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So, does that mean it was not a hate crime?

Onvacation says

So, does that mean it was not a hate crime?

It was. He was motivated by anti-American hate.

Just like Matthew Sheppard was killed for drugs and money by fellow gay addicts who knew him from the bar. Not because he was gay. That's why his killers were found high as the sky in broad daylight wandering the side of the prairie highway acting erratic and covered in blood

I thought they determined that Mateen was a self hating, closeted gay or bisexual, and had hung around the club before.

Ceffer says

had hung around the club before.

Yes, which shows as a lie that statement Mateen found Pulse by typing "Club, Orlando" in Google

I find it very unlikely that he didn't know who he was shooting.

Patrick says

I find it very unlikely that he didn't know who he was shooting.

It was a twofer. Kill the Americans and the homosexuals.

Ceffer says

I thought they determined that Mateen was a self hating, closeted gay or bisexual, and had hung around the club before.

I thought the same thing, however, that was based on one or two "witnesses" claiming they had seen him before and he was "100% Gay". However, that was never clearly established, nor did any evidence or partners of Mateen emerge. His wife, a Palestinian and clear enabler (he signed over all his property to her family) for what it's worth, claimed his sex drive was perfectly fine with her.

He was also (with his wife in tow) scouting out Disney previously, but the security was too strong, so he switched to nightclubs.

Odds are very low that he didn’t know the target of his massacre. Come on.

It's possible, I think unlikely, but it isn't proven he targeted the gays specifically.

He was foiled by Disney Security and it looks like he just googled Nightclubs. I'm pretty sure he figured out they were gay when he at least walked in the door.

My wife and I walked into a gay nightclub in Long Beach a long time ago by accident when we were walking around the beach. It was obvious in a second what it was. Patrons turned around and laughed at us and we left immediately. Apparently, breeder breaches weren't that uncommon.

Went into a Gay Bar with my wingman in the 90s in South Beach.

After we got our drinks, and discussing last night's outcome with two Romanian Cruise Ship Chicks, this bald gay man at the next table says "You guys know this is a gay bar right?"

I said "We came here to drink, not to get laid."

Whole bar laughed.

Onvacation says

Patrick says

I find it very unlikely that he didn't know who he was shooting.

It was a twofer. Kill the Americans and the homosexuals.

He knew quite well. I remember when it happened, he posted that he hated degeneracy, he even tracked them down using grinder app. It’s how we all found out such apps exist.

America lately worships gay absurdly, they don’t realize how insane they are to the world.

I don't particularly mind that Democrats embrace outright suicidal behavior like getting fucked in the ass and getting the vaccine in the arm (not that different, injections of foreign genetic material either way).

But I very much mind when they push these things on children and on the general public, and when they restrict our fundamental right to object.

Patrick says

I don't particularly mind that Democrats embrace outright suicidal behavior like getting fucked in the ass and getting the vaccine in the arm (not that different, injections of foreign genetic material either way).

But I very much mind when they push these things on children and on the general public, and when they restrict our fundamental right to object.

That’s the fucked up part. Children have no voice, so they go after children with propaganda. Sick and twisted.