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The Polling Crisis Is a Catastrophe for American Democracy


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2020 Nov 7, 6:24pm   301 views  4 comments

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/polling-catastrophe/616986/

The 2016 election was a shock to this new regime. Polls and poll analysts expected a Hillary Clinton victory, and instead Donald Trump won. Amid a popular backlash, the poll clique—pollsters and analysts alike—defended their results and blamed the public for not understanding polling or probabilities. They pointed out that the popular vote had closely tracked national polling on Clinton versus Trump, and while state polls were very consequentially wrong, many were not wrong by all that much.

Some observers, including me, more or less bought that defense. Pollsters closely examined their methods and promised to try to fix problems in 2020, though they noted that polls are never perfect. ...

Expect two lines of defense. First, many pollsters insist that their polls are snapshots, not predictors (and bridle at people such as Silver, Nate Cohn of the Times, and G. Elliott Morris of The Economist using them to create forecasts). If their snapshots are so far off, though, where were they aiming the lens? Why bother? Second, the analysts will protest that they’re only as good as the polls, but who cares? Whatever the instructions on the bottle, the public uses opinion polls to try to understand what happens. If the polls and their analysts don’t offer the service that customers are seeking, they’re doomed.


What it comes down to is that Trump supporters were threatened with violence, daily, for honesty giving their own opinion.

When the left is so violently intolerant of all dissent, why would you ever expect people to risk their livelihoods and lives by telling the truth?

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1   HeadSet   2020 Nov 7, 6:35pm  

Or:

Polls were deliberately skewed to give credence to to Biden winning with box loads of 3AM votes.

I would not be surprised if the next election does not have a running tally for the whole election day, but instead all results are held off until a single report the next day. That way the election results will match the polls.
2   Karloff   2020 Nov 7, 7:03pm  

There's also the psychological theory. People who want to be associated with winners tend to be collectivists as well. So give them the impression that the Dem candidate is the sure winner, and you'll get those people on board.
3   theoakman   2020 Nov 8, 7:55pm  

You'd be hard pressed to find a liberal that wouldn't condone cheating to get Trump out of office. The ends justify the means in their minds. That's why they are ok with poll workers shutting out observers.
4   Ceffer   2020 Nov 8, 8:00pm  

So. The polls being nothing more than another whorish device of propaganda to manipulate the gullible makes perfect sense in the context of current events.

Since the polls are Madison Avenue adverts, they will continue using them if the return on the fraud remains reasonably fruitful.

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