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Raffensperger With Lawyer Lies Directly To Trump And Thinks Leaking To Washington Post Will Save Him

By Ceffer follow Ceffer   2021 Jan 3, 4:02pm 765 views   52 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    




WaPo tried to make it look like Trump was extorting votes with editing, but couldn't quite mask the transparent lies of Georgia SOS. Trump was ever conciliatory because he is a negotiator, but he cornered creep with kindness before laying the boom that he and his lawyers are criminals.

Raffensperger must believe that the MSM fake news press mills have magic charms that will protect him. He just exposed himself again as a treasonous liar.

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13   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 3, 11:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
“This isn’t social media, this is Trump media”...


You may be misinterpreting this I think.

Trump has an intelligence organization behind him, always has before he even entered politics - it was just private then.

Consider all the "crazy claims" Trump has made over the years. "Obama was spying on me" - true. "Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians!" - true. "Russiagate is a hoax" - true. "Hydroxychloroquine may be effective against coronavirus" - true.

What has Trump said that the media denounced as "crazy" that he was actually totally wrong about? I think Trump's genius is that he's consistently underestimated by his rivals. He's routinely denounced as stupid and insane - yet he beat a 3 year attempt to remove him from office instigated by the intelligence agencies while the "news" all created propaganda for 3 years to make the flimsy case. Do you think anybody else could do that?

We'll see in 3 days.

Either Trump is screwed and doesn't have any real evidence, or Trump is trying to avoid actually pulling out real evidence and sending 1/2 the nation's "elected" officials to jail and realizes he's going to have to use something like the military to do it. If it's the 2nd case, he's trying to negotiate it so it doesn't look like a Stalin purge that might spark off a real civil war. Civil war won't last long if the military backs him.
14   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 3, 11:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
If it's the 2nd case, he's trying to negotiate it so it doesn't look like a Stalin purge that might spark off a real civil war. Civil war won't last long if the military backs him


This is the main reason in another post I suggested selling stocks.... A) it’s all bullshit and the market reacts normally next week.... if you sold out Monday then when it’s all clear you get back In Friday without much losses

B) martial law is declared and Trump unveils his master genius plan you think he has... and markets crash as civil war and military coup is in every headline
15   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 4, 12:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
and Trump unveils his master genius plan you think he has..


Please, never think I have drawn a conclusion when I have incomplete information.

I see that either Trump is full of shit OR he's got a group of powerful people behind him as 2 possibilities. It's also possible he's just controlled opposition and this has been an elaborate play put on from the public's entertainment.

You know what I suspect? I suspect Baby Boomers will never be allowed to retire, period and I don't really know if the criminal organization that runs this country now, cares if they all die or not. People have been electing literal fascists since George H. Bush and it was obvious when George W. Bush came along - he violated the Geneva Conventions we forced the Nazis to sign, his daddy was ex-CIA head, his grandfather was working with the Nazis - Obama continued the entire thing. These people are crazy sociopaths. They don't even care if they know they're blatant criminals at this point. Yeah, so Joe Biden was selling access to his office with his son through Burisma - so what?

At this point, they don't give a shit if you know what they are now. If Trump doesn't take a stand, here's what I've learned over 20 years, the American population won't. We should have had a revolution over 10 years ago, really 20. Nobody gets angry over anything. Barely anybody has the balls to speak out about it.

It will be an interesting 10 years either way.
16   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 4, 6:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
It’s actually pathetic

Did you vote for Biden? If so, why?
17   rocketjoe79   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 4, 11:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?
18   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 4, 11:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rocketjoe79 says
Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?


Why? Libs want the narrative to be 100% fictitious bullshit anyway. Can't have reality dictate otherwise. Bad for their clickbait revenue.
19   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 12:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Breitbart reports Raffensperger referred for treason for revealing contents of confidential Presidential conversation and recording it.
20   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 4, 1:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rocketjoe79 says
Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?


Yes and 90% of it was Trump spewing verbatim everything discussed on this site about election fraud with NOTHING new to add. And getting frustrated no one around him had found proof.
21   G36   ignore (8)   2021 Jan 4, 2:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rocketjoe79 says
Did anyone commenting actually LISTEN to the whole hour call?


Toward the end of the call they are discussing how Brad Raffensberger's lawyer team can share the data legally with Trump's team. Apparently, Trumps team has been asking for the data access since weeks. Why is sharing the data being an issue discussed on Jan 4th when we had those voter fraud accusations since November? They should have sat down and sorted this out together as soon as those accusations were made.
22   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 4, 3:47pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
23   astronut97   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 4, 4:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
24   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 5:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.

