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Voting in S. Texas, last election


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2020 Nov 13, 3:48pm   577 views  7 comments

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I have been annoyed with the election results for last few weeks so I avoided reading any news, switching on TV, and even logging into Patnet so that I can blissfully ignore unpleasant realities that I can not influence. However, yesterday I accidentally came across interesting voting data from South Texas. For those damned Yankees who are not from around here, South Texas counties are populated by Hispanics to the extent of 90+% in many cases. We can take a look at how they voted in this election:

Zapata county: Trump 52.5%, Biden 47.1%; 85% Hispanic
Val Verde county: Trump 54%, Biden 44%; 76% Hispanic
Starr county: Trump 48%, Biden 52%; >95% Hispanic.

Now compare this to places where FUCKING WHITE LIBERALS live:

Travis county (this is where Austin is): Biden 71%, Trump 26%; 68% white, 28% Hispanic.

Now please tell me the race of FUCKING IDIOTS in Texas???? I recall one of Patnetters was trying to scare us with "brown hordes" that will come and expel/kill us all? Would Patnetters rather live in Austin among the limousine idiots or among hard-working Hispanics of S. Texas? I think the lunacy of the Left (with their 10000 genders, males in female bathrooms, police cancellations, etc) has finally paid off. They are losing votes of common folk who work in farming, oil patches, petrochemical industry, and fishing. Without these jobs none of us would survive. And these workers are actually DIVERSE, which is different from fucking limousine liberals who work in HR or diversity offices doing jobs no one needs. As much as our resident Democrats might hate it, so-called workers and peasants voted R in this election.

And a chaser from TX Observer:

Danny Diaz wasn’t shocked when he heard about the Republican surge along the Texas-Mexico border that confounded so many national pundits last week. The majority Latino region has long been a Democratic stronghold, communities there have been ravaged by COVID-19, and polls indicate widespread disapproval of Donald Trump’s border wall. Yet local organizers like Diaz, the get-out-the-vote coordinator for Rio Grande Valley nonprofit La Unión del Pueblo Entero (LUPE), sensed days and weeks ahead of the election that the region would turn out for Trump.

Even as local turnout surged, border counties largely shifted right, shrinking Democrats’ margins of victory in the presidential race and in key Congressional and state races. Starr County, one of the poorest in the U.S. and with the highest share of Hispanic residents, had the biggest shift. Barack Obama won by 73 points in 2012. In 2016, Hillary Clinton won by 60. This year, Joe Biden led by just five points. Local Democratic Congressman Vicente Gonzalez, who handily won re-election last cycle, hung onto his seat by less than three points.

Meanwhile, conservative organizers say that local “Trump trains”—car rallies where Trump supporters would drive around town—energized the Republican base, and made voting for Trump less of a stigma in a region that’s repeatedly been the target of his rhetoric and policies. Rolando Rodriguez, the assistant regional director for Latinos for Trump, organized a series of Trump trains in Hidalgo County, some with as many as 4,000 cars. That inspired Ross Barrera, Starr County’s GOP chairman, to organize his own. “We’ve been dead,” Barrera says of his county’s chapter of the Republican Party. “I didn’t feel we had the base to do this, but we did the Trump train, and we got to meet a lot of people who were Republican and we never knew they were.” So each night during the three weeks of early voting, he gathered volunteers to phone bank for Republican candidates. “I said, you know what, we could do something here.”

In an informal poll Barrera conducted among 800 to 1,000 Starr County Trump voters, he says the most common reason people told him that they voted for Trump was job precarity, specifically in the oil and gas industry. Oil and gas extraction, along with petroleum and coal manufacturing, are two of the top ten industries in South Texas, according to the state comptroller, and the industry has tanked this year. And with law enforcement agencies and the Border Patrol as other major employers, Salas, Biden’s regional organizing director, says national calls to “defund the police” don’t always resonate. Protests against police brutality by white officers against Black people often fall flat in the vastly Latino region, where “the law enforcement looks the same as us,” she says.

Organizers point to these priorities to explain that the massive shift can’t be chalked up to Republican outreach efforts alone. The small, rural Zapata County, which Trump won by five points this year after losing it by 33 in 2016, doesn’t have an active chapter of the Republican party. No organizers reached by the Observer knew of a significant GOP get-out-the-vote campaign there.

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1   Bd6r   2020 Nov 13, 4:07pm  

And excerpt from Matt Taibbi:

Which is the Real "Working Class Party" Now?

In an irony he is humorously ill-equipped to appreciate, Donald Trump by losing this week may have gained something for the Republican Party bureaucracy he took such pleasure in humiliating four years ago: a future.

