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Tenpoundbass
2021 Jan 15, 6:48am
Tenpoundbass
2021 Jan 15, 6:48am
ohomen171 says
Is that a Lament in a post about gender inequality? Or are males responsible?
Women's hands have a different structure.
Is that a Lament in a post about gender inequality? Or are males responsible?
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porkchopXpress
2021 Jan 15, 6:51am
porkchopXpress
2021 Jan 15, 6:51am
I thought women could do anything men can do. To suggest gender differences is both sexist and misogynistic.
Patrick - please flag this post.
Patrick - please flag this post.
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ForcedTQ
2021 Jan 15, 6:57am
Women have to hit the keys on keyboards twice as hard as men to get the key to depress? Does the keyboard know the sex/gender of the user and change from 10 inch pounds to 20 inch pounds of force to actuate the keys? What kind of bullshit is this? Women’s hands have a different structure? Different how, joints/section length/ligaments and attachment points/muscle mass(only one I can tell)?
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Karloff
2021 Jan 15, 7:33am
Karloff
2021 Jan 15, 7:33am
That keyboard comment might have been somewhat accurate with mechanical typewriters back in the 1950's, but with computer keyboards, it's nonsense. Keyboards are available in so many configurations that if you want a short-stroke, low-force switch, you can get one.
Most of their complaints also apply to men who are shorter than average, but nobody cares about the plight of any man these days..
Most of their complaints also apply to men who are shorter than average, but nobody cares about the plight of any man these days..
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RWSGFY
2021 Jan 15, 7:41am
RWSGFY
2021 Jan 15, 7:41am
If a woman feels uncomfortable in a chair she needs to identify as a man for the time she's sitting in that chair. Instant comfort!
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stereotomy
2021 Jan 15, 7:49am
stereotomy
2021 Jan 15, 7:49am
Keyboards - It ain't typing, but tell that to the Japanese pianists preforming Liszt.
I guess the old saying is true - "If you [males better adapted to cold temperatures] can't stand the heat, get out of [the females' natural surrounding] kitchen" - OK, just bring me a sammich . . .
I guess the old saying is true - "If you [males better adapted to cold temperatures] can't stand the heat, get out of [the females' natural surrounding] kitchen" - OK, just bring me a sammich . . .
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Tenpoundbass
2021 Jan 15, 7:54am
Tenpoundbass
2021 Jan 15, 7:54am
stereotomy says
Asian Piano keys require about 5lbs of force at least to depress the keys.
When I was in Malaysia, the office liaison, invited me over to her house for lunch one day. Her mom had a piano in the livingroom. I mentioned that I play the keys a little(my thing is guitar), so she told me to play some. I tried to do a shrill, and a finger run down the keyboard, and about twisted my fingers like pretzels. She said Chinse Pianos aren't like Western Pianos. The music they play is more choppy, not melodic.
Keyboards - It ain't typing, but tell that to the Japanese pianists preforming Liszt.
Asian Piano keys require about 5lbs of force at least to depress the keys.
When I was in Malaysia, the office liaison, invited me over to her house for lunch one day. Her mom had a piano in the livingroom. I mentioned that I play the keys a little(my thing is guitar), so she told me to play some. I tried to do a shrill, and a finger run down the keyboard, and about twisted my fingers like pretzels. She said Chinse Pianos aren't like Western Pianos. The music they play is more choppy, not melodic.
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NDrLoR
2021 Jan 15, 8:49am
NDrLoR
2021 Jan 15, 8:49am
Tenpoundbass says
Chinse Pianos aren't like Western Pianos. The music they play is more choppy, not melodic.Ching-Ching wow-wow woo
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NuttBoxer
2021 Jan 15, 10:52am
NuttBoxer
2021 Jan 15, 10:52am
Sounds like this lady needs to speak up more instead of just assuming offense. Victims don't seem to enjoy their lives very much...
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richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 11:02am
richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 11:02am
If this is all true, looks like a huge business opportunity to make many things designed for women.
I wonder when some entrepreneur will do it? I mean - if this market actually exists.
