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Censorship is insane lately

By Fortwaynemobile follow Fortwaynemobile   2021 Feb 7, 6:14pm 328 views   20 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Every day more and more censorship is out there. And not a single freedom uproar, even Republican cucks are quiet.
1   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 7, 11:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This site still exists!
2   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 7, 11:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
Every day more and more censorship is out there. And not a single freedom uproar, even Republican cucks are quiet.


Anybody that has any ethics left the echo chambers years ago. Do you think anybody cares if Facebook is filled with propaganda and censors? Why? Anybody that has realized this left is years ago.
3   Misc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 10, 1:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You try to explain to the msm watchers, that when the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court declines to participate in this mockery, he is going to rule it unconstitutional.

Your comments are insta-zapped, as that is not part of the narrative.

Go ahead give it a try.
4   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 10, 1:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The right answer is to zap the msm from your life and instead to participate in alternate, honest media.
5   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 4:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Do you think anybody cares if Facebook is filled with propaganda and censors?

They of course censor, but I think the propaganda seed planted in normal people has started to grow. So if you're active on FB, even your own friends will censor you now. They've created an automated censor machine of just normal users. I've blocked probably close to 10 friends and family that attended my wedding. Their brains apparently melted and they don't understand reality or are too stupid.

And yes, I know, I know, don't use FB. But when you were one of the earliest adaptors back when I was in college, you didn't understand what it was and would become. Basically the cat is out of the bag on my data. I have no accounts linked, as in sign up for X service with FB. I look at it as a news site for my friends that I just scroll through and don't interact with.

It's a really sad place though if you know things that others don't. You see these photos of a family having such a good time doing x y z. The reality is dad is a loser alcoholic and they're about to get divorced. Or going on expensive vacations when you know they have no money and in some cases owe you money. The lying is staggering. It's probably the reason it's easy to brainwash people on social media. Everyone secretly knows most everything is fake, so they start to play the game themselves. It's probably a worse virus than covid and has probably led to more suicides than covid, especially among younger people, which is sad for how stupid FB is.
6   richwicks   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 10, 6:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
And yes, I know, I know, don't use FB. But when you were one of the earliest adaptors back when I was in college, you didn't understand what it was and would become.

This is where you are wrong, absolutely wrong. I know what it was, and was it still is - not what it would become.

First of all, it was endlessly promoted by our "news" media. That's a red flag right there. It was then pre-installed on smart phones, another red flag. Third, it was used for commenting on nearly every "news" site, that's yet another red flag.

I never joined Facebook. I regarded it as an intelligence operation by the government. Facebook repeatedly had "failures" in where they "accidentally" switched private information to public information of their users. Facebook is nothing more than a website to collect personal information on people foolish enough to use it. When they demanded a phone number to authenticate you, that was the final red flag. I'm shocked anybody continued to use it after that point.

WookieMan says
Everyone secretly knows most everything is fake, so they start to play the game themselves. It's probably a worse virus than covid and has probably led to more suicides than covid, especially among younger people, which is sad for how stupid FB is.

It's because everything is public. A lot of old things of the Internet ought to be brought back.

Also, I think everybody has done it, has learned the hard way, don't lend friends money.
7   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 7:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
First of all, it was endlessly promoted by our "news" media. That's a red flag right there. It was then pre-installed on smart phones, another red flag. Third, it was used for commenting on nearly every "news" sites, that's yet another red flag.

I was on it waaaaaay before it was embedded in every website. If any at that time. No media reporting on it at all. Like I said, I was in college. My original account had to be within the first 50k subs and probably earlier. I can't remember the year because it's irrelevant now, but I was in early. I signed up and didn't like it because no one was on it. Didn't use it for almost 3 years before it started gaining traction enough for it to be worth checking out again. MySpace was still the thing then.

Either way I don't participate with anything on the platform. No likes, comments, posts, clicking links, etc. I also use burner accounts for almost everything I do where my IP is the only identifying factor and even then it's all over the place due to VPN. Don't sign up for services with FB. No linked phone numbers or legit emails.

