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I'm a vaccinated Bay Area senior. Can I hug my grandchildren? - NO!

By Eric Holder follow Eric Holder   2021 Feb 2, 12:11pm 251 views   20 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


With initial vaccine rollout in the state moving from frontline healthcare workers to 65-and-over Californians, plenty of seniors have questions about returning to some level of normalcy.

Starting with: Can I finally hug my kids and grandchildren if I've been vaccinated?

"The answer is no, not yet," said Dr. John Swartzberg, a UC Berkeley infectious disease doctor and professor who is 75 years old and has grandchildren himself. "Here’s the calculus I’ve been doing: If the vaccine works and is going to protect me from getting sick, it has a 95% chance of doing that. Do I want to take a 1-in-20 chance of getting COVID from one of my grandkids? No, I don’t think I really want to do that."

UCSF infectious disease expert Dr. Monica Gandhi echoed the need to exercise caution and added, "After full vaccination, we are still recommending that seniors mask and distance from others to protect others, since we don’t have a full picture yet of the data and whether vaccination reduces the risk of transmitting virus, or just the risk of COVID-19 to the individual vaccinated."


https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-senior-vaccinated-can-I-see-my-grandchildren-15905264.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight
1   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 12:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This shit is getting beyond ridonkulous.
2   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 12:12pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Not until the word Trump has been entirely removed from all MSM and digital media.
3   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 12:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eric Holder says
This shit is getting beyond ridonkulous.

It's not a vaccine though. There's a 10 in 10 chance you can still get Covid with the "vaccine." It reduces symptoms and makes you less likely to die. You can still get it and transmit it to others after being vaccinated. You just don't feel as bad, lol. No different than any flu variation and vaccine that we don't and haven't masked for.

This has all been stupid. I'm convinced at this point that 90-95% of the population are absolute retards. We have people buying worthless companies to stick it to some rich guys that will come out on the other end just fine and richer than before. People are trading spreadsheets for 30k a pop. We're living idiocracy. The stupidity right now is astounding.
4   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 12:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I'm convinced at this point that 90-95% of the population are absolute retards. We have people buying worthless companies to stick it to some rich guys that will come out on the other end just fine and richer than before. People are trading spreadsheets for 30k a pop. We're living idiocracy. The stupidity right now is astounding.


Sad, but true.
5   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Feb 2, 1:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Only if you are double condomed..er, double masked.
6   GlocknLoad   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 1:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
This has all been stupid. I'm convinced at this point that 90-95% of the population are absolute retards.

I've lost all respect for 90-95% of everyone I have ever known.
7   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 2, 1:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Even if the vaccine is effective and those with the vaccine can't spread the disease, a fundamental problem is that people will just lie about having the vaccine so they can go back to normal living. The next step is to roll out an effective certification system that identifies those who have had the vaccine. Until then, the government has to tread the fine line that the vaccine is worth taking but isn't effective. Go figure.
8   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Feb 2, 1:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.foxnews.com/us/congressman-second-covid-19-dose-tests-positive-virus

So a Democrat Congressman tested positive for Covid almost two weeks after getting his second vaccine shot.

Does that answer your question as to whether you can still get Covid after the vaccine? This “anecdote” was too high profile for the vaxxers to cover up.
9   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 1:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/congressman-second-covid-19-dose-tests-positive-virus

So a Democrat Congressman tested positive for Covid almost two weeks after getting his second vaccine shot.

Does that answer your question as to whether you can still get Covid after the vaccine? This “anecdote” was too high profile for the vaxxers to cover up.

I don't think it's anecdotal. I think the 2 approved manufacturers have said as much. It's a therapeutic, not a vaccine in the traditional sense. We're just used to hearing about the "flu vaccine" and acting like it's an actual vaccine. It's not something that stops polio, measles, etc... It cannot eradicate the virus. It gives you a lower likelihood of getting it and/or the consequences being fatal. It also doesn't stop you from spreading it. It's basically the flu vaccine, which still ends up with 10's of thousands dead every year with said vaccine.

TL:DR - It's stupid.
10   GlocknLoad   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 1:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
TL:DR - It's stupid.

Now convince 200 million retards.
11   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I thought it you got the vaccine, you didn't have to worry about living long enough to catch Covid again.
12   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2021 Feb 2, 1:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don't think Tiffany Dover got the Wuhan and she was injected with the experimental biologic agent.
13   theoakman   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 1:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

But there is no evidence that little kids can even transmit it. SCIENCE!!!!
14   theoakman   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 2, 2:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Do I want to take a 1-in-20 chance of getting COVID from one of my grandkids?


This guy is an insult to science, medicine, and math. This boneheaded way of thinking assumes that there is a 100% chance your child has Covid.

If 1 out of 1000 people have it, the "1 in 20 chance" is closer to 1 in 20000. But since kids below age 10 don't transmit it it, it's more like 1 in 1000000.
15   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 2, 2:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goal is to break up families. Total demoralization.

Too many obedient idiots demanding Democrats tread them harder.
16   mell   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 3:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Everyone walking around with a face diaper outside has been brainwashed. in SF that's 90% of the population.
17   SunnyvaleCA   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 2, 3:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Everyone walking around with a face diaper outside has been brainwashed. in SF that's 90% of the population.
One look at some of the streets in SF and you'll see that the diaper is being worn on the wrong end.
Maybe there could be a compromise in face mask positioning. I propose that the senior congressman from New York might be a leader after all!
18   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 5:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

theoakman says
But since kids below age 10 don't transmit it it, it's more like 1 in 1000000.

Math has been done for a while. If you even have basic math skills, or so I thought, 99% of people should realize Covid is non-existent basically. It is mathematically and statistically nothing. You will die in a plane crash, tornado, lightening strike, car crash, etc. well before you do of Covid. This is fact.
19   FuckCCP89   ignore (6)   2021 Feb 2, 5:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Math has been done for a while. If you even have basic math skills, or so I thought, 99% of people should realize Covid is non-existent basically. It is mathematically and statistically nothing.


Math is racist.
20   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 2, 7:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eric Holder says
If the vaccine works and is going to protect me from getting sick, it has a 95% chance of doing that. Do I want to take a 1-in-20 chance of getting COVID from one of my grandkids?


Right, the math here is terribly stupid.

He's assuming that there is a 100% chance that one of his grandkids has it, and that it's transmissible.

Probably none of his grandkids has it, or if they had it, didn't notice and are immune now, and not transmitting it anyway.

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