I did have to have a laugh on the keyboard bitching. Keyboards are designed for men? REALLY? The original typewriter was actually designed mostly for women and a manual typewriter, that actually required some force and strength to use. A bet a typical female secretary back in the 1970's would be able to strangle a man.
I wonder when some entrepreneur will do it? I mean - if this market actually exists.
I did have to have a laugh on the keyboard bitching. Keyboards are designed for men? REALLY? The original typewriter was actually designed mostly for women and a manual typewriter, that actually required some force and strength to use. A bet a typical female secretary back in the 1970's would be able to strangle a man.
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georgeliberte
2021 Jan 15, 11:38am
georgeliberte
2021 Jan 15, 11:38am
If the roles were reversed, men would be told they just have to adjust to the world as it is.
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ForcedTQ
2021 Jan 15, 1:44pm
Karloff says
That keyboard comment might have been somewhat accurate with mechanical typewriters back in the 1950's, but with computer keyboards, it's nonsense. Keyboards are available in so many configurations that if you want a short-stroke, low-force switch, you can get one.
Most of their complaints also apply to men who are shorter than average, but nobody cares about the plight of any man these daysKarloff saysThat keyboard comment might have been somewhat accurate with mechanical typewriters back in the 1950's, but with computer keyboards, it's nonsense. Keyboards are available in so many configurations that if you want a short-stroke, low-force switch, you can get one.
Most of their complaints also apply to men who are shorter than average, but nobody cares about the plight of any man these days..
I am saying that it doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t matter if you are a man or a women, a certain keyboard takes the same amount of pressure to depress a key regardless.
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Booger
2021 Jan 15, 3:22pm
Booger
2021 Jan 15, 3:22pm
ohomen171 says
Nope. They are designed for 300lb+ land whales of either gender.
The safety systems in motor vehicles (seat belts and
Nope. They are designed for 300lb+ land whales of either gender.
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Patrick
2021 Jan 15, 5:47pm
Patrick
2021 Jan 15, 5:47pm
It's not "gender" it's SEX.
The only reason we use the false term "gender" today when talking about SEX differences is that Ruth Bader Ginsberg (may she rot in hell) deliberately used only that term when debating about it, to distract from the fundamental reality of the TWO SEXES which everyone knows to be true.
It's very much as if the Palestinians got everyone to use their term "Zionist Entity" instead of Israel when talking about Israel.
We have been brainwashed.
The only reason we use the false term "gender" today when talking about SEX differences is that Ruth Bader Ginsberg (may she rot in hell) deliberately used only that term when debating about it, to distract from the fundamental reality of the TWO SEXES which everyone knows to be true.
It's very much as if the Palestinians got everyone to use their term "Zionist Entity" instead of Israel when talking about Israel.
We have been brainwashed.
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SunnyvaleCA
2021 Jan 15, 6:28pm
Early typewriters were made to be as light-action as possible. That was all that technology and manufacturing could do 100 years ago at a reasonable price point.
Nowadays, as others have pointed out, there's a wonderful assortment of modest-cost keyboard available. You could check out the Cherry switches on websites like this one:
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-mechanical-switches-for-gaming/
Nowadays, as others have pointed out, there's a wonderful assortment of modest-cost keyboard available. You could check out the Cherry switches on websites like this one:
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-mechanical-switches-for-gaming/
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stereotomy
2021 Jan 15, 7:06pm
stereotomy
2021 Jan 15, 7:06pm
As a Gen-Xer, I've had to endure the swings of fashion dictated first by the generation before me (boomers) and now the generation after me (Gen-Y). It sucks being the the generation of the birth dearth (mass adoption of female birth control) - I'll be perpetually demographically outvoted.
A couple of irritating examples:
When I was younger, all medicine bottles had the childproof caps, so that the boomers' latchkey kids wouldn't poison themselves while waiting for mom to come home (remember the "We're not candy!" daytime commercials?). Now it seems like childproof caps aren't such a thing, probably 'cause the boomers can't open them with their arthritic hands.
