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2020 Dec 29, 10:30pm   1,893 views  60 comments

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Seven contested states with dual electors sent. (Edit: dual elector ballots sent, thank you Trumping Tits).

If Pence receives majority votes from the state legislatures about which elector slate they want, enter them as voted by the state legislatures and ignore the Governor/Secretary of State slates based on election fraud? That would theoretically be legal by the Constitution because the state legislatures hold the power in their states?

Should Pence throw out all electors from contested states who sent dual slates of electors, giving neither candidate 270 and refer the matter to election in the House?

Should Pence only throw out electors from states where the legislatures have failed to vote on a slate and if neither candidate gets 270, then bounce it to the House?

Should Pence accept massive bribe and move to non-extraditable country?

Will we be witness to Pence's Epstein tapes on the Senate floor?

Should Pence pull out a Rosco and eliminate Trump, Biden and Kamala and crown himself the Emperor of the Universe?

inquiring minds need to know.

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1   GreaterNYCDude   2020 Dec 30, 6:28am  

This is a big nothing burger. There will be some wailing and nashing of teeth by a minority of Republicans, and I expect some states will be contested by both chambers, but most will sit on their hands when it comes to the vote; letting the electors sent by the governers stand, and not adopting the alternate slate(s).

Pence will be his normal stoic self, Biden will be declared the winner, Trump will go on a Twitter rampage, and life will go on.

What some think Pence should do and what he will do are two different things.
2   Onvacation   2020 Dec 30, 7:29am  

January 6 decides if we are a democratic or banana republic.
3   Tenpoundbass   2020 Dec 30, 7:41am  

Onvacation says
January 6 decides if we are a democratic or banana republic


May the best Dictator Win!
4   rocketjoe79   2020 Dec 30, 1:12pm  

GreaterNYCDudeIsLookingForAJob says
This is a big nothing burger. There will be some wailing and gnashing of teeth by a minority of Republicans, and I expect some states will be contested by both chambers, but most will sit on their hands when it comes to the vote; letting the electors sent by the governers stand, and not adopting the alternate slate(s).

Pence will be his normal stoic self, Biden will be declared the winner, Trump will go on a Twitter rampage, and life will go on.

What some think Pence should do and what he will do are two different things.


Sadly, this will be the state of affairs, barring a miracle Hail Mary from the Supes. We have had four years of mostly excellent policy changes, Peace in the Middle East, Decoupling with China, Space Exploration, Tax relief, Job and Economic growth, and so on. These will almost all be reversed in the first 6 months. Then Biden will "go away" due to "medical reasons", leaving Kamala to enact bozo leftist policies. Which will be mostly denied by the Conservative supreme court, it'll take a year for every boneheaded move she makes. By then, an economic downturn is likely as businesses are beatdown by ineffective Corona Lockdowns. This will allow the Global elites to reset their portfolios while workingman 401k's are decimated. It's all part of the proscribed cycle.
5   Onvacation   2020 Dec 30, 2:36pm  

It's amazing that more people voted in 2020 than were registered in 2016!
6   richwicks   2020 Dec 30, 3:50pm  

Onvacation says
January 6 decides if we are a democratic or banana republic.


Haha, we've been in a banana republic since George W. Bush lied the nation into a war in Iraq. That was the end, RIGHT THERE. This nation went to go off to kill people with a president that blatantly lied them into a war. Since that time, truth no longer mattered.

That was the end of the nation, not 2020. Trump was an attempt at a revival. I could see this happening, hoped that Ron Paul would save us from it back in 2008 but when I saw him undermined I just gave up. Thought maybe Bernie Sanders could have even done it in 2016 (I didn't think Trump had a chance) but I saw his nomination stolen from him.

Trump got in by a FLUKE. He was indeed elected, but there wasn't enough cheating to get Clinton in. Everybody remember when Jill Stein was going around looking at election fraud and it was the DEMOCRATS that opposed it? That's because she was uncovering plenty of election fraud - in favor of Hillary Clinton.

If we hung George W. Bush for murdering 100,000 people (at least) over lies, thing would be different. But we didn't. We are a nation entirely controlled by the intelligence agencies and secret police now. You have to be a moral nation to be a democratic nation, and we ceased being one March 20, 2003. That was the last gasp of this nation.
7   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Dec 30, 4:33pm  

Pretty sure most Republicans will cower out. They’ve been doing that for last few month, hiding under the table hoping for this to pass.

