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You’re struggling to understand why some people are vaccine hesitant. The “let me help you”

By Patrick follow Patrick   2021 Aug 3, 9:46am 187 views   7 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


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You’re struggling to understand why some people are vaccine hesitant. The “let me help you” megathread:

Imagine you’re a normal person. The year is 2016. Rightly or wrongly, you believe most of what you see in the media.

You believe polls are broadly reflective of public opinion. You believe doctors and scientists are trustworthy and independent. You’re a decent, reasonable person who follows the rules and trusts authority.

Imagine your shock then, when Brexit, which you were assured won’t happen because it’s a fringe movement led by racists for racists, happens. The polls, which widely predicted it wouldn’t happen were completely wrong.

The experts and media pundits who told you it wouldn’t happen day after day are also wrong. “Oh well” you say, “these things happen”.

Imagine that soon after Donald Trump is running for President. You are told by your favourite media publications that he is going to lose.

Some experts say his opponent has a 99% chance of winning.

independent.co.uk/news/world…

Imagine waking up on the morning after the election to discover that pollsters, media experts and politicians you still trusted were wrong again.

The man who predicted 49 out of 50 states in 2012 has said who will win on Tuesday
The Princeton Election Consortium found Ms Clinton has a projected 312 electoral votes across the country and only 270 are needed to win

independent.co.uk

And now, the racist monster they told you would never get near the White House is the leader of the free world.d

“How did this happen?” you ask yourself? How could all the people in charge of informing me be so wrong? “It was the Russians,” they tell you.

“The Russians did Brexit and they got Trump elected too”.

Imagine that for the next 3.5 years you watch as the media and the political class run with the Russia collusion narrative. They tell you the how, when and where.

The dossiers, the whistle-blowers, the peeing prostitutes.
Imagine your desperation for things to make sense again. The Muller Report is coming and it will set your world straight.

Evidence of foreign meddling in the 2016 election and Brexit is coming to save your unsettled mind.
Imagine your shock then, when you discover that Brexit and Trump had little to do with foreign meddling. The screaming about Russians and Brexit dies down as well.

Imagine that bit by bit, you discover that events which the media and political class told you would not and could not happen not only happened, but happened without some sort of evil interference. Instead, millions of your fellow citizens voted for them.

Again, you ask “How could this happen?” and again the media has the answer: racism. “Your country is racist”, they tell you. If you’re white, this seems strange to you. Other than a handful of idiots, you’ve never met a racist.

If you’re an ethnic minority immigrant like me, this seems even stranger. Why would people in one of the most welcoming, tolerant countries in the world want to convince themselves their country is racist when it’s so obviously not?

But the evidence is right there on your TV screen. Imagine your horror as a gay black actor is assaulted by MAGA hat-wearing thugs who racially abuse him and put a noose around his neck. He cries while talking about it: invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=pXLx5OY2…

Jussie Smollett FULL Interview on alleged attack | ABC News Exclusive
"Empire" star breaks his silence in an exclusive interview with ABC News' Robin Roberts.READ MORE: https://abcn.ws/2GIT6w5'Empire' star Jussie Smollett share...

Imagine your outrage as you see news reports of a bunch of MAGA hat-wearing kids from a religious school contemptuously confront a native America elder. Reza Aslan tells you the kid has a “punchable face” and while you abhor violence, it’s hard to disagree.

Imagine that for days you watch coverage of these events, with expert after expert, pundit after pundit, sharing and fuelling your outrage about them. With every word, your belief that you are a good person and that your country is a good country wavers.

Imagine that soon after, however, the Jussie Smollett story turns out to be an attention-seeking hoax. Imagine that you quickly discover that the native American elder was the one who confronted the kids and not the other way around. washingtontimes.com/news/202…

Reza Aslan ‘likely’ to be sued over now-deleted ‘pun
After nearly a year, former CNN host Reza Aslan finally removed a tweet referring to Covington Catholic student Nicholas Sandmann's

washingtontimes.com

“If this is such a racist country,” you ask yourself… “why would they need to make up stories of racism?” As you ponder this, you remember that for years now, you’ve been expected to go along with other make-believe.

You’re expected to believe that whether you’re male or female is not as simple as you once thought. Whatever you learned about biology at school is wrong. You no longer know how many genders there are and it seems dangerous to try to find out.

Imagine reading that the experts at the American Psychological Association say that traditional masculinity is “pathological and harmful”. theatlantic.com/health/archi…

Psychology Has a New Approach to Building Healthier Men
A controversial set of guidelines aims to help men grapple with “traditional masculinity.”

theatlantic.com

Imagine that you still want to believe the media and their experts, but now that requires you to think your country is racist, men are bad and gender is a social construct, whatever that means.

It is at this point that a pandemic emerges on the other side of the world.

You are initially unconcerned, but as scenes emerge from Italy and other countries, it is clear that something big is happening.

You watch nervously as politicians give press conference after press conference, flanked by experts, to explain the situation.

The racist Donald Trump shuts down travel from China. In response, the mayor of Florence advises citizens to fight racism by “hugging a Chinese person”. in.news.yahoo.com/italy-laun…

Italy launched “hug a Chinese” campaign to fight coronavirus induced racism
Coronavirus induced racism against Asian looking people has been widely written and debated about. It has become one of the major cultural fallouts of the pandemic across the globe.

in.news.yahoo.com

Shortly after, Nancy Pelosi, a respected Democrat visits Chinatown in San Francisco to explain “there's no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.”

