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Derek Chauvin, 22.5yrs

By BayArea follow BayArea   2021 Jun 25, 1:21pm 411 views   32 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/derek-chauvin-sentencing-for-murder-of-george-floyd.html

To me this was a black and white involuntary manslaughter case and he should have gotten 2-4yrs.

He caught the pendulum at the very top of its swing and taking the punishment for a lot of bad apples.

The whole story is beyond sad.

One thing is for sure, this case was the cherry on the sundae for not allowing any loved one to ever pursue law enforcement as a career.
1   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 25, 1:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They'll put him to work fashioning Floyd memorial items instead of license plates in the prison workshop. Of course, he'll be out on appeal because of massively distorted process, after the brouhahahahah dies down.
2   Karloff   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 25, 1:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It's always a sad day for justice when politics taints the legal system. My blood boils whenever courts use the phrase "make an example of" and then give a disproportionately harsh sentence to one person instead of handling a case independently.

I know people are angry that some cops get off Scot-free for murdering people who don't deserve it, but it's adding fuel to the fire when you decide to take that rage out on one specific person like this and pile all those missed punishments onto him.

Don't mix social justice with actual justice.
3   Hircus   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 25, 2:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Twitter has enormously long threads of tweets where they all say the exact same thing, using rearranged words. They all complain 22.5 years is way too short, and that black men get longer sentences for equal or lesser crimes, often citing links wo cheap examples which gloss over all the details, instead focusing on showing white skin next to black skin.

It looks like a twitter bot net propaganda campaign.

4   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 25, 2:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

He'll be out in two or three on appeal and be able to sue for back pay and benis.
5   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 25, 3:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says
Twitter has enormously long threads of tweets where they all say the exact same thing, using rearranged words. They all complain 22.5 years is way too short, and that black men get longer sentences for equal or lesser crimes, often citing links wo cheap examples which gloss over all the details, instead focusing on showing white skin next to black skin.


I'm convinced 80% of the Leftist/Biden Shill accounts are bots
6   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Jun 25, 3:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Karloff says
people are angry that some cops get off Scot-free for murdering people who don't deserve it

Murdering cops should be prosecuted. I don't know of any that aren't, except that cold blooded calculating killer that took out Ashli Babbitt.
7   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 25, 3:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
He'll be out in two or three on appeal and be able to sue for back pay and benis.

Exactly. He was "punished" to appease the rioter/looter crowd. A year from now, when he will be forgotten, he will appeal and will be let out. Remember, police! will get off always.

Police shot 2 dead rednecks in N. Houston, in a no-knock raid, tried to falsify evidence, etc. None of the policemen are in jail. Luckily, rednecks returned fire, wounding 4 of the police. Search for Pecan park raid.
8   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 25, 4:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
Pecan park raid


Gerald Goines is charged with two counts of felony murder. His partner, Steven Bryant, is charged with tampering with a government record. Both were also arrested by the FBI on November 20.


https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/New-details-emerge-on-Pecan-Park-botched-drug-raid-14816982.php
9   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 25, 4:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Gerald Goines is charged with two counts of felony murder. His partner, Steven Bryant, is charged with tampering with a government record. Both were also arrested by the FBI on November 20.

They are out on bail now, released secretly. See https://www.click2houston.com/news/2019/12/04/ex-officer-arrested-in-harding-street-raid-granted-150000-bail/

And bail for murdering 2 people is 150K. One rule for us, other for police.
10   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 25, 5:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

How many folks do you all know, went into Law Enforcement to get off on the Power Behind The Badge? (as opposed to working for public safety).

Just asking.
11   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 25, 5:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I've heard two interesting things about the police, neither of which I really know to be true:

1. the majority are ex-military, because the skills needed are similar
2. cops get laid a lot, because women find dominant men very sexy

The second could be quite a motive to join the police force.
12   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 25, 5:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sacrificial lamb to the woke lynch mob
13   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2021 Jun 25, 7:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I've heard two interesting things about the police, neither of which I really know to be true:

1. the majority are ex-military, because the skills needed are similar
2. cops get laid a lot, because women find dominant men very sexy

The second could be quite a motive to join the police force.


The first used to be true but is much less true nowadays.

The second is true but it’s not the dominance. Cops have wacked out groupies. There is an alpha male thing involved but it’s not about dominance.
14   Eman   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 26, 12:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This is effing BS. Involuntary manslaughter at most should have been the sentence.
15   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 26, 1:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Karloff says
I know people are angry that some cops get off Scot-free for murdering people who don't deserve it, but it's adding fuel to the fire when you decide to take that rage out on one specific person like this and pile all those missed punishments onto him.


Chauvin didn't even murder George Floyd - he didn't even accidentally kill him.

Floyd died of a drug over dose. A year prior to his last arrest, he was arrested before. All the drugs he had on him, he ingested, and ended up in the hospital from a drug overdose but he avoided a drug possession charge. Chauvin, REALLY didn't kill Floyd - Floyd died of an OD and this time didn't make it to a hospital in time.