But I’m holding hope. Because the army is rolling into DC, fucking mayor pressuring hotels to close because ultra faggot.
8   just_passing_through   2020 Dec 30, 6:19pm  

I hear Pence already said no he's not going to do that and it's bullshit even if possible. Just something Scott Adams said today, dunno if it's true.
9   FarmersWon   2020 Dec 30, 7:32pm  

I think there is "Go Big or Go broke" plan from Trump.
The other minor probability is he is just grifter and negotiating better terms for himself.

All trump tweets clearly say there is fraud. If there was a fraud , It would be hard to make him leave without proper investigation of fraud and conclusive refuting of his charges.

I am bit intrigued by Lin Wood, Trump's ally and lawyer.
He is baiting very powerful people like Bill Gates,Governors and Chief justice to sue him. Calling them CCP traitors and pedos.
I am sure he is doing with some backing from powerful people and have the goods.
10   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 30, 7:33pm  

I think the only way Jan 6th works for Trump is if some serious shit gets exposed between now and then. A lot is happening in PA, GA and AZ, so legislators may make some big decisions in the next week.
11   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 30, 7:34pm  

election2020 says
I think there is "Go Big or Go broke" plan from Trump.
The other minor probability is he is just grifter and negotiating better terms for himself.

All trump tweets clearly say there is fraud. If there was a fraud , It would be hard to make him leave without proper investigation of fraud and conclusive refuting of his charges.

I am bit intrigued by Lin Wood, Trump's ally and lawyer.
He is baiting very powerful people like Bill Gates,Governors and Chief justice to sue him. Calling them CCP traitors and pedos.
I am sure he is doing with some backing from powerful people and have the goods.
There's a theory that secret information is being declassified by Trump and fed to both Sidney and Lin, which is why Lin (top defamation lawyer) is being so brazen.
12   FarmersWon   2020 Dec 30, 7:35pm  

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1344392157797339136
The Georgia official is almost ready to cry as he is seeing prison cell.
13   FarmersWon   2020 Dec 30, 7:38pm  

porkchopexpress says
election2020 says
I think there is "Go Big or Go broke" plan from Trump.
The other minor probability is he is just grifter and negotiating better terms for himself.

All trump tweets clearly say there is fraud. If there was a fraud , It would be hard to make him leave without proper investigation of fraud and conclusive refuting of his charges.

I am bit intrigued by Lin Wood, Trump's ally and lawyer.
He is baiting very powerful people like Bill Gates,Governors and Chief justice to sue him. Calling them CCP traitors and pedos.
I am sure he is doing with some backing from powerful people and have the goods.
There's a theory that secret information is being declassified by Trump and fed to both Sidney and Lin, which is why Lin (top defamation lawyer) is being so brazen.


I hope you are right. These morons have made our country banana republic.
China is toying us like we are slaves especially the COVID fearmongering and destroying manufacturing jobs for middle America.
14   PeopleUnited   2020 Dec 30, 7:48pm  

richwicks says
Haha, we've been in a banana republic since George W. Bush lied the nation into a war in Iraq


What about the lies about the Gulf of Tonkin?

The lies about how the US provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor by sanctioning Japan/embargoing them?

The lies have been used to bleed Americans literally and fiscally for as long as we have had a standing army.

And don’t forget that Congress authorized the Iraq war and media and MIC applauded it.
15   FarmersWon   2020 Dec 30, 7:53pm  

https://sites.google.com/site/dicereaudiaturetalterapars/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia

This is very dark conspiracy theory to enslave the world. I am not sure How much believable it is, But The events of last few months makes me suspect it.
Are we all played for "usury"?
Are there really Satan worshiping people in world?
16   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Dec 30, 8:07pm  

porkchopexpress says
I think the only way Jan 6th works for Trump is if some serious shit gets exposed between now and then. A lot is happening in PA, GA and AZ, so legislators may make some big decisions in the next week.


