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A new and innovative way for Google to kill your startup


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2021 Jan 16, 10:48am   245 views  8 comments

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https://gomox.medium.com/google-safe-browsing-can-kill-your-startup-7d73c474b98d

In the old days, when Google (or any poorly tuned AI that Google unleashed) decided it wanted to kill your business, it would usually resort to denying access to one of its multiple walled gardens, and that was that. You've probably heard the horror stories:
Sites getting bumped off of Google search result pages and falling into oblivion
YouTube videos getting demonetized and creators losing their income stream
Android Apps getting removed from the Google Play Store and left with no way to reach their users
APIs having their pricing altered drastically, or quite simply disappearing into the deprecation abyss
And last but not least, the personal life analog of all of the above: individuals losing access to their GMail accounts and their entire digital life.

...a business, by choice, uses Google services in a way that makes its survival entirely dependent on them.


It is profoundly stupid to make your business dependent on Google in any way.

Did you know that it's possible for your site's domains to be blacklisted by Google for no particular reason, and that this blacklist is not only enforced directly in Google Chrome, but also by several other software and hardware vendors? Did you know that these other vendors synchronize this list with wildly variable timings and interpretations, in a way that can make fixing any issues extremely stressful and unpredictable? Did you know that Google's ETA for reviewing a blacklist report, no matter how invalid, is measured in weeks?

This blacklist "feature" is called Google Safe Browsing, and the image here depicts the subtle message your users will see if one of your domains happens to be flagged in the Safe Browsing database. Warning texts range from "deceptive site ahead" to "the site ahead contains malware" (see here for a full list), but they all share an equally scary red background design, and borderline impossible UI for people to skip the warning and use the site anyway. ...

Be ready to jump domains if you need to. This is the hardest thing to do, but it's the only effective tool against being blacklisted: engineer your systems so that their referenced service domain names can easily be modified (by having scripts or orchestration tools available to perform this change), and possibly even have alternative names available and standing by.


OK, one thing I definitely need to do is additional domain names for patrick.net.

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1   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jan 16, 11:08am  

Google are fucking assholes. Went from cool startup to totalitarian assholes.
2   GlocknLoad   2021 Jan 16, 11:11am  

Patrick,

You and others (richwicks?) have the expertise to start a company that can consult businesses how to avoid Google. Why not do it? It sounds as though you and others even have the knowledge to create these alternate systems. Do it.
3   Patrick   2021 Jan 16, 10:39pm  

@GlocknLoad thanks for the suggestion. But would people pay for advice on how to avoid Google? Most of them don't even see the danger until it's too late.
4   richwicks   2021 Jan 17, 1:37am  

GlocknLoad says
You and others (richwicks?) have the expertise to start a company that can consult businesses how to avoid Google. Why not do it? It sounds as though you and others even have the knowledge to create these alternate systems. Do it.


I am so depressed right now that I'm useless for at least a month.
5   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jan 17, 10:36am  

richwicks says
GlocknLoad says
You and others (richwicks?) have the expertise to start a company that can consult businesses how to avoid Google. Why not do it? It sounds as though you and others even have the knowledge to create these alternate systems. Do it.


I am so depressed right now that I'm useless for at least a month.


Welcome to the club. I’m in the same boat. Losing my country to crazy leftist fuck sticks who are canceling and censoring everything. Stealing all our money and fucking everything up.
6   Patrick   2021 Jan 17, 10:59am  

I feel exactly the same way.

There was an old slave song about a "cat playing with a no-hole mouse" and that's how it is now for everyone who disagrees with the propaganda of "racism".

Real economic issues are ignored, imaginary race issues put in their place.

White people are unjustly slandered and blamed for everything while the 0.1% run away with the ball and entrench their monopolies, coordinating their monopoly power to crush alternatives like Parler.

The flood of leftist shit is coming in under the door now. There's nowhere left to hide without shit being forced down your throat.
7   Shaman   2021 Jan 17, 11:43am  

How do you issue a blacklist report on a website? That sounds like something I’d like to abuse.
CNN is going to get it first. Then MSNBC and the rest of the fake news media are going to get red borders every fucking day until the Google changes their idiotic policy.
8   Shaman   2021 Jan 17, 11:46am  

richwicks says
I am so depressed right now that I'm useless for at least a month.


You just need a righteous cause.
Watch this 8 minute video. I promise it will be worth your time.
https://youtu.be/EUZ0vTbpJcU

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