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Raffensperger With Lawyer Lies Directly To Trump And Thinks Leaking To Washington Post Will Save Him


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2021 Jan 3, 4:02pm   1,652 views  52 comments

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WaPo tried to make it look like Trump was extorting votes with editing, but couldn't quite mask the transparent lies of Georgia SOS. Trump was ever conciliatory because he is a negotiator, but he cornered creep with kindness before laying the boom that he and his lawyers are criminals.

Raffensperger must believe that the MSM fake news press mills have magic charms that will protect him. He just exposed himself again as a treasonous liar.

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1   HeadSet   2021 Jan 3, 5:11pm  

Interesting. CBS News was running a story all day in YouTube about Trump "influencing" Georgia with a phone call. CBS seems to have taken it down now, though.
2   richwicks   2021 Jan 3, 5:16pm  

Here is the complete audio file.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/c/embed/3f9426f4-7937-4718-8a8e-9d6052001991

I have also downloaded it in case it disappears. I can repost it if necessary.

Oh, and @WookieMan - I downloaded that with my computer and placed it on a webserver that runs locally on my account, then I placed it on my phone by accessing my private webserver from my phone and downloading it there (my computer isn't rate limited in transfer speed). Now I'm going to go for a walk listening to the conversation.
3   HeadSet   2021 Jan 3, 5:22pm  

Raffensperger must believe that the MSM fake news press mills have magic charms that will protect him.

And why not believe that Press will cover for him? Look how they covered for Biden along with burying all evidence on vote fraud.
4   Ceffer   2021 Jan 3, 5:41pm  

At the very least, Trump did one of his classic switcheroos by getting the MSM to publish contrary news that questions election results. The benighted propaganda victims of USA are going to get a mysterious show over the next week and MSM are going to have some egg on their faces. Raffensberger and his lawyer lied on record in a national press publication, which merely has to be waved in front of a tribunal or court. What happened to lawyers telling their clients to keep their mouths shut?

I'm interested if there are traps being laid for the fraudsters in Georgia repeating the act with the runoffs. I would think that a real time blow by blow illustration of the frauds would be fun to watch. I would go after those ballot drop off boxes with a flamethrower.
5   richwicks   2021 Jan 3, 6:51pm  

Ceffer says
Raffensberger and his lawyer lied on record in a national press publication, which merely has to be waved in front of a tribunal or court.


I've heard the entire conversation now. I'm not certain there's any proof that Raffensberger or his lawyer lied - they just denied that the numbers Trump was giving were correct.

In another Raffensberger was being questioned by Trump if the voting machines were being tampered with or if ballots were being destroyed. Trump seemed to have proof that this was ongoing, Raffensberger just claimed that he had no knowledge of such a thing occurring.

So unless Trump has real evidence, it's just he said/she said.

You have to remember, Trump may be receiving FALSE information from his own people. We are going through a coup d'état after all. The one thing I've learned in the last 4 years is there isn't 2 parties, there's one - the government. Nobody in federal government can be trusted to be honorable or honest.
6   HeadSet   2021 Jan 3, 7:01pm  

HeadSet says
Interesting. CBS News was running a story all day in YouTube about Trump "influencing" Georgia with a phone call. CBS seems to have taken it down now, though.


And now they are back up accusing Trump of ordering someone to find votes to overturn the Georgia election...
7   WookieMan   2021 Jan 3, 7:24pm  

richwicks says
Oh, and @WookieMan - I downloaded that with my computer and placed it on a webserver that runs locally on my account, then I placed it on my phone by accessing my private webserver from my phone and downloading it there (my computer isn't rate limited in transfer speed). Now I'm going to go for a walk listening to the conversation.

Cool. I Air Dropped it to my phone in under a minute. Not sure your point. Like I said, don't want to get into a pissing match over this. I literally did the same thing you just said. Audio is super easy with iPhones. If it worked for you on another device, great.
8   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 3, 7:48pm  

Stupid...Trump never asked for votes. He just said he only needed fraudulent 12k votes to be overturned, not legitimate votes.
9   richwicks   2021 Jan 3, 7:51pm  

WookieMan says

Cool. I Air Dropped it to my phone in under a minute.


How? Does your phone have the ability to rip videos and store just the audio? Where's that functionality? What application?
10   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 3, 10:53pm  

That’s an awful lot of incoherent rambling by Trump.

“We won because our rallies were bigger.. they said a tremendous number of dead people voted... they said 120% of the people voted... they said provisional ballots.. they said we won... they said ... they said they said...

How many times does Trump say “They said” in this rant? Why doesn’t he just say “the tooth fairy said”.. has about the same credibility.

The first 12 minutes is a painful, delusional, repetitive rant of a lunatic.

