2
0

DeSantis beats Trump in poll


 invite response                
2021 Jun 20, 11:18am   2,001 views  36 comments

by Shaman   ➕follow (4)   💰tip   ignore  

“ At the Western Conservative Conference this weekend, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis edged out former President Donald Trump as the preferred 2024 GOP presidential candidate.

Here are the top 10 finishers:

Ron DeSantis: 74.12%
Donald Trump: 71.43%
Ted Cruz: 42.86%
Mike Pompeo: 39.35%
Tim Scott: 35.58%
Kristi Noem: 29.92%
Tom Cotton: 29.92%
Rand Paul: 27.76%
Donald Trump Jr.: 24.8%
Mike Pence: 21.56%

https://notthebee.com/article/desantis-just-beat-trump-in-a-2024-straw-poll-at-a-top-conservative-conference

Comments 1 - 36 of 36        Search these comments

1   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jun 20, 1:01pm  

GOP trying hard to replace Trump again.
2   Shaman   2021 Jun 20, 1:22pm  

Fortwaynemobile says
GOP trying hard to replace Trump again.


Everyone is replaceable. Like John the Baptist, Trump paved the way for the way for someone even greater. At least I like to think that way, that the best is yet to come!
3   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jun 20, 1:29pm  

Everyone that hasn't realized the rouse, is beyond repair.

Is DeSantis doing great for Florida? Yes!
Is DeSantis really an America first outsider politician he's being elevated to?
Not in a million years! His actual track record is establishment as Fuck!
The choices he's made during the last year, in regard to COVID, was cheap and easy political stuff that would only bolster his brand to run for higher office. It's not like he stepped on any Wall Street Oligarch's toes in doing so. Everything he's done in regard to keeping Florida open, is all low hanging fruit that he can do to jamb his thumbs in the Left's eyes.
He would never do anything to upset the balance of the Money men. For the 2020 election he vetoed an election integrity bill, that would have prevented any ballot harvesting and the shenanigans, we saw in other states in the 2020 election. BUT now for his own reelection he passed an election integrity bill. He did it for himself, but wouldn't do it for Trump's reelection.
He's best buds with Marco Rubio, and came on the scene backed by the same guys. He's backed by the Koch brothers, and the Bush empire. The Marijuana legislation they passed, made a monopoly out of just five backers of his, and nobody else.

This is all stuff I've been told by someone who is fourth Generation in Florida Politics, and someone who has held high positions in the Florida GOP.

I would like to see Ron DeSantis do one more term, and do something positive, that is doing something great for Florida, other than making a law that gives Liberals a brain hemorrhage. I would like to see him pass something that sticks a finger in the Big Money and Big Donor's eyes. That should be a short order if he's the MAGA champion everyone is trying to make him out to be. The fact that he's playing along with this sick plan to divide and conquer Trump's base, says more than anything I've just told you.

For those of you that don't get the subtle sophistication of modern politics, let me explain to you what is going on here.

What was the one thing that was missing in the 2016 primary field?

Someone that could run neck and neck with Trump in Primary races. Had they had someone like that in 2020, Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush would have been President.

He's being touted as a 2024 candidate only to divide the MAGA voting base. Knowing Trump only has a solid 60% of the Republican field at any given time, if that.
The rest of the Republican voters really are true RINOs at heart, that's why RINOs keep getting elected. They only reason those RINOs voted for Trump in the Election, was because at least he ran on the Republican ticket, but make no mistake they would have rather had Mitt Romney. So you go and throw another stalwart for the Ameirca first movement into the fray, then he goes and splits that 60% voting base. Trump and DeSantis both get around 30% every election. While the Mitt Romney's and Terd Cruze gets 33%.

We're going to fuck around and end up with a RINO for President, and Andrew Gilium for Florida Governor.

The more this asshole humors everyone about a 2024 run, the more I'm starting to can't stand him, and believe my GOP buddy, and everything he said about him. As it makes no sense for Ron DeSantis to allow these rumors. Even if Trump doesn't run, has anyone noticed the Establishment media and their polls are dead silent on Mike Pompeo running for President?

I would rather Mike run in 2024 if Trump doesn't, and Ron finish the job he started in Florida with a second term. Then after that will be destined for any office he choses, if he continues his track record he did in his first term in office. Especially if he redeems himself by passing legislation that flies in the face of the Oligarchs.
4   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jun 20, 1:36pm  

You know that poll is pure bullshit, Pompeo would trash Terd Cruz in an election between just the two of them. .
5   Ceffer   2021 Jun 20, 1:38pm  

More bullpollshit.
6   Shaman   2021 Jun 20, 3:03pm  

I feel like not enough people know and appreciate Mike Pompeo. I caught one of his speeches and was impressed with the man. I’d like to hear more.

@tenpoundbass you may be perfectly right about DeSantis, I’m not sure. At this point I just want responsible governance to resume in America, free of the GloboHomo garbage that the Democraps keep pushing. I am SO fucking sick of Democraps! I’d vote for an aardvark over a Democrap, even if he was a frontman for the moneyed interests in America.

