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Any Bets On Pence Call?

By Ceffer follow Ceffer   2020 Dec 29, 10:30pm 1,053 views   67 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Seven contested states with dual electors sent. (Edit: dual elector ballots sent, thank you Trumping Tits).

If Pence receives majority votes from the state legislatures about which elector slate they want, enter them as voted by the state legislatures and ignore the Governor/Secretary of State slates based on election fraud? That would theoretically be legal by the Constitution because the state legislatures hold the power in their states?

Should Pence throw out all electors from contested states who sent dual slates of electors, giving neither candidate 270 and refer the matter to election in the House?

Should Pence only throw out electors from states where the legislatures have failed to vote on a slate and if neither candidate gets 270, then bounce it to the House?

Should Pence accept massive bribe and move to non-extraditable country?

Will we be witness to Pence's Epstein tapes on the Senate floor?

Should Pence pull out a Rosco and eliminate Trump, Biden and Kamala and crown himself the Emperor of the Universe?

inquiring minds need to know.

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28   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2021 Jan 1, 11:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
Military arresting and removing members of Congress on live TV would be cool


Extraspecially if it were in Saddam 'purge' style.
29   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2021 Jan 1, 12:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Dholliday126 says
He'll cuck


We are going to DC so that cucking out is a life threatening choice.
30   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 1, 1:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I suppose the question is how is Pence co-ordinating with POTUS? If he likes being vice president, then he could vote in his own interests as Jefferson voted for his own interests, especially if Pence wants to run for POTUS in four years.
31   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 1, 5:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
if Pence wants to run for POTUS in four years.


Pence will not be the nominee in 2024, too bland. He would be beat out by Nikki Haley or maybe even Tulsi Gabbard if Tulsi would switch parties.
32   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 1, 5:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost. She's a Neocon that pushed the bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine, and is an aggressor, as we build bases to surround Russia and expand NATO onto their boarders. She pushed the nonsense that the Skripals were poisoned by Novichok. She's the Republican version of Adam Schiff. Un principles, dishonest, will readily promote propaganda. A criminal, untouchable, without conscience or ethics.

There is zero difference between her and Joe Biden. Just as there was no difference between Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, or Al Gore. If Trump went through 4 years of fucking hell just to have people elect yet another Neocon in sheeps clothing, he truly wasted his time at great personal expense, and he should never have run at all.

If Haley is even nominated in 2024, it was a total waste of time. It's at this point I switch sides, and just become an opportunity, because really, people are just a bunch of fucking animals. If you cannot be taught, fine, we'll just eat you.
33   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 1, 5:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine


It's a fact.
34   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 1, 5:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost.


Who would you like to see nominated? Not sure if we can find another Trump - a billionaire who loves America first and has the wealth and hot women to be bribe and honey pot proof. Maybe after seeing Trump, another presently unknown but spoiling for a fight billionaire will emerge.
35   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 1, 6:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckCCP89 says
richwicks says
bullshit that Russia invaded Crimea and Ukraine


It's a fact.


Will you motherfuckers PLEASE talk to Ukrainians and Russians for once instead of listening to your state propaganda?

Jesus Christ, I wasted 15 years on working on internet development, and none of you seem to have a fucking clue how to make use of it. Bypass your "news" and the talking heads and for once, TALK to the people that actually live there. They know.

We have more fucking propaganda in this country than I EVER imagined would be possible. We don't have a free press, we don't have anything other than constant, unrelenting propaganda. The whole point of setting up the Internet was so you could bypass it, if you wanted, but none of you even think to do it, much less put in the MINIMAL effort to do it. You can't even THINK to talk to a citizen of another country our nation is trashing. It doesn't even occur to you.

When you talk to these people, bite your lip and listen. You can tell them what you've been told but don't correct them, don't tell them they are wrong. Listen. Shit it's like the goddamned liberals that claim to speak for the poor that have never talked to somebody who is actually poor. The liberals dismiss the complaints and ideas of the poor, they think they know better, because they are just repeating the bullshit propaganda of other assholes they were foolish enough to listen to. You are precisely like them.