Still listening... I’m waiting for the “bitch slapping” by Trump to commence... the one that the dork in the top video claims occurs.
11   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 3, 11:09pm  

porkchopexpress says
Stupid...Trump never asked for votes. He just said he only needed fraudulent 12k votes to be overturned, not legitimate votes.


Trump and his team is pulling so much out of their asses in this audio... it’s comical. Trump is obviously just reading Gateway Pundit and reading Donald.win and regurgitating it all in this audio.

It’s actually pathetic... he’s the fucking president and this is all he has? He could declare martial law and go seize all these dominion machines and ballots and audit them on LIVE TV... or show these damning videos live at a press conference.. if he actually really had any irrefutable evidence.

“This isn’t social media, this is Trump media”...
12   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 3, 11:29pm  

“I’m just telling you Ryan.. they are shredding ballots and that’s so illegal”...

“What about that batch of military ballots that went 100% Biden?” Do you know about that?!”...

crickets..

How does the fucking president not have this information on his fucking desk the day he asked for it? Why is he reading some claim on gateway pundit and asking if it’s real like a ordinary fucking citizen?

Why did he golf all christmas instead of flying in and personally checking out this shit in person?

I will tell you why... it’s cause it’s all bullshit.
13   richwicks   2021 Jan 3, 11:34pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
“This isn’t social media, this is Trump media”...


You may be misinterpreting this I think.

Trump has an intelligence organization behind him, always has before he even entered politics - it was just private then.

Consider all the "crazy claims" Trump has made over the years. "Obama was spying on me" - true. "Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians!" - true. "Russiagate is a hoax" - true. "Hydroxychloroquine may be effective against coronavirus" - true.

What has Trump said that the media denounced as "crazy" that he was actually totally wrong about? I think Trump's genius is that he's consistently underestimated by his rivals. He's routinely denounced as stupid and insane - yet he beat a 3 year attempt to remove him from office instigated by the intelligence agencies while the "news" all created propaganda for 3 years to make the flimsy case. Do you think anybody else could do that?

We'll see in 3 days.

Either Trump is screwed and doesn't have any real evidence, or Trump is trying to avoid actually pulling out real evidence and sending 1/2 the nation's "elected" officials to jail and realizes he's going to have to use something like the military to do it. If it's the 2nd case, he's trying to negotiate it so it doesn't look like a Stalin purge that might spark off a real civil war. Civil war won't last long if the military backs him.
14   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 3, 11:56pm  

richwicks says
If it's the 2nd case, he's trying to negotiate it so it doesn't look like a Stalin purge that might spark off a real civil war. Civil war won't last long if the military backs him


This is the main reason in another post I suggested selling stocks.... A) it’s all bullshit and the market reacts normally next week.... if you sold out Monday then when it’s all clear you get back In Friday without much losses

B) martial law is declared and Trump unveils his master genius plan you think he has... and markets crash as civil war and military coup is in every headline
15   richwicks   2021 Jan 4, 12:41am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
and Trump unveils his master genius plan you think he has..


Please, never think I have drawn a conclusion when I have incomplete information.

I see that either Trump is full of shit OR he's got a group of powerful people behind him as 2 possibilities. It's also possible he's just controlled opposition and this has been an elaborate play put on from the public's entertainment.

You know what I suspect? I suspect Baby Boomers will never be allowed to retire, period and I don't really know if the criminal organization that runs this country now, cares if they all die or not. People have been electing literal fascists since George H. Bush and it was obvious when George W. Bush came along - he violated the Geneva Conventions we forced the Nazis to sign, his daddy was ex-CIA head, his grandfather was working with the Nazis - Obama continued the entire thing. These people are crazy sociopaths. They don't even care if they know they're blatant criminals at this point. Yeah, so Joe Biden was selling access to his office with his son through Burisma - so what?

At this point, they don't give a shit if you know what they are now. If Trump doesn't take a stand, here's what I've learned over 20 years, the American population won't. We should have had a revolution over 10 years ago, really 20. Nobody gets angry over anything. Barely anybody has the balls to speak out about it.

It will be an interesting 10 years either way.
16   Onvacation   2021 Jan 4, 6:29am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
It’s actually pathetic

Did you vote for Biden? If so, why?
17   rocketjoe79   2021 Jan 4, 11:49am  

Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?
18   Ceffer   2021 Jan 4, 12:01pm  

Breitbart reports Raffensperger referred for treason for revealing contents of confidential Presidential conversation and recording it.
19   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 4, 1:52pm  

rocketjoe79 says
Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?


Yes and 90% of it was Trump spewing verbatim everything discussed on this site about election fraud with NOTHING new to add. And getting frustrated no one around him had found proof.
20   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 4, 2:05pm  

rocketjoe79 says
Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?