From the 90's through the naughties (00's), shoes kept getting wider. I'd have to buy thick socks just to keep my feet from sliding around. Now shoes are too narrow and pointed - I guess that's what Gen-Y likes. It's the same with dress slacks (got to be skinny with floods), suits, and shirts - too tight, too short. By the time gen-y starts filling out and their arches collapse, I'll be retired or dead, so this means no more clothes for me unless bespoke.
As bad as it is for Gen-X men, it's worse for teh wimmins - just put on a mumu and call it a day, since nothing else fits.
A couple of irritating examples:
When I was younger, all medicine bottles had the childproof caps, so that the boomers' latchkey kids wouldn't poison themselves while waiting for mom to come home (remember the "We're not candy!" daytime commercials?). Now it seems like childproof caps aren't such a thing, probably 'cause the boomers can't open them with their arthritic hands.
From the 90's through the naughties (00's), shoes kept getting wider. I'd have to buy thick socks just to keep my feet from sliding around. Now shoes are too narrow and pointed - I guess that's what Gen-Y likes. It's the same with dress slacks (got to be skinny with floods), suits, and shirts - too tight, too short. By the time gen-y starts filling out and their arches collapse, I'll be retired or dead, so this means no more clothes for me unless bespoke.
As bad as it is for Gen-X men, it's worse for teh wimmins - just put on a mumu and call it a day, since nothing else fits.
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richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 8:36pm
richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 8:36pm
stereotomy says
I'm gen-X myself.
Lose weight. Cook at home, don't buy anything in a box other than pasta, beans, and milk. Don't buy anything in a can that has anything other than the food in the can plus water and things you RECOGNIZE in the ingredients unless high fructose corn syrup is in it. Don't eat anything in a jar - it's not that hard to make a sauce yourself. Get out your reading glasses.
Processed food is crap. Don't worry about "organic". If we went entirely organic, 6 million people would starve to death.
As bad as it is for Gen-X men, it's worse for teh wimmins - just put on a mumu and call it a day, since nothing else fits.
I'm gen-X myself.
Lose weight. Cook at home, don't buy anything in a box other than pasta, beans, and milk. Don't buy anything in a can that has anything other than the food in the can plus water and things you RECOGNIZE in the ingredients unless high fructose corn syrup is in it. Don't eat anything in a jar - it's not that hard to make a sauce yourself. Get out your reading glasses.
Processed food is crap. Don't worry about "organic". If we went entirely organic, 6 million people would starve to death.
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clambo
2021 Jan 15, 8:48pm
Oh nigga please.
Firstly, it’s sex, not gender.
Whether you are a male or a female is which sex you are, not which gender.
Gender refers to words in the languages which have masculine and feminine words.
Keyboards are too resistant to type on for females?
What bullshit.
Anecdote: A guy I know moved to a different state and decided to become a woman.
After spending a lot of money for surgeries on his face and body, he was treated as a female.
He said it was amazing to him how well he was treated; how helpful and nice men were to him, and other advantages of being a female in daily life.
Firstly, it’s sex, not gender.
Whether you are a male or a female is which sex you are, not which gender.
Gender refers to words in the languages which have masculine and feminine words.
Keyboards are too resistant to type on for females?
What bullshit.
Anecdote: A guy I know moved to a different state and decided to become a woman.
After spending a lot of money for surgeries on his face and body, he was treated as a female.
He said it was amazing to him how well he was treated; how helpful and nice men were to him, and other advantages of being a female in daily life.
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Bd6r
2021 Jan 15, 9:27pm
Bd6r
2021 Jan 15, 9:27pm
Patrick says
@Patrick, sex=gender. To think otherwise is to succumb to Newspeak.
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/gender
It's not "gender" it's SEX.
The only reason we use the false term "gender" today when talking about SEX differences is that Ruth Bader Ginsberg (may she rot in hell) deliberately used only that term when debating about it, to distract from the fundamental reality of the TWO SEXES which everyone knows to be true.
It's very much as if the Palestinians got everyone to use their term "Zionist Entity" instead of Israel when talking about Israel.
We have been brainwashed.
@Patrick, sex=gender. To think otherwise is to succumb to Newspeak.
