require vaccination for anything.

Does this mean my friend who was fired for refusing the jab can sue her ex employer?
172   Undoctored   2022 Aug 29, 1:23pm  

@Onvacation she will have a good chance if she requested a religious accommodation and it was refused. See this case, where the settlement terms were drawn up even before the CDC’s August revision:

https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/629535956-northshore-to-pay-10m-to-settle-covid-vax-mandate-lawsuit-fired-workers-could-get-25k-and-their-jobs-back

But every institution with any kind of vaccination requirement is doing so without the blessing of the CDC. Seems like a clear cut violation of the ADA to me. The CDC has never determined that the medical category of “unvaccinated” poses a direct threat so no discrimination at all is allowed regardless of religion. So yeah, go ahead and sue. This should have been done long ago.
173   richwicks   2022 Aug 29, 1:53pm  

Undoctored says


@Onvacation she will have a good chance if she requested a religious accommodation and it was refused


For fucks sake, it's a valid excuse that "I believe the great invisible entity in the sky forbids this", but "this doesn't make any fucking sense to me, and you can't explain how it makes any sense - so fuck you" is not valid.

I swear to god, the whole purpose is to push society into insanity or to at least claim insanity.

There's religious exemptions, but not RATIONAL exemptions.

This is an untested serum for a disease which kills practically nobody, and if the serum actually works, the only people at risk, are the people that refused the serum. If, however, the untested serum doesn't work, it can harm or even kill the person that takes it.

This is logical, can't be refuted, it's entirely logical and consistent, but people have to appeal to a supposed believe in god.
174   GNL   2022 Aug 29, 2:46pm  

richwicks says

Undoctored says



@Onvacation she will have a good chance if she requested a religious accommodation and it was refused


For fucks sake, it's a valid excuse that "I believe the great invisible entity in the sky forbids this", but "this doesn't make any fucking sense to me, and you can't explain how it makes any sense - so fuck you" is not valid.

I swear to god, the whole purpose is to push society into insanity or to at least claim insanity.

There's religious exemptions, but not RATIONAL exemptions.

This is an untested serum for a disease which kills practically nobody, and if the serum actually works, the only people at risk, are the people that refused the serum. If, however, the untested serum doesn't work, it can harm or even kill the person that takes it.

This is logical, can't be refuted, it's entirely logical and consistent, but people h...

Of course your anger is justified. The 2 biggest ideals this country was founded on have been trampled over a fakedemic....Freedom and Religion.
175   Onvacation   2022 Aug 29, 2:53pm  

GNL says

Freedom and Religion.

Actually it's "liberty and justice". Many immigrated to America to get away from religion.
176   Onvacation   2022 Aug 29, 2:53pm  

And liberty and justice have been trampled on in America.
177   Undoctored   2022 Aug 29, 4:11pm  

One thing that defines a religion is what it says you should and should not put into your body. Most religions have their dietary and bodily purity laws. When CDC recommendations (they do recommend vaccines for individuals don’t get me wrong) and guidelines are enforced, we get the “establishment of religion” prohibited by the constitution. Don’t forget, religious freedom also means nonbelievers have the right to not participate in a religion. Claim your religious freedom from the Church of Deceptive Countermeasures today!
178   Patrick   2022 Aug 30, 10:48pm  

richwicks says


There's religious exemptions, but not RATIONAL exemptions.


This is true. You can't get a death jab exemption based on reason, only based on things you can't prove at all.
179   Undoctored   2022 Aug 31, 8:53pm  

But seriously. In theory at least you can rightfully file a religious accommodation claim without being religious, because “sincerely held moral beliefs” also count.

https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-and-answers-religious-discrimination-workplace


Religious beliefs include theistic beliefs (i.e. those that include a belief in God) as well as non-theistic “moral or ethical beliefs as to what is right and wrong which are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious views.”


Perhaps for example you think it is wrong to comply with an order that violates a basic human right?

In any case I agree the Propaganda masters are trying to spin this as a matter of scientific fact vs irrational belief, so they want to make you think you need to confess your irrationality to preserve your right to refuse medication. But it’s really a matter of irrational CDC dogma vs common sense.

The fact is, you can refuse to follow the CDC’s proclamations as a matter of religion, science, or sincerely held moral principle.
180   Patrick   2022 Aug 31, 9:04pm  

Undoctored says


But seriously. In theory at least you can rightfully file a religious accommodation claim without being religious, because “sincerely held moral beliefs” also count.


@Undoctored

In practice, 100% of “sincerely held moral beliefs” are denied.

Learned this from a religious exemption workshop I attended. The law is irrelevant because it is completely ignored by appointed officials and there is zero recourse. They have absolute power, and they are almost entirely Democrats.
181   Undoctored   2022 Sep 1, 9:15pm  

This just in:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2022/s0901-covid-19-booster.html


The following is attributable to Dr. Walensky:

“The updated COVID-19 boosters are formulated to better protect against the most recently circulating COVID-19 variant. They can help restore protection that has waned since previous vaccination and were designed to provide broader protection against newer variants. This recommendation followed a comprehensive scientific evaluation and robust scientific discussion. If you are eligible, there is no bad time to get your COVID-19 booster and I strongly encourage you to receive it.”