Toward the end of the call they are discussing how Brad Raffensberger's lawyer team can share the data legally with Trump's team. Apparently, Trumps team has been asking for the data access since weeks. Why is sharing the data being an issue discussed on Jan 4th when we had those voter fraud accusations since November? They should have sat down and sorted this out together as soon as those accusations were made.
21   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 4, 3:47pm  

There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
22   astronut97   2021 Jan 4, 4:54pm  

porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
23   WookieMan   2021 Jan 4, 5:22pm  

astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.

Has nothing to do with Trump. Question everything you see in the media. If you don't, you're part of the problem. Sean Hannity is a hack, so I don't believe a word he says. So is Don Lemon. It's not journalism at 90-95% of media outlets. It's opinion pieces.

I don't care if Biden is inaugurated on 1/20. Doesn't really influence my life. What I do care about is how did Joe Biden get 16M+ more votes than the anointed one Hillary? And Trump got even more votes as well in 2020. The numbers for both don't really compute. Something was 100% afoul this election cycle. You'd be putting blinders on to not acknowledge that. ~65M for Hillary and ~81M for Biden. A 20% increase. ~63M to 74M for Trump. 27M more people voted? Dems lost House seats and Biden gets 16M more votes???

Trump slowed immigration. Had Covid wipe out 200k plus people before the election, many of which were likely voters. Where did 27M more actual VOTERS come from. 27M new registrations would be history making stuff let alone people that actually voted. The likes of FB, Youtube, google, Twitter, etc. said nothing about Trump being deemed the POTUS elect while the left was having a hissy fit. You don' have to like Trump, but there are too many obvious flaws with this election.
24   Ceffer   2021 Jan 4, 6:08pm  

For the first time, Fox either 'allowed', or he did it anyway, Tucker Carlson to talk about voter fraud and he covered a pretty broad view of it in no uncertain terms.

I thought Trump was tricking Raf into forcing the MSM into discussing voter fraud instead of ignoring it, and the Tucker segment kind of confirms that. The rest of MSM are screaming denial like Mom caught Dad screwing the baby sitter over the divan, and is lying as loud and long as he can to gas light it.

Talk about flipping the script, they are calling the exercise of perfectly Constitutional procedure treason, relying on the ignorant doofishness of the idiopolous to make the script reversal play.
25   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 4, 6:13pm  

astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
You're the one making an allegation, so you have to present evidence. That's how it works. You haven't presented any evidence of anything you're asserting.
26   Patrick   2021 Jan 4, 6:54pm  

WookieMan says
Where did 27M more actual VOTERS come from. 27M new registrations would be history making stuff let alone people that actually voted.


The vote was obviously and massively fraudulent.

We do not have democracy anymore, so the government is illegitimate now, only an occupying force which we have no obligation to obey.

We need the police and the military to step in and conduct a real democratic election, this time with actual controls on who is voting and a paper trail for every vote.
27   WookieMan   2021 Jan 4, 7:20pm  

They'll just say mail in voting. There's always been mail in absentee voting. It has alway been there. Yet we get 2.5-3 cities the size of NYC and having ALL of the citizens vote? This election had ~155M votes. 66.9% of the population is registered: https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_registration

From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years? 2M over the REGISTERED voters just 2 years prior. Depending on population growth, that would have to be 95-98% voter turnout. That's simply not possible. I'm doing quick math here, but anyone saying this election was legit, is just lying to themselves. Math and data for the most part don't lie.

From 2016, you'd have to have 35-40M new registered voters and then ~90% turnout from new voters. That's simply not logical and or possible given our demographics.
28   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Jan 4, 8:17pm  

WookieMan says
From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years?


Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The numbers are not that hard to believe if you realize this country is 20% far left... 20% far right...20% who are morons and 40% people who just want to live their lives without an incessant man-child as POTUS.
29   clambo   2021 Jan 4, 8:21pm  

I hope to see Raffensberger in an orange jumpsuit helping Biden bust rocks in the hot sun.
30   FarmersWon   2021 Jan 4, 9:11pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
WookieMan says
From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years?


Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The numbers are not that hard to believe if you realize this country is 20% far left... 20% far right...20% who are morons and 40% people who just want to live their lives without an incessant man-child as POTUS.


The problem is 20% far left is hated even more.
The only solution they have is to register homeless to same address or have machines manipulate votes.
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1346271086783197185

Things are going to get tough for fraudsters once the sting operation results are made public.