Defying years of muddle-headed media analyses, Trump underperformed with white men, but made gains with every other demographic. Some 26 percent of his votes came from nonwhite Americans, the highest percentage for a Republican since 1960. The politician who became instantly famous — and infamous — by saying of Mexican immigrants, “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists,” performed stunningly well with Latino voters.

Exit polls, which can be unreliable, pegged his national support at 32%-35% of the Latino vote.

Even more amazing was Trump’s performance among Black voters. .. Trump doubled his support with Black women, moving from 4% in 2016 to 8%, while upping his support among Black men from 13% to 18%. Remember, this was after four years of near-constant denunciations of Trump as not just a racist, but the leader of a literal white supremacist movement.

Trump even improved his standing among white women, 53% of whom were already pilloried in 2016 for voting for a man who bragged about how you “grab ‘em by the pussy, you can do anything.” Trump spent four years of being ripped for accusations of sexual misconduct, vile comments, and, let’s not forget also, infidelity! Trump as president was busted for wantonly cheating with multiple women, including porn stars

Yet even here, Trump gained, earning 55% of the white female vote. These results, juxtaposed against the contrasting media coverage, suggested the basic divide. Joe Biden earned 57% of the votes of college graduates, and cleaned up in the cities. Trump won 60% of voters in small towns and rural areas. In simple terms, Trump won with the sort of people who do not read The Washington Post or watch MSNBC, and disagreed with their myths.

Now, Trump is likely to leave the White House, but he created a coalition that some Republicans already understand would deliver massively in a non-pandemic situation. As Missouri Republican Josh Hawley put it the night of the election, “We are a working-class party now. That’s the future.
2   EBGuy   2020 Nov 13, 4:43pm  

Welcome back, doc. Pat.net went a bit crazy while your were out on sabbatical.
Saagar Enjeti has been talking about these points on The Rising this past week and Marco Rubio is the one other GOP politician giving consideration to this possible new coalition. Here's Saagar on Tucker this past week:

2/ Trump won historic margins in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas and he did it by speaking to their economic/cultural concerns not pandering on immigration pic.twitter.com/CDK1hr283o

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) November 11, 2020
4   Bd6r   2020 Nov 13, 5:18pm  

EBGuy says
Welcome back, doc. Pat.net went a bit crazy while your were out on sabbatical.

Thanks, I suspected this will happen as Patnetters were way too optimistic about elections.

EBGuy says
Trump won historic margins in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas and he did it by speaking to their economic/cultural concerns not pandering on immigration


If R's will not fuck it up, they will have the rural Hispanic vote in TX. D's from South Texas are D's only in name - this type of conservative D does not exist in other places. The realities of in the Valley are that they vote for a prominent member of a local family, and they vote as families, not individuals; if this continues, the ruling class there will switch to R. It is already happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._M._Lozano and may take up pace. We'll see in two years if it was a fluke, but I suspect change is real and lasting.

I hear for last 20 years that TX will go blue because Hispanics. I am fairly confidently that it did not go blue because Hispanics have started voting R, while damned Yankees and Californians who flood into our state after ruining their own, have flipped our cities blue and have shifted voting balance to left.
5   Patrick   2020 Nov 13, 5:54pm  

Dbr6 says
I recall one of Patnetters was trying to scare us with "brown hordes" that will come and expel/kill us all?


The Great Replacement is long since underway in California, and it's not entirely bad.

The bad part is the driving down of wages for legitimate US citizens to boots our owners' profits.

The good part is that the majority of Hispanic people are quite conservative. They understand motherhood and patriotism, even if not apple pie. They make good Americans once they are sure they are Americans.

I'm happy to accept that it if it turns California red in a decade or so.
7   Bd6r   2020 Nov 14, 6:34am  

Patrick says
The Great Replacement is long since underway in California, and it's not entirely bad.

The bad part is the driving down of wages for legitimate US citizens to boots our owners' profits.

@Patrick,
S TX has been Hispanic since about 1700, so there is no replacement or driving down wages in that particular region. Furthermore, I suspect that part of the increase of % of Hispanics is due to affirmative action benefits. Ask a typical older Texan and it is very likely that he had grandmother Rosita or grandfather Jose; but father was John and mother Mary simply because in 1940 it was more advantageous to be an Anglo. Now son of Jose will be Juan because it will give him advantages in being hired.
Not denying there is a shitload of illegal Hispanics of course, esp in large cities. Will be interesting to see how attitude of D's will change if Hispanics will start voting R.

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