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/gender
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richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 9:41pm
richwicks
2021 Jan 15, 9:41pm
clambo says
Let us know if he kills himself.
I have no problem with people going through transgendered surgery, and there are people with intersex conditions and I have sympathy for them.
But he/she is sterile. The only point of marriage is to raise kids. I expect this person to be alone forever - and they may want that, but I'd be surprised if "she" ever enters marriage. We are all dealt a role in life, some of it good, some of it bad. I hope the person you knew has great success and happiness, but they are on a tilted playing field.
Anecdote: A guy I know moved to a different state and decided to become a woman.
After spending a lot of money for surgeries on his face and body, he was treated as a female.
He said it was amazing to him how well he was treated; how helpful and nice men were to him, and other advantages of being a female in daily life.
Let us know if he kills himself.
I have no problem with people going through transgendered surgery, and there are people with intersex conditions and I have sympathy for them.
But he/she is sterile. The only point of marriage is to raise kids. I expect this person to be alone forever - and they may want that, but I'd be surprised if "she" ever enters marriage. We are all dealt a role in life, some of it good, some of it bad. I hope the person you knew has great success and happiness, but they are on a tilted playing field.
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Patrick
2021 Jan 15, 9:44pm
Patrick
2021 Jan 15, 9:44pm
Rb6d says
Not exactly. Sex has connotations of sex, while gender does not.
Ginsberg deliberately did not want people to think about sex so she could obfuscate the difference.
sex=gender
Not exactly. Sex has connotations of sex, while gender does not.
Ginsberg deliberately did not want people to think about sex so she could obfuscate the difference.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 15, 10:33pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2021 Jan 15, 10:33pm
Gender was a long con. It was first used to separate sexual chemical/physical characteristics from behaviors in the 50s, but then introduced as a buzzword substitute for sex for a few decades, then re-emerged in it's old definition once enough laws, forms, etc. were in place. Kinda sneaky. Another reason it became a substitute was because "sex" was increasingly tied to actual sexual intercourse and people wanted to distance from that word.
If you asked somebody in 1965, 1975, 1985, 1995, maybe as late as 2005 to pick a multiple choice synonym for "sex", most would have chosen "B. Gender". In fact, if somebody was arsed they could probably find that exact situation in SATs or other Exams prior to the 2010s. Or in dictionaries of the time
Ironic, because Gender's root is gene which means "origin, to give birth" and further expanded in Greek/Latin to be "order, kind" as in a natural born characteristic.
Too many institutions have too much power. For example, who votes on Legal Philosophy? It changes over time, but by controlling the Law Schools, you can change the jurisprudence by changing the theories and thus the meaning of terms.
My brain was jogged by "Originalism", what did the statute writers intend? Pretty clear that most of our laws dealing with discrimination, etc. were written with "sex" in mind, not "behaviors" manifested on a "Gender Spectrum"
If you asked somebody in 1965, 1975, 1985, 1995, maybe as late as 2005 to pick a multiple choice synonym for "sex", most would have chosen "B. Gender". In fact, if somebody was arsed they could probably find that exact situation in SATs or other Exams prior to the 2010s. Or in dictionaries of the time
Ironic, because Gender's root is gene which means "origin, to give birth" and further expanded in Greek/Latin to be "order, kind" as in a natural born characteristic.
Too many institutions have too much power. For example, who votes on Legal Philosophy? It changes over time, but by controlling the Law Schools, you can change the jurisprudence by changing the theories and thus the meaning of terms.
My brain was jogged by "Originalism", what did the statute writers intend? Pretty clear that most of our laws dealing with discrimination, etc. were written with "sex" in mind, not "behaviors" manifested on a "Gender Spectrum"
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Patrick
2021 Jan 16, 10:16am
Patrick
2021 Jan 16, 10:16am
NoCoupForYou says
Lol, great point.
I can now reply that gender literally means an innate characteristic.
Ironic, because Gender's root is gene which means "origin, to give birth" and further expanded in Greek/Latin to be "order, kind" as in a natural born characteristic.
Lol, great point.
I can now reply that gender literally means an innate characteristic.