And if you don't believe me, here's the full body cam footage of his arrest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gQYMBALDXc

You can see he resisted arrest, he complained about problems breathing BEFORE he was pinned to the ground, and I remember thinking "he's handcuffed - why would Chavin have to pin him to the ground - what's was he going to do - RUN?" - yes, that's exactly what Floyd would have done if he wasn't restrained.

It's unfortunate that Floyd died, but he wasn't murdered. He killed himself. Watch the video.

Chauvin is an innocent man that has been sent to prison because our government and the judicial system is entirely corrupt.

There's certainly corrupt cops and I think they SHOULD be made examples of - dirty cops are the worst criminals. They should be executed. But Chauvin wasn't one of them.
16   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Jun 26, 1:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Murdering cops should be prosecuted. I don't know of any that aren't, except that cold blooded calculating killer that took out Ashli Babbitt.


Oh no, police kill people needlessly all the time. Do you really need examples? I have a few, but I need to look them up.

Don't fall for the rhetoric that the government doesn't do anything wrong, ever. They do - and police officers DO murder people all the time. That doesn't mean there aren't good police officers, but clearly criminals in our government who are under the badge frequently walk away from their crimes.

It's not an either/or situation.

Derek Chauvin was innocent by the way. He was CLEARLY innocent.

Our government is a criminal syndicate trying to constantly create violence, because they are criminals. They want us fighting among one another, and not fighting them. We're at stage 1 - identify who the enemy is. Not everybody in the government is a criminal, but they work for a criminal syndicate. We need to get them to understand that.

I've worked for what I now consider very evil companies, people have to realize when they've been used. I'm not evil, but the work I've done, has been used to do that. I didn't know, and that's most of the police force.
17   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 26, 7:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
They want us fighting among one another, and not fighting them.

It seems increasingly clear that they are trying to foment a Hot Race War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50ALgqS6cM
18   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 26, 7:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I've heard two interesting things about the police, neither of which I really know to be true:

1. the majority are ex-military, because the skills needed are similar
2. cops get laid a lot, because women find dominant men very sexy

The second could be quite a motive to join the police force.


I think most of the ones I knew who went into that work were attracted to the Power Behind the Badge. I'll never forget a friend of mine in high school explained to me why he left to be an Army enlistee for the final semester of high school, where he'd complete his HS education with an Army GED. He explained to me, his enlistment contract got him a slot in the MP's school. I asked him why that mattered. He told me: a tour as an MP in the Army would help him on his path to getting a civilian police job so he could "legally beat up n*ggers". I was shocked. We were in a diverse HS were we all including him were friendly with blacks and respected our black teachers.

Of those I knew who went into policing who did not seek The Power Behind The Badge, their motivation was just to get a job. One was a HS friend, one a college friend. They did not follow that path to feed a power trip. I was shocked by the transformation. They shared with me that the Power Of The Badge was a perk that came with the job they didn't realize they'd enjoy. One of them shared with us (other college friends and me) that he learned he enjoyed being able to rough up black people as part of the job. These two guys came into the field just looking for a job but assimilated the values of the New Centurions (a 1970's movie about LA Cops).

Now near 60 years of age with the network of friends, family, classmates, neighbors, etc., deep roots living in the same community all these years, I could go on and on with many more such anecdotes.

A couple of rare exceptions:

A relative (inlaw) made a poor choice of a college major and so went into police for a solid job. He was not comfortable with the New Centurion type values and left the force in the first year. We all supported him on his choice.

A few years ago I made a pilgrimage to a rural community in Kansas that's out in the middle of nowhere. It was a four hour drive from the nearest city (Kansas City). We have some ancestral roots there. We wanted to see the cemetery and other landmarks. Even though these types of small communities in FlyOver Land are mostly hollowed-out, abandoned-storefront, desolate-desperate rural Hillbilly-Elegy Meth-Land mini-me versions of Detroit, this little town of about 3000 in rural Kansas was not. On the drive to our destination we drove through many of the sad little towns I described. But our destination was a thriving, affluent little town as it was at the intersection of major highways for the region so it had (for a town it's size) a busy freight warehousing industry. It was also the County Seat, with local government and the local Community College propping up the economy with more payroll of outside money.

I had never met my relatives there before. I did not know they'd even existed till a few weeks before our pilgrimage. The town had the vibe of a rural fantasy place like "Mayberry" in the old 1960's TV shows. We met our cousin who was one of the small number of village police. 40-50 ish years old, he came to his mom's house during his lunch break to meet us. A small village, maybe he had to walk a couple of blocks, that's all.

Jeez oh man. He comported himself, and looked like, he could have walked right off the set of the 1960's "Andy Griffith Show" as the sheriff Andy character. We mostly chatted about our family relations. There was no time to talk about his police work. But, I am open minded he was not in the job for The Power Of The Badge. And since he hadn't joined a large urban policing organization, he had not absorbed those values while in the job.
19   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Jun 26, 10:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

GEORGE FLOYD'S BROTHER SAYS "NOT JUST BLACK LIVES MATTER, ALL LIVES MATTER"
20   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Jun 26, 11:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

DEREK CHAUVIN SENTENCED TO 22.5 YEARS IN PRISON

travesty
21   SumatraBosch   ignore (9)   2021 Jun 26, 11:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Trump will take Chauvin on as a running mate on his 2024 ticket and have Pence dismembered on a special edition of The Apprentice.

