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You will no longer vote for a president. One will be appointed for you by your betters. After all, they know what's best, and you're just an ignorant hick who can't be trusted with such important decisions.

2 digit iq morons who stuff ballot boxes get to choose presidents going forward. When BLM shantay tanisha brown picks, she picks for everyone.

Unless we stop this shit

If it's allowed to stand, even more people will stop voting as they realize their vote will not be counted. That means they will stop looking to elected officials to solve their problems. That means they will start looking to themselves.
I believe letting this injustice ride will only hasten the decentralization already under way, as power continues to flow away from these phony government representatives (Congress, President, etc), and back to local communities.

So while I'm appalled by the injustice, I'm thrilled by the ramifications.

NuttBoxer says

If it's allowed to stand, even more people will stop voting as they realize their vote will not be counted. That means they will stop looking to elected officials to solve their problems. That means they will start looking to themselves.

People aren't looking for politicians to solve their problems, they are wanting politicians to stop causing their problems.

NuttBoxer says

I believe letting this injustice ride will only hasten the decentralization already under way, as power continues to flow away from these phony government representatives (Congress, President, etc), and back to local communities.

The government can completely ignore any oversight, whatsoever, of their duties to citizens - but they're not going to ever stop charging for the services that they used to provide and no longer do.

Do you think anybody in an area where the "police are defunded" just got a lower tax rate?

What we will get is no police, no schools, no social services, no firemen, nothing - but we'll still be charged at higher rates to pay for what we used to get.

You can't just let this government exist, it has to be dismantled.

NuttBoxer says

If it's allowed to stand, even more people will stop voting as they realize their vote will not be counted. That means they will stop looking to elected officials to solve their problems. That means they will start looking to themselves.
I believe letting this injustice ride will only hasten the decentralization already under way, as power continues to flow away from these phony government representatives (Congress, President, etc), and back to local communities.

So while I'm appalled by the injustice, I'm thrilled by the ramifications.

No, when the elected officials no longer fear the voters, they will loot more and pass even more draconian laws. Imagine Newsome on steroids.

NuttBoxer says

If it's allowed to stand, even more people will stop voting as they realize their vote will not be counted. That means they will stop looking to elected officials to solve their problems. That means they will start looking to themselves.
I believe letting this injustice ride will only hasten the decentralization already under way, as power continues to flow away from these phony government representatives (Congress, President, etc), and back to local communities.

So while I'm appalled by the injustice, I'm thrilled by the ramifications.

It won’t. It’ll become like CA... auto win for socialists. Who are Republicans here? Nobody.

Fortwaynemobile says

Who are Republicans here? Nobody.

Actually, I saw a map that showed areas where Trump gained more votes than '16, and your area was a big one.

Look guys, governments biggest lie is making us believe we need them. Once people stop believing that en masse, how long do you think they'll be allowed to exist? Follow the dominoes, this loss of public trust will be HUGE if not checked.

richwicks says

What we will get is no police, no schools, no social services, no firemen, nothing - but we'll still be charged at higher rates to pay for what we used to get.

If there's no police how are they going to collect what they think you owe them? Send in Federales? There is not enough Federales.

We’re going to China model. Small percentage of population is government elites. Medium amount of middle class with no power but too much to lose to risk rocking the boat. Large percentage of poor brutality oppressed.

NuttBoxer says

Fortwaynemobile says

Who are Republicans here? Nobody.

Actually, I saw a map that showed areas where Trump gained more votes than '16, and your area was a big one.

I guess, but it sure feels like Dems are on auto win here.

FuckCCP89 says

richwicks says

What we will get is no police, no schools, no social services, no firemen, nothing - but we'll still be charged at higher rates to pay for what we used to get.

If there's no police how are they going to collect what they think you owe them? Send in Federales? There is not enough Federales.

Garnish bank accounts and wages, plus a lien on your house. Unless you are a gig worker, government bureaucrats will have first access to your paycheck.

HeadSet says

Garnish bank accounts and wages, plus a lien on your house. Unless you are a gig worker, government bureaucrats will have first access to your paycheck.

This is the main reason I suspect bitcorn might be sumpin.

just_passing_through says

HeadSet says

Garnish bank accounts and wages, plus a lien on your house. Unless you are a gig worker, government bureaucrats will have first access to your paycheck.

This is the main reason I suspect bitcorn might be sumpin.

Don’t worry, the Feds will take care of that too. Already have shown they can.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/business/bitcoin-seized-silk-road-ulbricht/index.html

HeadSet says

Garnish bank accounts and wages, plus a lien on your house. Unless you are a gig worker, government bureaucrats will have first access to your paycheck.

Fair enough. But evicting someone for not paying their mortgage and property taxes does require boots on the ground. No police - no boots - no evictions - no fucking property taxes.

Karloff says

You will no longer vote for a president. One will be appointed for you by your betters. After all, they know what's best, and you're just an ignorant hick who can't be trusted with such important decisions.

I had a girlfriend who went to Harvard. I even lived with her in the dorm for a semester (Adams House).

I once suggested the idea of direct democracy to her, where everyone votes on every law. She was horrified that ordinary people would then have direct input into making laws, because they seemed much too stupid to be trusted with something like that.