I literally just scroll and read, that's it. Not sure what they'd be getting out of me. Never click an ad. It's a news site for what people I know are doing. Boring, but sometimes interesting. Besides my name and location, I "say" I'm from Chicago but don't live there, but FB doesn't have data on me that's worth getting worked up about. I have a drivers license, that frankly is more dangerous unless you post your life on FB. The idea of privacy after you get a government ID is laughable. The game is over at that point. FB is the least of your worries.

I found people as part of my past living to try and purchase properties. FB makes it easier, but it's not the first source I'd ever go to. You're compromised well before you even open a FB account.
8   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Feb 10, 7:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I deleted my FB account yesterday.
It wasn’t giving me anything but aggravation.
And I can’t say what I want to say or even like the “wrong” posts lest I and my family be ostracized from the lefty society in which we live.
I’m done.
When FB asked me why I was leaving I checked the box that “I feel unsafe on Facebook.”
9   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 7:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shaman says
It wasn’t giving me anything but aggravation.

I get it. I've blocked everyone that aggravates me. It's a neutral experience for me now.

I use it as a tool now mainly and unfortunately it's an effective tool so I've got to stick around. I like money and it helps in that endeavor for me. Again I don't interact, but information people are willing to give up is valuable.

Fleeing FB hurts their bottom line. My concern is that there's still people being brainwashed there. It's nasty, but fighting back always seems to work for the left. And I get if you have a job/employer that could see the fight and fire you. So it's dangerous. But if people don't fight back against stupidity, we go further down the rabbit hole and we likely can't get out at some point.
10   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 7:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
First of all, it was endlessly promoted by our "news" media.


This is true: NPR was constantly droning about it very early on. I thought it was weird for a public radio to blatantly promote a private business.
11   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 8:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
richwicks says
First of all, it was endlessly promoted by our "news" media.


This is true: NPR was constantly droning about it very early on. I thought it was weird for a public radio to blatantly promote a private business.

What is/was early though? Out of curiosity I looked it up, Feb 2004 FB was created (I suck with dates). I graduated college in '05. I for sure had an account in 2004, 100%. Like I mentioned I signed up but didn't use it. I used my college email account and lost access.

There was no way in 2004 it was getting press. Maybe later in the year, maybe. My wife and I got word of it from a friend going to Syracuse. There were no smartphones unless you consider a blackberry to be one. FB didn't take off really big until the iPhone from my recollection in 2007. There were 2-3 years where it was the red headed step child to MySpace if I recall correctly. Could be wrong. It took a while to get off the ground.
12   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 10, 9:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Not sure what they'd be getting out of me.

# of engagements and # of "active users". More of those and they can sell ads for higher price. So you are supporting them by virtue of having an account.
13   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Feb 10, 9:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Facebook was actually around in a proto form back when I was in college in the late 90s. I used it to host a few pictures that I used to link to. It wasn’t a social network worth mentioning back then tho.
14   Bd6r   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 10, 9:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Also, if we can not be inconvenienced to cancel facebooks, twitters, gmails, etc then perhaps we should not whine and complain about being censored by the said companies.
15   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 9:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
# of engagements and # of "active users". More of those and they can sell ads for higher price. So you are supporting them by virtue of having an account.

I don't engage though. No likes, no ad clicking, nothing. I literally scroll and for business purposes gain information that makes networking easier. I'm the user they hate. I give nothing and get what I need.
16   Hircus   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 10, 11:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
No likes, comments, posts, clicking links, etc. I also use burner accounts for almost everything I do where my IP is the only identifying factor and even then it's all over the place due to VPN.


I was an early user of FB too, back when myspace was popular. I still have an account, but I'd estimate I've only used FB maybe 3 hours over the past decade, and only logged in maybe 3-4 times in that decade, and haven't for ~ 3 yrs.