A lot did, but got censored off media. A lot of Ukraine theft came out about Biden. Not a peep here.
17   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 30, 8:39pm  

But they sent two sets of votes for 7 states I believe
18   just_passing_through   2020 Dec 30, 10:09pm  

TrumpingTits says
This happened before in the late 19th century with Florida.


Thomas Jefferson in a similar position to Pence (if Pence were running for President) did what we all hope Pence would do and counted electors ballots in his own favor hence becoming president.

Not that I think that's in the cards... Just sayin...
19   Ceffer   2020 Dec 30, 10:17pm  

Dual elector ballots sent from seven states. Oddly, New Mexico included dual ballots on its own. Nobody even argued about New Mexico as being contested. I wondered what exactly was going on there.

The only non-controversy (aka cover up) about the election is with the MSM. Foreign countries are protesting about the stolen election, including groups in Canada.

I am incredibly impressed that the MSM is entirely enslaved on these issues and reeking with lies and false narratives. Scary shit.

Thank you, Thomas Jefferson, for establishing a precedent, even in a situation where self dealing wasn't even hidden.
20   richwicks   2020 Dec 30, 10:34pm  

I will bet 10:1 that Pence is just a cocksocker and will accept the votes.

I offer $1000 cash to win $100. Put up $100, and you will win $1000.

This is a demonstration of how I have no faith in the government, and I'd be happy to lose. I have zero faith in the integrity of our elections or our government.
21   Patrick   2020 Dec 31, 6:18pm  

Onvacation says
It's amazing that more people voted in 2020 than were registered in 2016!


More people vote in 2020 than were registered in 2020 as well!
22   Patrick   2020 Dec 31, 6:21pm  

porkchopexpress says
But they sent two sets of votes for 7 states I believe


Got a link for that? A quick search didn't find them. And on what date were the sets of votes sent?
23   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 31, 6:25pm  

Patrick says
porkchopexpress says
But they sent two sets of votes for 7 states I believe


Got a link for that? A quick search didn't find them. And on what date were the sets of votes sent?
https://www.newsweek.com/lou-dobbs-says-7-states-chose-electors-both-candidates-trump-could-still-win-1555054
24   Patrick   2020 Dec 31, 7:23pm  

Thanks!

Dobbs claimed that seven states—Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico—had chosen electors for both Trump and President-elect Joe Biden.

"If the House and the Senate cannot agree on which electors to accept," Dobbs said, "an untested constitutional procedure could result in each state being given one vote which they could allocate to either Biden or Trump. And since the Republicans hold 26 of the 50 State houses, there would exist at least the mathematical possibility that President Trump could be named the constitutionally elected president."
25   Dholliday126   2020 Dec 31, 7:31pm  

He'll cuck
26   Ceffer   2020 Dec 31, 11:14pm  

I think with my fallible prognosticator that Pence will defer to the elector ballots from the legislatures rather than the Governors and Sec.s of State. Maybe 50/50 on that front. That would short circuit the congressional debates over contested electors? Of course, maybe Trump WANTS the congressional debates to present evidence to the public that has been muzzled by MSM et alia.

Florida Bush vs. Gore, when SCOTUS had some guts, the matter was referred back to the state legislature to deem the elector ballots, at which time Gore conceded. One would presume that the SCOTUS at that time was pointing to the elector slate picked by the legislature as being the Constitutional route. Governors and Sec.s of State are formalities, not the ultimate electoral powers. As we have seen, the whole charade of 'certification' has merely become part of the corruption aka the lipstick on the pig, purely for show rather than any reflection of meaningful content.

If the debates over contested electors allow Trump's evidence presentation, then Trump may simply use the forum to communicate as much as he can to American public around the censorships of the MSM and the social media platforms. Supposedly, due to the Pravda/Tass information lockdowns, as much as 40 percent of the population still have no idea that anybody has challenged the election at all (hard to believe, but oh well). All is good with them, the elections were the most secure and fair in history, and Beijing Joe got all of those votes fair and square. Of course, there are all the co-conspirators who know the election was fraudulent, but just go along with it because they view it as serving their interests (whores and apparatchiks).

At that point, Trump may actually use the deliberations to finally launch the Presidential Order on foreign interference from 2018. That would be pretty cool, especially if the Insurrection Act follows. Military arresting and removing members of Congress on live TV would be cool, but perhaps too much to pray for.