I don’t think Trump can win again. He won’t be allowed to win again, as the last election clearly showed us. So let’s stop talking like he is an option.

DeSantis or Pompeo. I’d love Rand Paul, but he’s never had that charisma necessary for winning such a popularity contest. And his hair isn’t great. Yah that’s stupid but we let women vote, so them’s the rules.
7   Onvacation   2021 Jun 20, 3:58pm  

HunterTits says
Shaman says
Ron DeSantis: 74.12%
Donald Trump: 71.43%


....ummm.

That's how the Democrats count.
8   Shaman   2021 Jun 20, 4:02pm  

If you read the linked article it says that it’s a straw poll where participants could vote for more than one candidate to get a sense of overall popularity vs absolute choice between candidates.
9   joshuatrio   2021 Jun 20, 4:13pm  

Onvacation says
HunterTits says
Shaman says
Ron DeSantis: 74.12%
Donald Trump: 71.43%


....ummm.

That's how the Democrats count.


This
10   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jun 20, 7:04pm  

Ron DeSantis hasn’t had to fight anyone or his own party yet. Just wait till globohomo attacks start, that really shows the character under adversity.

I do like Ron, but he isn’t proven. We need someone who could stop all faggot shit and leftists and not cower under extreme pressure.
11   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jun 20, 7:56pm  

Fortwaynemobile says
Just wait till globohomo attacks start, that really shows the character under adversity.



Those attacks will be directed at Trump, then after the primary. Those attacks will be directed at candidate DeSatnis. But not until after the Primary.
12   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 20, 9:51pm  

They're already attacking DeSantis. "People whinging about Desantis Online" is a popular social media account.

I want Trump in as soon as possible, and that means the House. In 2022, maximum effort on taking back the House. Anybody can be Speaker, BTW, though it would be a no brainer for Trump to win any non-Dark Blue FL CD.

That's where he can really punish RINOs who don't get in line by stripping them of actual power to help Globohomo by removing them from Committees, and reward Followers, control the Purse, and hold investigations into Hoover Institution False Flags. Defund Military "Extremist" programs... Write laws about Grants to CCP connected institutions... Regulate Big Tech.
13   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jun 20, 9:54pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
They're already attacking DeSantis. "People whinging about Desantis Online" is a popular social media account.


That’s nothing yet man. When they attacked Trump we all knew, that shit was all over. Even gop didn’t back Trump, were cowering half the time. The real shit will be closer to elections. Now it’s just water testing.
14   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 20, 9:57pm  

Fortwaynemobile says
That’s nothing yet man. When they attacked Trump we all knew, that shit was all over. Even gop didn’t back Trump, were cowering half the time. The real shit will be closer to elections. Now it’s just water testing.


Oh they fucking hate him. Even the national Press blamed him for the Accident at the Delray Gay Pride parade in the hours after it happened. DeSantis is loathed by Blue Florida more than anything.

DeSantis hasn't been economically tested, but he is a Social Con and one of the toughest so far, if not the toughest.
15   Shaman   2021 Jun 21, 1:08pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
I want Trump in as soon as possible, and that means the House. In 2022, maximum effort on taking back the House. Anybody can be Speaker, BTW, though it would be a no brainer for Trump to win any non-Dark Blue FL CD.


A Trump as Speaker, DeSantis as President double team combo would be the Democrat’s worst fucking nightmare! I love it!
Especially with a lot of new conservative judges and justices to back him up on the inevitable Lawfare attacks the Dems will launch.
Would also be a nightmare for Secret Service as there would be ceaseless attempts at assassination of both men.
16   Bd6r   2021 Jun 21, 1:18pm  

Donald says
Now watch how quickly Trump turns on DeSantis. I can't wait to find out what nickname Trump is going to give him. Being more popular than Trump is NOT allowed!

lets preserve this for posterity and see how it ages.

BTW, DeSantis is better than Trump as Pres - he is younger, and we don't need any more "gerontologically advanced" officeholders aka senile old farts. Perhaps there should be 70 or 75 yr age limit for office holders. Also, DeSantis will get a few hundred thousand votes because of Hispanic-sounding name.
17   Onvacation   2021 Jun 21, 2:18pm  

Rb6d says
Perhaps there should be 70 or 75 yr age limit for office holders. Also, DeSantis will get a few hundred thousand votes because of Hispanic-sounding name.

Ben Franklin attended the Constitutional Convention at age 81.

Let's judge them one by one on their mental faculty rather than their physical age.

Biden- Demented
Pelosi - Deranged

I don't know if Trump will be mentally fit to serve as president in 2024, but I know Biden is unfit now.
18   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 21, 3:23pm  

It's okay for legislators to be of advanced age; but Executives should be under 70-75 by law.
19   Onvacation   2021 Jun 21, 3:59pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
It's okay for legislators to be of advanced age; but Executives should be under 70-75 by law.

I like it!

So the window of running for president would be from the age of 35 to the age of 75. We'll start when Trump completes his third term.
20   Onvacation   2021 Jun 21, 4:01pm  

But seriously, we need some young blood in the executive AND the legislative.
21   WookieMan   2021 Jun 21, 6:16pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
It's okay for legislators to be of advanced age; but Executives should be under 70-75 by law.