Has nothing to do with Trump. Question everything you see in the media. If you don't, you're part of the problem. Sean Hannity is a hack, so I don't believe a word he says. So is Don Lemon. It's not journalism at 90-95% of media outlets. It's opinion pieces.

I don't care if Biden is inaugurated on 1/20. Doesn't really influence my life. What I do care about is how did Joe Biden get 16M+ more votes than the anointed one Hillary? And Trump got even more votes as well in 2020. The numbers for both don't really compute. Something was 100% afoul this election cycle. You'd be putting blinders on to not acknowledge that. ~65M for Hillary and ~81M for Biden. A 20% increase. ~63M to 74M for Trump. 27M more people voted? Dems lost House seats and Biden gets 16M more votes???

Trump slowed immigration. Had Covid wipe out 200k plus people before the election, many of which were likely voters. Where did 27M more actual VOTERS come from. 27M new registrations would be history making stuff let alone people that actually voted. The likes of FB, Youtube, google, Twitter, etc. said nothing about Trump being deemed the POTUS elect while the left was having a hissy fit. You don' have to like Trump, but there are too many obvious flaws with this election.
25   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 6:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

For the first time, Fox either 'allowed', or he did it anyway, Tucker Carlson to talk about voter fraud and he covered a pretty broad view of it in no uncertain terms.

I thought Trump was tricking Raf into forcing the MSM into discussing voter fraud instead of ignoring it, and the Tucker segment kind of confirms that. The rest of MSM are screaming denial like Mom caught Dad screwing the baby sitter over the divan, and is lying as loud and long as he can to gas light it.

Talk about flipping the script, they are calling the exercise of perfectly Constitutional procedure treason, relying on the ignorant doofishness of the idiopolous to make the script reversal play.
26   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 4, 6:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
You're the one making an allegation, so you have to present evidence. That's how it works. You haven't presented any evidence of anything you're asserting.
27   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 4, 6:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Where did 27M more actual VOTERS come from. 27M new registrations would be history making stuff let alone people that actually voted.


The vote was obviously and massively fraudulent.

We do not have democracy anymore, so the government is illegitimate now, only an occupying force which we have no obligation to obey.

We need the police and the military to step in and conduct a real democratic election, this time with actual controls on who is voting and a paper trail for every vote.
28   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 7:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They'll just say mail in voting. There's always been mail in absentee voting. It has alway been there. Yet we get 2.5-3 cities the size of NYC and having ALL of the citizens vote? This election had ~155M votes. 66.9% of the population is registered: https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_registration

From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years? 2M over the REGISTERED voters just 2 years prior. Depending on population growth, that would have to be 95-98% voter turnout. That's simply not possible. I'm doing quick math here, but anyone saying this election was legit, is just lying to themselves. Math and data for the most part don't lie.

From 2016, you'd have to have 35-40M new registered voters and then ~90% turnout from new voters. That's simply not logical and or possible given our demographics.
29   BoomAndBustCycle   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 4, 8:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years?


Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The numbers are not that hard to believe if you realize this country is 20% far left... 20% far right...20% who are morons and 40% people who just want to live their lives without an incessant man-child as POTUS.
30   clambo   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 4, 8:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I hope to see Raffensberger in an orange jumpsuit helping Biden bust rocks in the hot sun.
31   election2020   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 9:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
WookieMan says
From that link, 2018 had 153M registered voters TOTAL. How in the flying fuck do we get to ~155M voting for Trump or Biden combined in two years?


Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The numbers are not that hard to believe if you realize this country is 20% far left... 20% far right...20% who are morons and 40% people who just want to live their lives without an incessant man-child as POTUS.


The problem is 20% far left is hated even more.
The only solution they have is to register homeless to same address or have machines manipulate votes.
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1346271086783197185

Things are going to get tough for fraudsters once the sting operation results are made public.

Also nobody likes lefty smart asses living in parent's basements with worthless degrees and be burden on society lecturing the producers.
Their core go to method is obfuscation, But due to extreme hatred for trump, they turned the notch up to treason this election with CCP friends.
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1320741979764879360
32   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 9:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop. Trump’s voice is literal torture to 50% of the population ? Why can’t you get that?