Ted Cruz, who has gone up against Trump and lost, said that Trump is unpredictable. Trump wears a perfect poker face, and then does something out of left field that seems unconventional, but ultimately succeeds. So, I suppose we'll have to wait to see what Trump pulls out of the hat.
27   just_passing_through   2021 Jan 1, 11:17am  

Ceffer says
Military arresting and removing members of Congress on live TV would be cool


Extraspecially if it were in Saddam 'purge' style.
28   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Jan 1, 12:28pm  

Dholliday126 says
He'll cuck


We are going to DC so that cucking out is a life threatening choice.
29   Ceffer   2021 Jan 1, 1:21pm  

I suppose the question is how is Pence co-ordinating with POTUS? If he likes being vice president, then he could vote in his own interests as Jefferson voted for his own interests, especially if Pence wants to run for POTUS in four years.
30   HeadSet   2021 Jan 1, 5:14pm  

Ceffer says
if Pence wants to run for POTUS in four years.


Pence will not be the nominee in 2024, too bland. He would be beat out by Nikki Haley or maybe even Tulsi Gabbard if Tulsi would switch parties.
31   richwicks   2021 Jan 1, 5:44pm  

Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost. She's a Neocon that pushed the bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine, and is an aggressor, as we build bases to surround Russia and expand NATO onto their boarders. She pushed the nonsense that the Skripals were poisoned by Novichok. She's the Republican version of Adam Schiff. Un principles, dishonest, will readily promote propaganda. A criminal, untouchable, without conscience or ethics.

There is zero difference between her and Joe Biden. Just as there was no difference between Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, or Al Gore. If Trump went through 4 years of fucking hell just to have people elect yet another Neocon in sheeps clothing, he truly wasted his time at great personal expense, and he should never have run at all.

If Haley is even nominated in 2024, it was a total waste of time. It's at this point I switch sides, and just become an opportunity, because really, people are just a bunch of fucking animals. If you cannot be taught, fine, we'll just eat you.
32   RWSGFY   2021 Jan 1, 5:52pm  

richwicks says
bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine


It's a fact.
33   HeadSet   2021 Jan 1, 5:56pm  

richwicks says
Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost.


Who would you like to see nominated? Not sure if we can find another Trump - a billionaire who loves America first and has the wealth and hot women to be bribe and honey pot proof. Maybe after seeing Trump, another presently unknown but spoiling for a fight billionaire will emerge.
34   richwicks   2021 Jan 1, 6:58pm  

FuckCCP89 says
richwicks says
bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine


It's a fact.


Will you motherfuckers PLEASE talk to Ukrainians and Russians for once instead of listening to your state propaganda?

Jesus Christ, I wasted 15 years on working on internet development, and none of you seem to have a fucking clue how to make use of it. Bypass your "news" and the talking heads and for once, TALK to the people that actually live there. They know.

We have more fucking propaganda in this country than I EVER imagined would be possible. We don't have a free press, we don't have anything other than constant, unrelenting propaganda. The whole point of setting up the Internet was so you could bypass it, if you wanted, but none of you even think to do it, much less put in the MINIMAL effort to do it. You can't even THINK to talk to a citizen of another country our nation is trashing. It doesn't even occur to you.

When you talk to these people, bite your lip and listen. You can tell them what you've been told but don't correct them, don't tell them they are wrong. Listen. Shit it's like the goddamned liberals that claim to speak for the poor that have never talked to somebody who is actually poor. The liberals dismiss the complaints and ideas of the poor, they think they know better, because they are just repeating the bullshit propaganda of other assholes they were foolish enough to listen to. You are precisely like them.

You want to know what is actually going on? You're reading this on the world's most powerful research system ever made. You can talk to anybody on the planet, a Libyan, a Syrian, an Iraqi, a Ukrainian. Takes time to find them, but it's well worth it. Nazi propaganda had NOTHING on us. Please talk to the people that your nation has declared an enemy, for fucks sake. Don't even listen to me, listen to them. I'm just 2nd hand information, hearsay, talk to them.