You want to know what is actually going on? You're reading this on the world's most powerful research system ever made. You can talk to anybody on the planet, a Libyan, a Syrian, an Iraqi, a Ukrainian. Takes time to find them, but it's well worth it. Nazi propaganda had NOTHING on us. Please talk to the people that your nation has declared an enemy, for fucks sake. Don't even listen to me, listen to them. I'm just 2nd hand information, hearsay, talk to them.

Thought everybody would do this by now.
36   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 1, 10:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This is a funny Spanish You Tube that suggests that many pols and celebs are wearing monitoring ankle bracelets. The name of the vid translates roughly as Gitmo Christmas LOL! It suggests that all of those alleged ankle injuries like Biden's are to wear the large leg boots that disguise their monitoring bracelets.
37   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 2, 8:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

HeadSet says
richwicks says
Ceffer says
He would be beat out by Nikki Haley


If Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, all is lost.


Who would you like to see nominated? Not sure if we can find another Trump - a billionaire who loves America first and has the wealth and hot women to be bribe and honey pot proof. Maybe after seeing Trump, another presently unknown but spoiling for a fight billionaire will emerge.


I just don't want to see another deep state Neocon stooge in the oval office. I'd take a pile of dogshit over Nikki Haley, or Joe Biden, or any other fuck that's run for the presidential office since 1988.

The exception may have been Trump, possibly. I've gotten pretty used to these people being actors, ever since we had an actor in the White House in 1980.



Something just seems unreal about our entire system. Keep electing these people to do what the whole fucking country wants to do, and yet, they just never seem to be able to accomplish it.

I have a question, do you want this country to go into another fucking war or continue any of the ones we're in? Does anybody? I can't seem to find anybody saying "yeah, I really think blowing up Yemen is a fucking fine idea!" - however, every politician APPEARS to want to do that. I'm wondering when there's going to be a mass awareness that we're not in anything APPROACHING a Democracy or a Republic and haven't been for a long damned time.

The reason nothing gets done is because government doesn't represent us at all. I wonder when society will FINALLY realize this?

Now if Nikki Haley gets the RNC nomination, well, fuck that's just like if Hillary Clinton got the nomination for the DNC (I mean if Clinton got it legitimately). It's demoralizing in the extreme to think these awful fucking people are legitimately being nominated. I'm glad Clinton and Biden stole their nominations, I'm glad Joe Biden stole the presidency - now at least I don't have to think this country is so fucking retarded they elected the senile old fuck. I'd rather have a coup with a meat puppet president, than actually legitimately elect somebody so fucking evil and worthless for this country.
38   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2021 Jan 2, 8:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Could it be that Gohmert is trying to push Pence into an Obama Judge court, that will rule that Pence doesn't have the authority to toss the disputed States?
Pence realizes that if it does get to an activist Judge, they will reinterpret the 12th Amendment to say Pence is just incidental political fruit salad, and has no real official duties.

The 12th Amendment sets forth a procedure for resolving a disputed election where neither candidate achieves a majority of electoral votes. In that case, a “contingent election” is held by the House: “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote …”

Thus, if Pence were to “open” and read the electoral votes cast by both of the competing slates of electors from the six swing states, and choose “not to count” either set—in light of the conflict—the House of Representatives would immediately vote to determine the winner, with each state getting one vote. Given that a majority of states are GOP-controlled (although the Democrats control a greater number of representatives), Trump would prevail.
39   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2021 Jan 2, 8:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