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Bd6r
2021 Jan 16, 11:20am
Bd6r
2021 Jan 16, 11:20am
ohomen171 says
Out of persons shot by police, 98% are MALE. First, this is a horrible gender inequality, and second, this deserves peaceful riots because sexism.
Surprising Facts About Gender Inequality
Out of persons shot by police, 98% are MALE. First, this is a horrible gender inequality, and second, this deserves peaceful riots because sexism.
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Patrick
2021 Jan 16, 11:43am
Patrick
2021 Jan 16, 11:43am
Rb6d says
Are you asking the Left for logical consistency here?
ohomen171 saysSurprising Facts About Gender Inequality
Out of persons shot by police, 98% are MALE. First, this is a horrible gender inequality, and second, this deserves peaceful riots because sexism.
Are you asking the Left for logical consistency here?
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SunnyvaleCA
2021 Jan 16, 11:56am
Rb6d says
Yup, those complaining about how various racial groups have various undesirable outcomes should consider how much more strongly various outcomes are sorted by sex. Men are massively more likely to be:
• shot by police
• arrested by police
• in prison
• executed by the state
• expelled from school
• killed in war (at least USA citizens)
• killed in a war in which they were drafted against their will
• killed in a work-related accident
• killed in a suicide
• suicided by the Clintons
Out of persons shot by police, 98% are MALE. First, this is a horrible gender inequality, and second, this deserves peaceful riots because sexism.
Yup, those complaining about how various racial groups have various undesirable outcomes should consider how much more strongly various outcomes are sorted by sex. Men are massively more likely to be:
• shot by police
• arrested by police
• in prison
• executed by the state
• expelled from school
• killed in war (at least USA citizens)
• killed in a war in which they were drafted against their will
• killed in a work-related accident
• killed in a suicide
• suicided by the Clintons
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Ceffer
2021 Jan 16, 11:56am
Ceffer
2021 Jan 16, 11:56am
If women gave two hand jobs a day, they would have no problem pounding keyboards. It's their own fault for not attending to their duties.
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Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:24pm
Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:24pm
When asked race and sex on any form from now on, everyone should "identify with" exactly what they are not.
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Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:34pm
Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:34pm
And similar to the race canard, when THEY talk about "gender inequality" WE talk about the impoverishment of the American middle and lower class via outsourcing to China and insourcing illegals.
DO NOT ACCEPT THEIR FRAME
THE CORRECT FRAME IS ELITE VS THE REST OF US
DO NOT ACCEPT THEIR FRAME
THE CORRECT FRAME IS ELITE VS THE REST OF US
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Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:53pm
Patrick
2021 Jan 17, 8:53pm
@ohomen171 Do you approve of a small group of billionaires effectively censoring what YOU can and cannot say online?
What really caught my attention was her discussion on gender differences. Elena complains to me all the time that chairs, couches and other furniture swallow her. They appear to be designed for 6' tall men like me. She also complains about the temperatures maintained in office buildings, restaurants, and theaters. The temperatures are kept artificially low due to males with large body mass and less sensitivity to cold. Dr. Mark added some to the list that I had not realized. When she was in Antarctica, she was issued heavy-weight cold weather gear designed for a small man. It did not fit her. This same practice happened in spaceflight until recently. Female astronauts were required to wear ill-fitting spacesuits designed for small males. Then she surprised me with two new gender differences that I was not aware of. The safety systems in motor vehicles (seat belts and air bags) are designed for large males like me. Due to this design deficiency, women needlessly suffer a lot of serious injuries including foot injuries because of this design flaw. She cited the design of women's shoes as another contributory factor to women suffering serious injuries in car crashes.
Then she surprised me with something else that I didn't know. Keyboards are designed for male hands. One must exert a lot of force when hitting the keys. Women's hands have a different structure. They have to hit the keys on keyboards twice as hard to get them to work. When I lived in Australia in the 1980s, a lot of women were relegated to doing data entry jobs. Every day of their life was pounding keyboards to get data into computers. Many submitted permanent disability claims due to metacarpal fractures in the hands. Now I see why.