Thought everybody would do this by now.
35   Ceffer   2021 Jan 1, 10:30pm  

This is a funny Spanish You Tube that suggests that many pols and celebs are wearing monitoring ankle bracelets. The name of the vid translates roughly as Gitmo Christmas LOL! It suggests that all of those alleged ankle injuries like Biden's are to wear the large leg boots that disguise their monitoring bracelets.
www.youtube.com/embed/gWZTt6i5QM0
36   richwicks   2021 Jan 2, 8:12am  

HeadSet says
richwicks says
Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost.


Who would you like to see nominated? Not sure if we can find another Trump - a billionaire who loves America first and has the wealth and hot women to be bribe and honey pot proof. Maybe after seeing Trump, another presently unknown but spoiling for a fight billionaire will emerge.


I just don't want to see another deep state Neocon stooge in the oval office. I'd take a pile of dogshit over Nikki Haley, or Joe Biden, or any other fuck that's run for the presidential office since 1988.

The exception may have been Trump, possibly. I've gotten pretty used to these people being actors, ever since we had an actor in the White House in 1980.

www.youtube.com/embed/Af0Yei2sAbE

Something just seems unreal about our entire system. Keep electing these people to do what the whole fucking country wants to do, and yet, they just never seem to be able to accomplish it.

I have a question, do you want this country to go into another fucking war or continue any of the ones we're in? Does anybody? I can't seem to find anybody saying "yeah, I really think blowing up Yemen is a fucking fine idea!" - however, every politician APPEARS to want to do that. I'm wondering when there's going to be a mass awareness that we're not in anything APPROACHING a Democracy or a Republic and haven't been for a long damned time.

The reason nothing gets done is because government doesn't represent us at all. I wonder when society will FINALLY realize this?

Now if Nikki Haley gets the RNC nomination, well, fuck that's just like if Hillary Clinton got the nomination for the DNC (I mean if Clinton got it legitimately). It's demoralizing in the extreme to think these awful fucking people are legitimately being nominated. I'm glad Clinton and Biden stole their nominations, I'm glad Joe Biden stole the presidency - now at least I don't have to think this country is so fucking retarded they elected the senile old fuck. I'd rather have a coup with a meat puppet president, than actually legitimately elect somebody so fucking evil and worthless for this country.
37   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jan 2, 8:36am  

Could it be that Gohmert is trying to push Pence into an Obama Judge court, that will rule that Pence doesn't have the authority to toss the disputed States?
Pence realizes that if it does get to an activist Judge, they will reinterpret the 12th Amendment to say Pence is just incidental political fruit salad, and has no real official duties.

The 12th Amendment sets forth a procedure for resolving a disputed election where neither candidate achieves a majority of electoral votes. In that case, a “contingent election” is held by the House: “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote …”

Thus, if Pence were to “open” and read the electoral votes cast by both of the competing slates of electors from the six swing states, and choose “not to count” either set—in light of the conflict—the House of Representatives would immediately vote to determine the winner, with each state getting one vote. Given that a majority of states are GOP-controlled (although the Democrats control a greater number of representatives), Trump would prevail.
38   Tenpoundbass   2021 Jan 2, 8:39am  

To be clear here, other than riding the wave of other GOP house members. At no time during Trump's Administration, has Gohmert been a leading Stalwart championing the Constitutionality of the weaponized Politics against Trump. If he had, then this latest gambit would be more believable. It's not like this is Doug Collins, Matt Gaetz or Nunez filing this case.
39   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 2, 9:37am  

Tenpoundbass says
To be clear here, other than riding the wave of other GOP house members. At no time during Trump's Administration, has Gohmert been a leading Stalwart championing the Constitutionality of the weaponized Politics against Trump. If he had, then this latest gambit would be more believable. It's not like this is Doug Collins, Matt Gaetz or Nunez filing this case.
According to Gohmert he has been a victim of election fraud years ago, so this is personal to him.
40   Ceffer   2021 Jan 5, 7:56pm  

Rumors are that Pence is going to send back the ballots from the battling elector states and tell the state legislatures to do their job and elect a single slate of ballots from the legislatures, themselves. That is within the Constitution, and seems to be a reasonable strategy. That would bypass the treasonous, bribed KommieFuck governors, SOS and renegade state courts attempting to legislate the steal.

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