Then Trump will pardon Chauvin and appoint him US Attorney General.
22   Booger   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 26, 12:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

What a sad joke. Justice died in America around the time Obama got into the White House. What exists today isn't justice, it's rewards for some and punishments for others, based on race, religion and political affiliation.
23   just_passing_through   ignore (8)   2021 Jun 26, 12:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I've heard two interesting things about the police


Chick I dated in Livermore ended up dating a Livermore cop after me. Apparently he had a fetish: He'd go get in her bathtub and she's urinate all over him.
24   just_passing_through   ignore (8)   2021 Jun 26, 12:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
DEREK CHAUVIN SENTENCED TO 22.5 YEARS IN PRISON


Indeed a travesty...
25   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Jun 26, 12:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_passing_through says
Indeed a travesty...

He looks like one of the actors in a twilight zone episode that can't really process what is going on.

He must have refused the vax 'cause he's wearing a mask.
26   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 26, 12:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
Justice died in America around the time Obama got into the White House.

Much earlier. None of the federales who burned down Waco and killed scores of children were punished for anything.
27   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 26, 3:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I think the correct interpretation of events is "this gang vs that gang" and not right or wrong anymore.

The FBI is just a gang now, not a police force of any kind.
28   Eman   ignore (0)   2021 Jun 26, 3:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
DEREK CHAUVIN SENTENCED TO 22.5 YEARS IN PRISON

travesty


This is fucking BS! It would be a mistrial if I were on that trial. These jurors have no backbone.
29   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 26, 4:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eman says
mistrial if I were on that trial. These jurors have no backbone.


It's the duty of the court to reckon that if you bring bias you will not be seated as part of the jury. They would likely figure it out during the jury panel selection process. You can lie, I suppose, to get on a jury to advance your agenda. This probably happens. But likely they will figure you out in the selection process. That's all they do, all day every day in high visibility trials. They are better at ratting out bias, than we are at lying or holding back to get on a jury to advance our agenda.

I've been rejected twice in jury selection because I gave honest answers.
30   Booger   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 26, 5:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
Eman says
mistrial if I were on that trial. These jurors have no backbone.


It's the duty of the court to reckon that if you bring bias you will not be seated as part of the jury. They would likely figure it out during the jury panel selection process. You can lie, I suppose, to get on a jury to advance your agenda. This probably happens. But likely they will figure you out in the selection process. That's all they do, all day every day in high visibility trials. They are better at ratting out bias, than we are at lying or holding back to get on a jury to advance our agenda.

I've been rejected twice in jury selection because I gave honest answers.


Probably no white people on the jury.
31   Booger   ignore (6)   2021 Jun 26, 5:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
I've been rejected twice in jury selection because I gave honest answers.


Because you aren't black.
32   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 26, 6:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
Because you aren't black.


Booger, I "liked" your remark. Not because I agree with it, but because of the Snark. Give Booger a chit.

the first time, the defendant was a white guy who was charged with causing bone-crushing injuries to his infant. The jury pool was over 500 people, split up in groups of over 100. I was kicked off the panel in the second week of the Jury Selection. I was in the 3rd or 4th group. It was a sensational crime that had been on local news media a couple years before. It took that long for the DA or grand jury or whatever to build their case. I was seated in the jury panel, but I was kicked off the jury as one of the defense challenges, with no reason given. However, earlier in the selection process I told the judge that I could not guarantee not to hear publicity about the trial during the trial as I would be listening to the traffic congestion reports on the local news radio channel. It's Silicon Valley, horrible commute traffic. Especially then, during the dot.com. This is before those fancy apps on mobile phones could provide that traffic info.

the second time, the defendant was a college student at UC Berkeley on a drunk driver charge. The student was not black. I was the 12th juror picked. At that point, there were only two other yet un-selected potential jurors in the pool.

The lawyers and judge were all good to go withme and the other 11 empaneled jurors. The prosecuting attorney asked the whole pool if we had any final questions. I raised my hand, not to ask a question but to make a statement. You see, I did not like the judge. She pissed me off because she was not sensitive to people in the jury pool who had childcare problems. Moreover she pissed away taxpayer resources by convening the court around 10 AM, taking 2+ hour lunches, and dismissing the court at 4 PM. I don't care about her (the judge's) problems, this was inconsiderate to everyone, including taxpayers paying for the whole shebang. It was not the only jury duty I've been at. It was just the only jury duty where I was pissed off at a lazy, selfish judge.

I told the prosecuting lawyer that I would politely listen to "her" (pointing at the judge, and not dignifying her by referring to "the judge" or "the court") instructions. But, I would decide for myself if I would follow her instructions or instead follow my conscience. "I will use the legal system to vote my conscience". They kicked me out of there in a New York minute.

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