SS age. 64? 70 is too old. Even the most successful I know at that age are a step slow. Sure there are unicorns but most don’t have it after 70.
22   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jun 21, 6:22pm  

Donald says
Now watch how quickly Trump turns on DeSantis. I can't wait to find out what nickname Trump is going to give him. Being more popular than Trump is NOT allowed!


He won’t, relax the TDS my man.
23   Shaman   2021 Jun 21, 7:32pm  

Donald says
So if the primary comes down to DeSantis and Trump, you don't think that Trump will throw the kitchen sink at DeSantis?


“Making predictions is hard, especially about the future” - Yogi Berra
24   just_passing_through   2021 Jun 21, 7:39pm  

Trump first. I am taking 10lb's opinion on Ron and FL.
25   just_passing_through   2021 Jun 21, 7:41pm  

Onvacation says
But seriously, we need some young blood in the executive AND the legislative.


I tend to agree but Trump seems to have more energy than most people in their 20s these days.
26   Misc   2021 Jun 21, 9:17pm  

There will be other trial balloons from the establishment trying to do away with our current system of voting. They are going to try to go with a system of voting by preference.

Example: you get 5 votes to select candidates and you vote 1 through 5 on your order of preference for the candidates. The candidate with the highest "preference" of votes wins.

This allows the establishment to run several opposition candidates against a single populist candidate. Thereby diluting the preference votes for the populist.

Yes, they are going to try this shit.
27   Onvacation   2021 Jun 21, 10:02pm  

Misc says
Example: you get 5 votes to select candidates and you vote 1 through 5 on your order of preference for the candidates. The candidate with the highest "preference" of votes wins.

It will never work. It already takes a month to count when the choices are Donald and Joseph.
28   Onvacation   2021 Jun 21, 10:02pm  

Doesn't mean they won't try it.
29   Patrick   2021 Jun 23, 10:16am  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/ron-desantis-doctrine-florida-president-2024/

It’s difficult to understand DeSantis’s appeal without talking about Donald Trump. Trump is still the party’s de facto leader and he’s publicly flirting with running in 2024. The centrist, hawkish wing of the Republicans — Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, et al. — and the DC pundit class believe that the party will return to ‘normal’ if Trump and his alleged personality cult fade into the night. But they have never understood that Trump was a vessel for nationalist and populist ideas that had simmered for years. A recent Quinnipiac poll shows that policy now precedes personality: more Republican voters want the winner of the 2024 primary to align with Trump on the issues than want Trump to run again.
30   HeadSet   2021 Jun 23, 6:14pm  

Misc says
There will be other trial balloons from the establishment trying to do away with our current system of voting. They are going to try to go with a system of voting by preference.

Example: you get 5 votes to select candidates and you vote 1 through 5 on your order of preference for the candidates. The candidate with the highest "preference" of votes wins.

This allows the establishment to run several opposition candidates against a single populist candidate. Thereby diluting the preference votes for the populist.

Yes, they are going to try this shit.

This voting method is the actual method being used right now in the NYC Dem primary for the NYC mayor. They are already trying it.
32   richwicks   2021 Jul 14, 4:23pm  

Tenpoundbass says
You know that poll is pure bullshit, Pompeo would trash Terd Cruz in an election between just the two of them. .


Pompeo is from the CIA. Don't you remember the infamous "we lied, we cheated, we stole"?

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/04/24/pompeo-cia-lied-cheated-stole/

You might as well have Bill Barr or Robert Mueller president.
33   richwicks   2021 Jul 14, 4:29pm  

Misc says
There will be other trial balloons from the establishment trying to do away with our current system of voting. They are going to try to go with a system of voting by preference.

Example: you get 5 votes to select candidates and you vote 1 through 5 on your order of preference for the candidates. The candidate with the highest "preference" of votes wins.

This allows the establishment to run several opposition candidates against a single populist candidate. Thereby diluting the preference votes for the populist.


No it doesn't! It's an instant run off. Here's why this system is an improvement.

You can have 20 people on the ballot. Say it's Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, Mike Gravel (even though he recently did - RIP), Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, Illian Ohmar, I would vote this way:

Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Donald Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders.

If Ron Paul failed to get the majority, then my vote goes to Mike Gravel, if he fails to get the majority my vote goes to Donald Trump, then Tulsi Gabbard, and finally Bernie Sanders.

It allows you to pick for a candidate you actually want, KNOWING they are unlikely to win. It doesn't dilute the vote, and if it does, I don't see how.
35   zzyzzx   2021 Sep 23, 8:06am  

Gaslighting is hard here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/poll-pence-tops-desantis-by-double-digits-in-poll-of-2024-contenders

Poll: Pence Tops DeSantis By Double Digits In Poll Of 2024 Contenders
36   Tenpoundbass   2021 Sep 23, 8:11am  

Jeb Bush would beat Pence in a Primary, and we all know Jeb doesn't get over 3% of any State.

Please register to comment:

api   best comments   contact   latest images   memes   one year ago   random   suggestions