To be clear here, other than riding the wave of other GOP house members. At no time during Trump's Administration, has Gohmert been a leading Stalwart championing the Constitutionality of the weaponized Politics against Trump. If he had, then this latest gambit would be more believable. It's not like this is Doug Collins, Matt Gaetz or Nunez filing this case.
40   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 2, 9:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
To be clear here, other than riding the wave of other GOP house members. At no time during Trump's Administration, has Gohmert been a leading Stalwart championing the Constitutionality of the weaponized Politics against Trump. If he had, then this latest gambit would be more believable. It's not like this is Doug Collins, Matt Gaetz or Nunez filing this case.
According to Gohmert he has been a victim of election fraud years ago, so this is personal to him.
41   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 5, 7:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Rumors are that Pence is going to send back the ballots from the battling elector states and tell the state legislatures to do their job and elect a single slate of ballots from the legislatures, themselves. That is within the Constitution, and seems to be a reasonable strategy. That would bypass the treasonous, bribed KommieFuck governors, SOS and renegade state courts attempting to legislate the steal.
42   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2021 Jan 5, 8:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I've been reading that today as well. Except that it might be Gohmert who does it for some odd reason.
43   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 5, 8:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
You want to know what is actually going on? You're reading this on the world's most powerful research system ever made. You can talk to anybody on the planet, a Libyan, a Syrian, an Iraqi, a Ukrainian. Takes time to find them, but it's well worth it. Nazi propaganda had NOTHING on us. Please talk to the people that your nation has declared an enemy, for fucks sake. Don't even listen to me, listen to them. I'm just 2nd hand information, hearsay, talk to them.


I love this idea @richwicks
44   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 5, 9:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
richwicks says
You want to know what is actually going on? You're reading this on the world's most powerful research system ever made. You can talk to anybody on the planet, a Libyan, a Syrian, an Iraqi, a Ukrainian. Takes time to find them, but it's well worth it. Nazi propaganda had NOTHING on us. Please talk to the people that your nation has declared an enemy, for fucks sake. Don't even listen to me, listen to them. I'm just 2nd hand information, hearsay, talk to them.


I love this idea @richwicks


@Patrick

Want to work on it together?

Here, I promised quite some time ago the ability to do secure email. I have SSH setup for you on my raspberry pi.

Login with: patrick@samoyed.dynu.net
Port number 2201

so: ssh -p 2201 patrick@samoyed.dynu.net

alpine is setup as an emailer. If you prefer a graphical interface, let me know - x2go is setup. It's like NoMachine or RDP - but it's a bit buggier. I'll give you sudo if you like.
45   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 5, 10:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Sending the slates back to the state legislatures would be the congressional analog to what SCOTUS did with Bush vs. Gore in Florida. As I recall, that was a similar situation where the Dems stuffed the ballot boxes in some jurisdictions. It was sort of a 'mini-me' of what the Dems are doing now.

When Gore knew the legislature would decide the electors, he conceded. The state legislatures have the power to correct crooked elections.
46   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
When Gore knew the legislature would decide the electors, he conceded. The state legislatures have the power to correct crooked elections.


I was about to write you and say Gore probably DID win the election, but then I just realized bell weather counties have been predicting the elections correctly since Nixon/Kennedy - and NIXON actually won that election. Maybe Bush DID win in 2000?

I was disgusted on how the Bush campaign was run, it was all about Bill Clinton getting a blowjob it seemed. "Restoring honor and integrity to the oval office" was used regularly. I didn't think George W. Bush turned out to have much honor or integrity. I think he may have been one of our most damaging presidents starting a war over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program. This program didn't exist. Such a blatant lie destroyed I think the moral integrity of this nation.

I realize we are lied into every war, but the Iraq War, they didn't even try to be credible.
47   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
When Gore knew the legislature would decide the electors, he conceded. The state legislatures have the power to correct crooked elections


Yes. But only up to the point when the Electors meet in the college and vote. After that, it is in Congress' hands (the Joint Session in January).
48   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
is within the Constitution


No it isn't.
49   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
conflict—the House of Representatives would immediately vote to determine the winner,


No it does not. That is a Contingent Election. And Pence can not trigger that. Congress can but only after it temporarily adjourns from its Joint Session and each chamber votes separately to discard ballots according to each chamber's own rules. If after all that happens AND nobody has 270 or more of the remaining ballots does the Contingent Election happen.
50   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
the elector ballots from the legislatures rather than the Governors and Sec.s of State.


There are no electoral ballots "sent' by the legislatures. They are sent by the states' executive branches.