Wasn’t Dr Walensky recently quoted as saying the CDC had been a too “optimistic”? Has she learned her lesson? Well for one now there’s no actual claim of efficacy at all, not 95% not even 30% just some vague “help restore protection.” But there’s been a “robust” scientific discussion. Wait shouldn’t we ask our doctor if it’s right for us first? Oh, “there is no bad time” huh? You don’t know a thing about me but you “strongly urge” me to take it? I mean wow if they were recklessly optimistic before what’s this?
182   Ceffer   2022 Sep 1, 9:58pm  

A little longwinded. She should just say: "DIE, FUCKING USELESS EATER COCKROACHES, FUCKING DIE NOW!"
183   Onvacation   2022 Sep 1, 11:09pm  

Patrick says

In practice, 100% of “sincerely held moral beliefs” are denied.

What would Jesus do? Well, he did work with lepers, unvaccinated, without a mask.
184   richwicks   2022 Sep 1, 11:14pm  

Onvacation says


Patrick says


In practice, 100% of “sincerely held moral beliefs” are denied.

What would Jesus do? Well, he did work with lepers, unvaccinated, without a mask.



Well to be fair, if Jesus is what he supposedly was, he was pretty much immune.

Give me super powers and I'll freely work with lepers and homosexuals with monkeypox, and do it with no income with no fear of starvation. Probably would be a bad idea to give me this power, I'd make it illegal to kill spiders and roaches probably - after all, they are god's creatures too. I'd go crazy with super powers.
185   Onvacation   2022 Sep 1, 11:17pm  

richwicks says

Give me super powers and I'll freely work with lepers and homosexuals with monkeypox

I wouldn't

G'night everyone.
186   Patrick   2022 Sep 2, 2:41am  

richwicks says

I'd make it illegal to kill spiders


I had a kind of Buddhist phase about 20 years ago, and stopped killing spiders because it seemed like bad karma. I've continued that. We have clear plastic cups and postcards to capture them and toss them out a window.

But I continued to kill mosquitoes and have no regrets about that.
187   Patrick   2022 Sep 2, 8:57am  

https://www.blacklocks.ca/tips-on-rejecting-vax-claims/


Department of Transport lawyers coached airlines on how to reject Canadians’ requests for vaccine waivers on religious grounds, according to Access To Information memos. Even passengers with legitimate claims were to be challenged every time they switched flights, wrote staff: “These types of exemptions are anticipated to be granted very rarely.”


paywall
188   Patrick   2022 Sep 3, 1:37pm  

https://rumble.com/v1huu31-the-cdc.html


original link


The CDC has done all of this shit before, with the Swine Flu vaxx, for example.
189   Patrick   2022 Sep 3, 1:40pm  

Just to have the video cover image:

190   Patrick   2022 Sep 6, 9:37am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/cdc-warns-of-new-stealth-covid-variant-where-you-test-negative-and-get-no-symptoms


ATLANTA, GA — CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky held a press conference to warn the public about a deadly new "stealth" COVID-19 variant that causes negative test results and causes no symptoms.

"This deadly variant has bypassed our most sophisticated tests by ingeniously becoming harmless to the human body," said Director Walensky, "It is estimated that eight billion people have caught this variant. We must prevent it from spreading further by closing schools and locking up kindergarten children."

The CDC director's guidance to close schools and stem the tide of this "stealth" variant is backed by data that has been thoroughly and rigorously altered, proving that public school teachers are the most susceptible, testing negative a whopping 100% of the time and often succumbing to the worst symptom-free symptoms.

At publishing time, Pfizer had announced early development of a new, 103% effective vaccine, followed 3.8 seconds later by approval from the FDA.
191   Patrick   2022 Sep 6, 9:46am  



"In the same way"?

Not at all, ever.
192   Patrick   2022 Sep 7, 4:01pm  

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/a-mostly-subconscious-genocide


Vaccine injury is really really expensive. Vaccine injury in children roughly doubles educational costs and vaccine injury in all ages massively increases healthcare costs. That’s why it’s Pharma’s business model.

I naïvely thought (coming out of my Ph.D. program in 2019) that the costs of vaccine injury are so extraordinary, that politicians would be desperate to have a conversation about how to prevent these harms (give far fewer shots, it’s not complicated).

The California Democratic Party came up with a different idea — just kick the vaccine injured and their families out of school and out of the state. That’s what SB 277 (2015) and SB 276 (2019) did. In California today, there are no religious, philosophical, or medical exemptions to vaccination. If your kid brother died or was disabled from a shot you still have to get the full CDC schedule in order to attend school. If you were disabled by a shot, you are exempt from further doses of that one shot but no others. Any doctor who tries to write a medical exemption will lose his/her license. This goes against a century of best practices in medicine. ...

If these eugenic policies are allowed to stand, they will just grow and get worse (as vaccine injury comes to consume an ever-larger share of the economy and Dems respond with even weirder subconscious policies). Covid-19 shots must be removed from the market entirely. All mandate bills must be repealed. Pharma must be made liable for the harms caused by their products. Those are the minimum requirement necessary for us to return to being a civilized society.
198   Blue   2022 Sep 19, 4:03pm  

AmericanKulak says



Female leadership, no wonder why all of these countries messed up so much.

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