“Thank God there are some sensible non-racist people who aren’t overreacting,” you say to yourself.

nbcbayarea.com/news/local/na…

Imagine watching as Trump doubles down on his racism by claiming the virus may have come from a lab in Wuhan.

Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco's Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco’s Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there’s no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus...

nbcbayarea.com

“Nonsense,” you think to yourself as you wonder how best to protect yourself and your family from this deadly disease.

You consider getting masks – you’ve seen visitors from Asian countries wear them.

But the UK’s Chief Medical Officer tells you not to wear a mask and wash your hands instead.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho…

As lockdowns are introduced around the world, you diligently follow all the rules. You stay at home, only go out once and live off savings or government grants.

Don't wear face masks in response to coronavirus, says chief medical officer
Chris Whitty instead advises people to regularly wash their hands

independent.co.uk

You are proud to be doing your part.
Thanks to you and millions of your fellow citizens the first wave of the pandemic does not overwhelm the healthcare system. While thousands sadly die, you’ve helped to protect the NHS.

Imagine your confusion as the same people who have spent 3 months telling you masks don’t work and you shouldn’t wear them introduce mask mandates. We’re “following the science” they tell you. This makes little sense but a pandemic is no time for questions.

As you cautiously go to the supermarket, you notice that masks have made people far less likely to socially distance.

You remember reading somewhere that bicycle helmets work similarly: they give the wearer more confidence and the result is more accidents and injuries, not fewer.
“Silly people,” you say to yourself. “If only they would follow government advice”.

You turn on your TV to learn that shoppers at your local supermarket aren’t the only ones who have been ignoring the rules.
2   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2021 Aug 3, 12:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

For me it's really simple. I'm healthier than almost everyone I know, and have been for years. I believe in Bechamp's work, that sickness is activated by bad habits, not simply the existence of germs. I have lived this philosophy with my family, and seen remarkable results in my children when compared to others we know. And I'm a believe in primary trends.

So if a bunch of sick people are suddenly telling me they know more about health than I do, and a government who told me Epstein committed suicide is telling me to take the shot, and everything I know about health tells me it's a bad idea, I don't take it. Always follow the primary trend.
4   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Aug 3, 12:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NuttBoxer says
For me it's really simple. I'm healthier than almost everyone I know, and have been for years. I believe in Bechamp's work, that sickness is activated by bad habits, not simply the existence of germs. I have lived this philosophy with my family, and seen remarkable results in my children when compared to others we know. And I'm a believe in primary trends.

So if a bunch of sick people are suddenly telling me they know more about health than I do, and a government who told me Epstein committed suicide is telling me to take the shot, and everything I know about health tells me it's a bad idea, I don't take it. Always follow the primary trend.


And they can't even use their favorite "you'll spread and kill Nana" bullshit, because it's already established that they spread too and Nana is fucking vaxxed since fucking March anyway.
5   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 3, 1:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
And they can't even use their favorite "you'll spread and kill Nana" bullshit, because it's already established that they spread too and Nana is fucking vaxxed since fucking March anyway.


They don't even care about logical consistency anymore.

If the vaccine works, the vaccinated people aren't at risk - provided it works.

If the vaccine doesn't work, there's no point in being vaccinated.

So why would vaccinated people give a shit if you're vaccinated or not? Nobody can answer that.

My friend at Microsoft just informed me they are demanding that he show proof of vaccination or submit to weekly testing. He's upset. He also owns an apartment complex free and clear, BUT he has 2 children (toddler, and baby) and a demanding wife. To be honest, I don't know if I would even submit to testing - I wouldn't submit to something be jammed into my nose. If they want to stick a swab up my asshole, I'd submit to that first - sure, it would be humiliating, but it's humiliating to the person doing it as well.

I always insist on a feel up and pat down at the airport as well instead of that fucking radiation machine. "Here, you insist I walk into this fucking machine to fly, or you have to touch my junk? Feel my fucking junk then! There you go! Earn your minimum wage pay! Rub my junk, government whore!" If more people got over their hangups, this shit would end.
6   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Aug 3, 1:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
If the vaccine works, the vaccinated people aren't at risk - provided it works.

If the vaccine doesn't work, there's no point in being vaccinated.


There's a third option:

3. The "vaccine" not only doesn't work, it makes people more susceptible to Fauci Flu.
7   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Aug 3, 3:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
richwicks says
If the vaccine works, the vaccinated people aren't at risk - provided it works.

If the vaccine doesn't work, there's no point in being vaccinated.


There's a third option:

3. The "vaccine" not only doesn't work, it makes people more susceptible to Fauci Flu.


To suggest the vaccine is detrimental puts you in the tin foil hat crowd. People won't go there generally, although I comfortably sit there.

I only aim to get people to see a partial point of view of mine, not my entire point of view.

It's a logical impasse - either the vaccine works and unvaccinated people are only risking their own health, or it doesn't work and there's no point of the vaccination. It's implied that the reason I refuse the vaccination is because I believe it's possibly harmful - otherwise if I viewed it as a placebo, what's the point of not taking it given all the hassles presented if I don't?

I'll only imply that it's harmful, no point in stating it outright. Quite simply, I do not trust our government, and if this "vaccine" actually is deadly, let me be very clear, it's our absolute moral duty to hold the people driving and forcing people to take it to be held accountable, and maybe their children and grandchildren. The sterilization could be sufficient for their progeny, but the people themselves, I think something more severe, more severe than death. After all, we are all born with a death sentence.

In any case, we'll find out in a few years. If our population is decimated, well, we need to record the targets. We can't allow them to take over the planet.

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