But there's MUCH more than IPs that they use to link people to accounts. One is 3rd party info companies which cookie you and share info with other such trackers (one company knows X about you, the other knows Y, by sharing data, they can then collectively deduce other info). Another is browser fingerprinting, which is very effective, and simple. Another is location data - if you walk next to someone else who also has FB on their phone, or sit next to them etc... they can see that from the loc data, and can figure out that youre acquaintances, even if youre not FB friended (I actually did this as a college project. my probabilistic calculations were > 90% accurate at finding acquaintances purely from location + timestamps of user accounts. I know I can improve it with more effort, and especially if I had more data, which FB has endless amounts of). I guarantee there's other avenues they use too.

These past 2 years I started getting monthly recruiting emails from FB. They know so much about me, that they dont even bother emailing the email account I used for FB - they know that I don't use it. Instead, they cc 3 other email addresses of mine. Yup, they fucking linked me across them all. One of those email accounts really surprised me, because I almost never use it, and I use it as a burner account, never using my real name, but they know its mine. I also religiously use adblockers and social media blockers in my browsers, but this cannot stop a website from directly relaying your info to FB on the backend, which would be impossible to stop.

My point is that it's much more difficult than most people think to achieve account identity separation, if youre using both accounts from the same computer. Dont kid yourself. Using each account from a diff computer, each computer with diff hardware, and with diff IPs would probably work ok so long as youre strict about never logging into the same account from both computers (no, not just logging into a FB account - any account).
17   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 11:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
What is/was early though? Out of curiosity I looked it up, Feb 2004 FB was created (I suck with dates). I graduated college in '05. I for sure had an account in 2004, 100%. Like I mentioned I signed up but didn't use it. I used my college email account and lost access.


It was open to the public in 2006, iirc, and this is when fucking NPR started to hawk it at every turn.
18   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 10, 12:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rb6d says
Also, if we can not be inconvenienced to cancel facebooks, twitters, gmails, etc then perhaps we should not whine and complain about being censored by the said companies.


This.

I'm now asking everyone who emails me from gmail to try out Protonmail instead, because I don't like Google reading what they write to me, or what I write back.
19   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 10, 1:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
It was open to the public in 2006, iirc, and this is when fucking NPR started to hawk it at every turn.

I graduated college in 2005, so it was for sure available before then. Just asked the wife as she was the one to turn me onto it and she has her original account. So it was publicly available unless we were test dummies or something. Got informed about it from a high school friend that was out at Syracuse. So maybe we got into it before most. 100% had an account in 2004 though. Maybe spring 2005, but I know I had an account April 2005 or sooner no matter what. I remember setting the account up in a computer lab and I never set foot on my university since I graduated.
20   Automan Empire   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 10, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says
ut there's MUCH more than IPs that they use to link people to accounts.
Hircus says
Using each account from a diff computer, each computer with diff hardware, and with diff IPs would probably work ok so long as youre strict about never logging into the same account from both computers


I recently encountered an example of this. First of all, while I'm not a luddite, I haven't jumped on every electronic leash bandwagon my fellow humans did. Thus I have never owned a FB account or a cell phone.

I host campsites on a certain website and was recently investigating a possible problem with the "host referral" program with a $100 commission for each sign up. I discovered if you manually paste the address into the address bar, it pulls up a new host sign up form with your referral code. However, if you make it a clickable link, on the same computer it appears to function, but when you try it on a different computer, it shows the correct target URL in the address bar, but the website dumps you on a 404 page. From there, it's one click to the home page, then one click to the "Sign up with (website)" form, which takes you to a different sign up form THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE A FIELD TO ENTER THE REFERRAL CODE." To be clear, it appears the company (which recently got an 8 figure new round of investment capital) did some server side fuckery to screw people out of their promised $100 commission for walking a new customer to them.

Now the part relevant to this thread. I tried opening a new host account to observe the sign up process and see if it retained or lost the referral code. I used a Gmail account and a different computer. SOMEHOW the system twigged on the fact I was logged into the Yahoo Mail account used to open my original account on that website, and populated some information accordingly!

A lot of shady things happening beneath the surface, and I am still working to resolve the issue. Support is playing dumb if you ask me.

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