All the states' legislatures do is choose the manner in which the Electors are chosen. That's it.
51   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
If the House and the Senate cannot agree on which electors to accept," Dobbs said, "an untested constitutional procedure could result in each state being given one vote which they could allocate to either Biden or Trump. And since the Republicans hold 26 of the 50 State houses, there would exist at least the mathematical possibility that President Trump could be named the constitutionally elected president."


Dobbs doesn't know what the hell he's talking about on this one. Sorry, but true. He is confusing the Joint Session with a Contingent Election, which operate according to different rules.
52   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 6:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_passing_through says
Thomas Jefferson in a similar position to Pence (if Pence were running for President) did what we all hope Pence would do and counted electors ballots in his own favor hence becoming president.

Not that I think that's in the cards... Just sayin...


That was before the 12th Amendment, I believe. And countless other VPs have done the same thing anyway (Daddy Bush, for example).
53   GreaterNYCDude   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 6, 10:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It's go time.

What do you suppose Trump said to Pence before he was driven over to the Capital building?

I've got my popcorn ready just in case it gets interesting.
54   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 6, 10:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Want to work on it together?


@richwicks How do you imagine we can contact people in various countries to get their opinions?

There's probably some way, I just don't know what it is.
55   richwicks   ignore (4)   2021 Jan 6, 10:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
richwicks says
Want to work on it together?


@richwicks How do you imagine we can contact people in various countries to get their opinions?

There's probably some way, I just don't know what it is.


Start with a website. I talk to people via qTox now, but then you need to encourage them to invite others in as a place to congregate. Think of it as pen pals across the planet. qTox is an end to end point to point communication system - you get some weirdos on there as well.

I used to do this in the 1990's and early 2000's on various communications platforms but as they aged (and I did) we lost contact over time. I met a person in Turkey and Iran - stopped talking to them both because it sort of became dangerous for the guy in Iran, and in Turkey - he's Kurdish and left the country because of mandatory conscription into the military. His brother was killed by "friendly fire".
56   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 6, 1:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Pence is a cuck, watching his country get fucked.

Donald J Trump
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Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
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57   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 6, 1:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Lin Wood insane? He was right again about Pence.
58   Booger   ignore (7)   2021 Jan 6, 2:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Pence Twitter page now shows a picture of Mike with Kamila Harris:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_pence
59   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 6, 2:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Pence is part of the deep state.

The Trump trials will start soon.
60   Onvacation   ignore (5)   2021 Jan 6, 2:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Pence is looking forward to a peaceful transition of power and to, "continue to work closely with states & deliver the Coronavirus Vaccine to MILLIONS of Americans. Under President @realDonaldTrump, we developed a Safe & Effective vaccine in record time. Hope & Healing are on the way!"

The reset continues.
61   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 6, 2:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
Pence is part of the deep state.

The Trump trials will start soon.


Yes, and it will be a warning to all. If a billionaire ex-President can be railroaded, what do you think they can do to a Senator/Congressperson? To the average Joe? You can bet that Pence and anyone else who does not want themselves or their families investigated will swear fealty to the PRI. Election fraud is now built in so Voters no longer matter. Watch how fast the Republicans fall in line. Maybe this is why Tulsi Gabbard quit.
62   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 6, 5:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says
Start with a website. I talk to people via qTox now, but then you need to encourage them to invite others in as a place to congregate. Think of it as pen pals across the planet.


I have a website. How can I encourage users to invite foreigners here?

And would they stay?

Maybe they should be invited to give their opinion on a very specific topic.
63   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jan 6, 5:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@richwicks See above.
65   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2021 Jan 7, 10:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

His name will become a verb. (You got Pence'd).
66   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 Jan 7, 10:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

HunterTits is the resident expert on the fine print of the civics, whereas my knowledge tends to be somewhat metaphorical, but I still wonder what happened to all of those promised challenges to the seven states with dual elector slates that were supposed to take days of debate in the House and Senate?
67   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2021 Jan 7, 10:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
what happened to all of those promised challenges to the seven states with dual elector slates that were supposed to take days of debate in the House and Senate?


Most of them were dropped by the senators which were supposed to support them. Only 2 have been considered, iirc. And it's more like 2hrs per, not "days".

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