The math makes no sense historically for even high voter turnout and our population when Trump jumped 11M himself in popular vote. Then Joe another 16M after Hillary??? You can ignore that if you want. His term was a success regardless of what you think of him personally. Even if you didn't think it was a success, there's zero chance 27M MORE people voted this round. It is a statistical impossibility. We also had a couple hundred thousand early deaths prior to the election of voting aged people. You're saying from 2018, 27M more people registered and/or decided to vote. No. Didn't happen. Never has and didn't

I'm convinced they just took registered voters that registered through updating their drivers license or something like that, but never voted in their life. Printed the ballots and dropped them in the mail. What mechanism is there to prove that didn't happen? All it would take is one person in highly Democratic counties/precincts to do this. Voter fraud is extremely easy, yet very hard to prove.

Hate Trump the person all you want. Our next 4 years are going to be dead. We will see a recession at some point. As tax cuts expire it takes anywhere from 1-4% from the middle class across the board. You know, the people that spend money. That $3-4k from a family making $100k. Maybe they cut a vacation because of that? Even if the Dems get the Senate, Biden won't be able to pass any major legislation. Dems lost House seats and swing district members are going to be super cautious until 2022.

Biden being POTUS was the worst possible outcome of this election. There's no disputing that. It's going to be worse than Obama's last 4 years. Basically stagnant in real terms.
33   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 10:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'm wondering if something is up and the shadow puppeteers have decided to throw Biden under the bus and ratline out. Fox, including Tucker and a couple of others like Hannity, have come out guns blazing about election fraud after being censored purposely for months.

YouTube, which under every political video had banners stating that Biden was fairly elected and he is President-elect, has dropped their propaganda banners for all the videos I have seen tonite. They also seem to have stopped blipping the word fraud.

Does this mean they are going leave the crooked, bribed governors and SOS twisting in the wind to take the heat?

Hmmmmmm????
34   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 4, 11:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Oops! You Tube banners back after disappearing for a while:

"U.S. elections
The Electoral College has confirmed Joe Biden as president-elect.
States certify results after ensuring ballots are properly counted and correcting irregularities and errors. Learn more "

BooSheeyatttt!
35   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 5, 6:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
vote against the prick

Who did you vote against Trump for?
36   astronut97   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 5, 9:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

porkchopexpress says
astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.
You're the one making an allegation, so you have to present evidence. That's how it works. You haven't presented any evidence of anything you're asserting.
Did you not see him make a claim first? I asked him to back up his claim as it is obviously false.
37   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 5, 9:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
Put 100 people in a room with Trumps obnoxious voice and tweets for 4 years and I guarantee you 7% of those non-registered voters register and vote against the prick to make the noise stop.


Jesus, is that why people voted against the first man in 40 years not to start a new stupid fucking war? Because they're retarded and are such mental midgets that they "don't like the sound of his voice"?

Doesn't really matter, we just had a coup d'état. This nation didn't just elect a senile old man with the largest % of voters ever, with the least number counties ever. That's OFFICIALLY what happened.
38   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 5, 9:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
BoomAndBustCycle says
vote against the prick

Who did you vote against Trump for?


Chyna Joe of course! His voice is so pleasant!
39   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 5, 10:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
Chyna Joe of course! His voice is so pleasant!


Yes, somebody that will finally not "embarrass" the United States:



And if anybody thinks that is being taken out of context, here's the full video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihV9yrZRHg

You might want to turn annotations on, so you can verify "did he just actually say that??" - the answer is yes. He's apparently Vice President of Biden as well. And to think, they spent a year trying to argue Trump had to be removed from office because he was mentally unfit.
40   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 5, 10:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BoomAndBustCycle says
He could declare martial law


Is this what you believe? LOL.
41   WookieMan   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 5, 10:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
BoomAndBustCycle says
He could declare martial law


Is this what you believe? LOL.

I think people actually do believe that. The left that is. They know Joe isn't strong. That said, I think we're nearing the point where Trump just trolls him on the way out and disrespects him in front of the Nation on 1/20 and everyday for 4 years.

He seems to want what is best for the country, but at some point I feel like he wants to get back into business, use his new contacts and leverage to create a business and Presidential legacy. Maybe hand the political torch over to Don Jr. He's a carbon copy of his dad, but seems to be a better speaker. The funniest part is there will be a Presidential Donald J Trump Library somewhere in this country. Intrigued where it will go, lol.
42   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2021 Jan 5, 11:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Another problem is that Trump won the majority of the White Vote, the majority of the suburban vote, gained ground with Blacks and Latinos and Jews and Asians, but STILL lost?