There really is an elitism that is taught at universities, and the more elite the university, the more it's taught. "It's a big club, and you and I ain't in it." - George Carlin

I made the mistake of listening to NPR again after six months off, and the first thing I heard was how "Trump voters don't trust the expert class." Lord, the very term "expert class" reeks of that same elitism.

You simply cannot have a scenario where one candidate is up on the evening of the election and another is up the next day.

No more mail in voting allowed after this.

Patrick says

She was horrified that ordinary people would then have direct input into making laws, because they seemed much too stupid to be trusted with something like that.

And the irony is that nearly half the country was so stupid and brainwashed by corporate media that they voted for a senile career criminal bought and paid for by the CCP.

Under these circumstances why should those idiots vote? They are owned by the corporations they serve.

In the future bullets will replace ballots, thanks dems and don't come crying when you reap what you sow.

FuckCCP89 says

If there's no police how are they going to collect what they think you owe them?

send in social workers who will annoy you to death

BayArea says

You simply cannot have a scenario where one candidate is up on the evening of the election and another is up the next day.

No more mail in voting allowed after this.

Impossible. The Dems have succeeded propagandizing the silly trivialized “every vote counts” and watered things down in the voting process to where no ID is necessary making it possible for illegal aliens to vote.

Unless the SCOTUS rules these measures illegal and requires ID, it’s all over.

Fortwaynemobile says

I guess, but it sure feels like Dems are on auto win here.

For sure, but things are changing.

Vote-by-mail coupled with vote harvesting (going door-to-door collecting ballots from people) has lowered the barrier to voting so far that it's now, at best, just a popularity contest. And that's a generous summary that doesn't even count the additional fraud possibilities. If the country is to regain any semblance of sanity, the barriers to voting should be raised considerably. In-person voting, voter ID, standing in line for 20 minutes, etc.

So, yes, elections appear to be permanently altered. In a race to the bottom of voter quality, we've just about hit the bottom. If the progressives have their way, we have an additional 30 or 40 million new illiterate voters from 3rd-world countries and we'll have 16 year olds voting. Then, for sure, we'll be at the bottom.

NuttBoxer says

Fortwaynemobile says

I guess, but it sure feels like Dems are on auto win here.

For sure, but things are changing.

Things are changing? All the Dems have to do to win now is flood the precincts with false ballots in the large population centers controlled by Dems. Even if the state is virtually all Red outside the cities, the cities can have 3 AM ballot dumps that are counted and not allowed to be challenged. Poof, Blue in all statewide elections.

NuttBoxer says

Fortwaynemobile says

I guess, but it sure feels like Dems are on auto win here.

For sure, but things are changing.

It was 70/30 last election. That’s not changing, that’s autowin. Republicans only hope here is to grow balls and be meaningful, but they are unlikely to do that too. So left auto wins.

HeadSet says

Things are changing? All the Dems have to do to win now is flood the precincts with false ballots in the large population centers controlled by Dems. Even if the state is virtually all Red outside the cities, the cities can have 3 AM ballot dumps that are counted and not allowed to be challenged. Poof, Blue in all statewide elections.

You should probably go back and read the beginning of this starting with OP.

And I'm sure pure-as-the-driven-snow Republicans, who go to church Sunday, and drone a middle eastern family Monday would never think to use the same strategy. But as I've said elsewhere, doesn't matter, cuz this system won't last another four years.

Fortwaynemobile says

It was 70/30 last election. That’s not changing, that’s autowin. Republicans only hope here is to grow balls and be meaningful, but they are unlikely to do that too. So left auto wins.

https://www.nytimes3xbfgragh.onion/2020/12/07/upshot/trump-election-vote-shift.html

Sometimes I think you guys are aspiring masochists, you seem to enjoy pretending the world is against you.

SunnyvaleCA says

Vote-by-mail coupled with vote harvesting (going door-to-door collecting ballots from people) has lowered the barrier to voting so far that it's now, at best, just a popularity contest. And that's a generous summary that doesn't even count the additional fraud possibilities. If the country is to regain any semblance of sanity, the barriers to voting should be raised considerably. In-person voting, voter ID, standing in line for 20 minutes, etc.

So, yes, elections appear to be permanently altered. In a race to the bottom of voter quality, we've just about hit the bottom. If the progressives have their way, we have an additional 30 or 40 million new illiterate voters from 3rd-world countries and we'll have 16 year olds voting. Then, for sure, we'll be at the bottom.

If this election was decided by a popularity contest we know who won. Look at the rally attendance.

No this election was “decided” by the corporations and wealthy people who saw this administration as putting Americans first, instead of the wealthy corporations.

The lazy, corrupt doofus candidate is the one who has been promised the fixed election? Trump overwhelmed the Dominion Hammer and Scorecard algorithms in both 2016 and 2020, which necessitated the hands on ballot stuffing with faked and printed ballots and local poll tampering in 2020 to put things over the top. They didn't have that backstop implemented to the same extent in 2016.

Of course, one might be scratching one's head over Obama as well, since the longer history of election fraud is beginning to come out.