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2021 Jul 30, 4:38pm   917 views  15 comments

by FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

I think some folks here on patnet are from Florida.

So we've been visiting Florida for a week now. Will be here 3 more days. What are nice red areas out here anyone would recommend to see, preferably near cities. I've already learned that Tampa is very blue in many parts, like CA light. Clearwater seems nice and clean, way too urban for our liking though. St. Peterburg is like SF (gay mecca). How is Jacksonville, anyone here know, planning to go there next.

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1   Booger   2021 Jul 30, 4:39pm  

Nassau, St John's, and maybe Polk counties.

Yes, I've been doing my homework.
2   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Jul 30, 4:42pm  

Booger says
Nassau, St John's, and maybe Polk counties.

Yes, I've been doing my homework.


Thank you Booger!
3   SumatraBosch   2021 Jul 30, 5:57pm  

Clearwater is filled with Scientologists.

Go to Bahia Honda and fuck wives on beach.
4   clambo   2021 Jul 31, 8:16am  

I have a recommendation but I just read you’re going to Jacksonville so I guess it’s not going to work for this trip.

I don’t think that Florida is so great except for a few places. I’m a tax refugee and I like the beach and diving, etc.

Edit:
Hint: Rich athletes live in the area which I like.
Another is Vero Beach, which has been called “The Hamptons of Florida”
5   Bd6r   2021 Jul 31, 8:20am  

clambo says
I don’t think that Florida is so great except for a few places.

Too hot and humid most of the year. Similar to SE Texas which has enjoyable climate only from late October to April.
6   Booger   2021 Jul 31, 8:26am  

clambo says
I don’t think that Florida is so great except for a few places. I’m a tax refugee and I like the beach and diving, etc.


Northern Florida is cheaper than southern Florida, and has less stupid liberals. It also has way less sink holes. North East Florida has the least hurricane issues as well. Also in some rare freak occurances, you can get a basement in Northern Florida. Tampa has a pretty good job market, but is overpriced and has terrible traffic. Tallahassee is too far from the beach (the nearby coast is swamps). Jacksonville is not a good place to look for a job. I am not sure what to think about Orlando; it might not be close enough to the beach for me. Right now is a terrible time to be buying a house in Florida, but that also seems to be the case everywhere.

Also, I might just find the beaches that I like the best and then look for housing. I'm accustomed to Atlantic City beaches, and therefore might like Daytona beach the best???

At least that is a good portion of my reasoning.
7   clambo   2021 Jul 31, 11:12am  

A feature called the Gulf Stream makes the ocean superior on the Atlantic side.
This is warm, clear ocean current which comes in contact with the continental USA in Palm Beach.
The Stream heads offshore as you travel north.
The Gulf side doesn't have the Gulf Stream.
Since I like swimming, diving, and boating, I prefer this side to anywhere on the Gulf side.
8   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jul 31, 11:18am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
How is Jacksonville, anyone here know, planning to go there next.


That's where my family is from. My Grandfather sold Duval country much of the land for the Jax Zoo, and the Airport way way back in the day. That's how established my family was at one time there.
My BIL is lamenting that Jax is turning into a Liberal shithole, near the down town area. You got to get to the outskirt rural areas.
Basically all of Florida rural areas are full 100% dedicated Red Conservatives. The Commiecrats rule the downtown districts in every town that has a sizable population.
Even in South Florida when you drive out west to the Agriculture areas away from the metro area. It's full of conservatives as well.
9   Booger   2021 Jul 31, 12:11pm  

Tenpoundbass says
My BIL is lamenting that Jax is turning into a Liberal shithole, near the down town area. You got to get to the outskirt rural areas.


That's why I prefer to avoid Duval county completely. Presumably they will eventually get a DA that refuses to prosecute and it will turn into a shithole as well.
10   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 25, 6:34am  

How close is too close to the coast WRT hurricanes and shit? The GF owns a 1/4 acre lot (undeveloped, but along a road and with nearby utilities and stuff) near Palm Coast just west of I-95 somewhere around the 20-25 ft above seal level. I haven't measured the distance to the nearest spot on the coast, but it's definitely less than 10 miles. Probably 5-10 miles.

Having written that, we would prefer a 1/2 acre. Lot was bought in the 80's by her parents cheap.
11   Ceffer   2021 Aug 25, 8:06am  

I was born in Jacksonville, LOL, but don't know anything about it (military brat, moved on).
12   WookieMan   2021 Aug 25, 8:09am  

I'd go panhandle personally. Yes, hurricanes can ramp up in the gulf and smash you, but inland 5-10 miles you can get cheap housing and not worry about storm surge. My mom just sold one of her houses in Milton on Garcon point. Canal front for $235k. Could get a boat that drafts 4' in there at any tide level and get out in Pensacola Bay or the Gulf if you got something that could handles that. Could flood during a hurricane, but it's a ranch with 3 beds and 2.1 baths. Pretty cheap in my world.

Wind is something you can't predict though, as even being inland it can rip your roof off or blow a tree into your house. But the best sand itself I've ever encountered is from about Orange Beach, AL to Panama City Beach, FL. Navarre Beach, FL and the National Seashore to the West is the best sand ever IMHO.

Water clarity is an issue as Clambo mentions, but if you get the right wind and weather, the water is damn near close to the Caribbean blue/emerald color. Very conservative as well if neighbors and politics are an issue. Tons of redneck millionaires from GA, AL and MS frequent the area since it's a 3-5 hour drive to the beach. They own most of the vacation rentals.

I know nothing of the Atlantic side besides cruising out of Miami and going to the Keys a couple times. Been to Anna Maria Island and Treasure Island on the gulf side. Going Sanibel Island area end of September. I'm younger and just don't like the vibe the further south you go. Lots of geezers and was kind of lame. Get the side eye bringing kids with as well.
13   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 25, 8:16am  

Ceffer says
I was born in Jacksonville, LOL, but don't know anything about it (military brat, moved on).


Can you recommend areas closer to Jacksonville? I'm considering St Johns and St Augustine area as well.
14   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 25, 8:16am  

WookieMan says
but inland 5-10 miles you can get cheap housing and not worry about storm surge.


How far in to be safe from storm surges?
15   WookieMan   2021 Aug 25, 8:26am  

zzyzzx says
WookieMan says
but inland 5-10 miles you can get cheap housing and not worry about storm surge.


How far in to be safe from storm surges?

My mom hasn't had her place flood. Since she's owned the places I don't think there's been much bigger than a Cat 3 though. Don't want to dox myself too much, but her two homes are on one of the inland waterways within that circle in the image. The others are maybe a mile inland from the Santa Rosa Sound and those have never flooded. They're actually trailers and they're survived every Hurricane or TS.

Other Floridans can opine, but I don't think storm surge is a huge issue once you're 5 miles inland. Your bigger concern would likely be wind from a hurricane or flooding from massive amounts of rain like we saw a couple years back with Houston Which is ~30-40 miles inland I believe

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