On top of that, the urban vote was actually down or the same outside of Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Pittsburg. The exact same places where huge numbers came out suddenly for Biden, and by San Francisco margins after 11PM.
43   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2021 Jan 5, 11:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I also suspect that NYS and some other blue states were rigged a bit too. Y'all remember that Rhode Island was also leaning Trump until late Election Day night?
44   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 5, 12:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
Another problem is that Trump won the majority of the White Vote, the majority of the suburban vote, gained ground with Blacks and Latinos and Jews and Asians, but STILL lost?

On top of that, the urban vote was actually down or the same outside of Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Pittsburg. The exact same places where huge numbers came out suddenly for Biden, and by San Francisco margins after 11PM.


GOP needs to up their vote rigging game ASAP. If cheating is the SOP now, let's fucking cheat better!
45   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2021 Jan 5, 12:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      




Full phone call.
46   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 5, 12:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

California has been rigged for years now, that is clear. California actually has a reasonable history of electing sane, intelligent and civic minded politicians in spite of the lefty leanings and public service union corruption, not the ludicrous Soros clowns, mayors and DA's that have crawled and creeped into office.
47   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2021 Jan 5, 1:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Listened to most of the phone call

"What a schmuck I was. What a schmuck I was to support Kemp."

He ripped Brad Raffensperger the whole way through.
48   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.


@astronut97

He's making fun of the Democrats claiming everything is debunked, even when it isn't. When video surfaced in a meeting to review fraud in Georgia - of the ballots being pulled from under the table in Fulton County, a Democrat woman claimed the video had been already debunked. Well - that was the first time the video had ever been shown, so how exactly could it have been debunked? The woman got a little hysterical when she realized she was caught in a blatant lie.

The claim made, constantly, is anything that goes against "official narrative" that is evidence - well, that's been "debunked", but by whom? Nobody, they just lie about it. That's the talking point now, EVERYTHING is debunked. Find evidence of something criminal withing out establishment, standard response is "that's been debunked".

The best thing about the Trump presidency is you can see who is brainwashed easily and who isn't.
49   astronut97   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 6, 11:02am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
astronut97 says
porkchopexpress says
There's no evidence this alleged phone call ever took place. This has been debunked many times already.
That's a flat out lie, but to be expected from a Trumpite. Please present your evidence if you think this has been debunked.


@astronut97

He's making fun of the Democrats claiming everything is debunked, even when it isn't. When video surfaced in a meeting to review fraud in Georgia - of the ballots being pulled from under the table in Fulton County, a Democrat woman claimed the video had been already debunked. Well - that was the first time the video had ever been shown, so how exactly could it have been debunked? The woman got a little hysterical when she realized she was caught in a blatant lie.

The claim made, constantly, is anything that goes against "...
Yes we can see who's been brainwashed and it's the cult of Trump. There has been no evidence of widescale election fraud anywhere this election except for the fraud of Trump and his followers attempting to (badly by the way) steal the election.
50   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 11:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

astronut97 says
Yes we can see who's been brainwashed and it's the cult of Trump. There has been no evidence of widescale election fraud anywhere this election


Here:



Start at 12:10

It doesn't matter WHAT is presented. It's not covered in our "news" and it's banned from Facebook and Twitter. Youtube no longer deletes videos, they hide them instead, so you can only find out about them through word of mouth. If you know PRECISELY what you're looking for, then, and ONLY then can you find it.

I've lived with Neocon warmongers for 16 years under George W. Bush and Barack Obama. I can get through 4 years of President Harris, but after today - elections are meaningless and the only way to get the US federal government to represent the public, is through bloodshed. It's a pivotal point.

You are defending the "election" of a man, that sided with George W. Bush to lie us into a war - ONLY because he's "a democrat". Supposedly, the most popular presidential candidate in all of history, that won with the least number of counties as a percentage of all of history, when poll watchers were thrown out, where all the swing states closed their balloting in the middle of the night, and all of them had tremendous spikes the next morning. And you're like - engh, nothing suspicious about that!

You see, after today, it's clear that the swamp and the government mean the same fucking thing. There is no difference.
51   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 6, 11:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
astronut97 says
Yes we can see who's been brainwashed and it's the cult of Trump. There has been no evidence of widescale election fraud anywhere this election


Here


Don't waste your time: the "astroturf" dude is pretty much a 5-line Perl script, programmed to squack "no evidence! deboonked!" in every thread.
52   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 11:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
Don't waste your time: the "astroturf" dude is pretty much a 5-line Perl script, programmed to squack "no evidence! deboonked!" in every thread.


Hmm, you're right: https://www.patrick.net/comments?a=astronut97

Well - it's Patrick's site, but it's odd that there's a propagandist on here. Should have known with the name astroturf.

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