Also nobody likes lefty smart asses living in parent's basements with worthless degrees and be burden on society lecturing the producers.
Their core go to method is obfuscation, But due to extreme hatred for trump, they turned the notch up to treason this election with CCP friends.
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1320741979764879360
31   WookieMan   2021 Jan 4, 9:50pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The math makes no sense historically for even high voter turnout and our population when Trump jumped 11M himself in popular vote. Then Joe another 16M after Hillary??? You can ignore that if you want. His term was a success regardless of what you think of him personally. Even if you didn't think it was a success, there's zero chance 27M MORE people voted this round. It is a statistical impossibility. We also had a couple hundred thousand early deaths prior to the election of voting aged people. You're saying from 2018, 27M more people registered and/or decided to vote. No. Didn't happen. Never has and didn't

I'm convinced they just took registered voters that registered through updating their drivers license or something like that, but never voted in their life. Printed the ballots and dropped them in the mail. What mechanism is there to prove that didn't happen? All it would take is one person in highly Democratic counties/precincts to do this. Voter fraud is extremely easy, yet very hard to prove.

Hate Trump the person all you want. Our next 4 years are going to be dead. We will see a recession at some point. As tax cuts expire it takes anywhere from 1-4% from the middle class across the board. You know, the people that spend money. That $3-4k from a family making $100k. Maybe they cut a vacation because of that? Even if the Dems get the Senate, Biden won't be able to pass any major legislation. Dems lost House seats and swing district members are going to be super cautious until 2022.

Biden being POTUS was the worst possible outcome of this election. There's no disputing that. It's going to be worse than Obama's last 4 years. Basically stagnant in real terms.
32   Ceffer   2021 Jan 4, 10:27pm  

I'm wondering if something is up and the shadow puppeteers have decided to throw Biden under the bus and ratline out. Fox, including Tucker and a couple of others like Hannity, have come out guns blazing about election fraud after being censored purposely for months.

YouTube, which under every political video had banners stating that Biden was fairly elected and he is President-elect, has dropped their propaganda banners for all the videos I have seen tonite. They also seem to have stopped blipping the word fraud.

Does this mean they are going leave the crooked, bribed governors and SOS twisting in the wind to take the heat?

Hmmmmmm????
33   Ceffer   2021 Jan 4, 11:55pm  

Oops! You Tube banners back after disappearing for a while:

"U.S. elections
The Electoral College has confirmed Joe Biden as president-elect.
States certify results after ensuring ballots are properly counted and correcting irregularities and errors. Learn more "

BooSheeyatttt!
34   Onvacation   2021 Jan 5, 6:43am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
vote against the prick

Who did you vote against Trump for?
35   astronut97   2021 Jan 5, 9:45am  

porkchopexpress says
astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
You're the one making an allegation, so you have to present evidence. That's how it works. You haven't presented any evidence of anything you're asserting.
Did you not see him make a claim first? I asked him to back up his claim as it is obviously false.
36   richwicks   2021 Jan 5, 9:57am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop.


Jesus, is that why people voted against the first man in 40 years not to start a new stupid fucking war? Because they're retarded and are such mental midgets that they "don't like the sound of his voice"?

Doesn't really matter, we just had a coup d'état. This nation didn't just elect a senile old man with the largest % of voters ever, with the least number counties ever. That's OFFICIALLY what happened.
37   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 5, 9:57am  

Onvacation says
BoomAndBustCycle says
vote against the prick

Who did you vote against Trump for?


Chyna Joe of course! His voice is so pleasant!
38   richwicks   2021 Jan 5, 10:03am  

Eric Holder says
Chyna Joe of course! His voice is so pleasant!


Yes, somebody that will finally not "embarrass" the United States:

www.youtube.com/embed/AeRIByWjdnE

And if anybody thinks that is being taken out of context, here's the full video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihV9yrZRHg

You might want to turn annotations on, so you can verify "did he just actually say that??" - the answer is yes. He's apparently Vice President of Biden as well. And to think, they spent a year trying to argue Trump had to be removed from office because he was mentally unfit.
39   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 5, 10:18am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
He could declare martial law


Is this what you believe? LOL.
40   WookieMan   2021 Jan 5, 10:34am  

Eric Holder says
BoomAndBustCycle says
He could declare martial law


Is this what you believe? LOL.

I think people actually do believe that. The left that is. They know Joe isn't strong. That said, I think we're nearing the point where Trump just trolls him on the way out and disrespects him in front of the Nation on 1/20 and everyday for 4 years.

He seems to want what is best for the country, but at some point I feel like he wants to get back into business, use his new contacts and leverage to create a business and Presidential legacy. Maybe hand the political torch over to Don Jr. He's a carbon copy of his dad, but seems to be a better speaker. The funniest part is there will be a Presidential Donald J Trump Library somewhere in this country. Intrigued where it will go, lol.

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