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Ever notice how much projection conservatives do? They've been going on about stolen elections and fake ballots for months, and now look who is placing unauthorized ballot boxes in public?

Much the same with their wars on sex and drugs. So many pervs and junkies putting on a conservative facade.

Automan, you should try reading the Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, and The Conservative Treehouse.
Just because the Mainstream Media says they are conspiracy crackery doesn't make it so. The MSM, refuses to report the news. These three News Sites exist purely because of the MSM's unwillingness to report the news and facts. If CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, ABC, CBS, Wapo, and the rest were willing to take news from trusted sources and report it, then they would have gotten the thousands of scoops over the last five years, instead of the three I listed above.

Even Project Veritas would be Youtube channel unboxing cheap electronics, if not for our Derelict Journalist institutions.

If you were getting your news from the right source, then you would know since Trump came in office, the Democrats have been arbitrarily changing the election rules in their States to give them the edge. Trump takes them to court, and wins every damn time. Then they just find an Obama appointed scumbag to appeal the previous ruling, which Trump challenges again and wins, it's going to have to go to the SCOTUS.

Not only have the Democrats championed and won(temporarily) the ability to Send out ballots without request, the names wont have to match, they don't need a witness, and any mistake in the printing can be ignored. Collecting ballots, delivering ballots(strong arming entire Apartment blocks into receiving and signing over ballots), and even Collection boxes.

All of which has been well documented the Democrats are doing. Just last week Trump gained 3 court victories in 3 separate States, and two of those have already been tossed by an Obama Ass Fucker Judge..


It's interesting how Wrong it all is, when Republicans tries it on for size.

Please check out Real News.

Here's a list of Voter Fraud cases, just this election cycle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskThe_Donald/comments/j9asf8/23_days_to_vote_in_person_wanna_know_how_many/

Automan Empire says

Ever notice how much projection conservatives do? They've been going on about stolen elections and fake ballots for months, and now look who is placing unauthorized ballot boxes in public?

Will you commit yourself to the election results when Trump wins?

TrumpingTits says

Automan Empire says

now look who is placing unauthorized ballot boxes in public?

Why do you write such bullshit right after the article describes how there is nothing unauthorized about it as per law passed by the Democrat-controlled CA legislature?

It's entirely in the donkey's power to ban all forms of ballot harvesting immediately.

Those magnificant Bastards!
They just got California to tell them to remove the Ballot boxes. This will give the SCOTUS case more weight.
If the Commies just went along with it, then SCOTUS would say, "Well they were free to do the samething, why didn't they?"

Now they did, and Calicommies said they can't. That makes two systems, SCOTUS doesn't like that. I think even Roberts would rule against Commiefornia now.

https://www.breitbart.com/news/california-gop-says-it-owns-unofficial-ballot-drop-boxes/

The controversy surfaced during the weekend after state election officials received reports of the boxes in Fresno, Los Angeles and Orange counties, all areas with highly competitive U.S. House races. Democrats have blasted the use of the unofficial boxes and say they fear Republicans could use them to gather and discard ballots.

In California, state law says voters who can’t return their ballots themselves can ask anyone else to do it for them. Previously, people who returned a ballot for someone else also had to sign it and list their relationship to the voter. But a separate law passed in 2018 eliminated that requirement.

In Orange County, which is home to 3 million people between Los Angeles and San Diego, a regional field director for the state GOP posed for a photo with one of the boxes. The image posted to social media showed him wearing a face covering supporting the congressional campaign of Michelle Steel, a Republican county supervisor.

Steel is challenging Democratic U.S. Rep. Harley Rouda for his seat representing a coastal district. Rouda flipped the seat two years ago from longtime Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher.

Orange County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelley said official drop boxes are clearly recognizable and carry official county elections logo. He said it wasn’t clear how many voters had used unofficial boxes but after receiving reports about them, he notified the state and district attorney’s office, which is investigating.

Rachel Potucek, a spokeswoman for the Democratic Party of Orange County, said she didn’t know what Republicans planned to do with the ballots they collected and worried they could target Democratic areas with boxes to suppress votes.

There also were reports of GOP drop boxes at a church in the Los Angeles County community of Castaic and at various locations in Fresno County in California’s farm-rich Central Valley.

Fresno County Republicans said they will remove the boxes and ballots will be turned in to county election officials, which was always the plan, the Sacramento Bee reported.

Tenpoundbass says

Automan, you should try reading the Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, and The Conservative Treehouse.

This is like arguing with a woman about some point of fact she disagrees with. "If you'd just LISTEN to me you would agree!" She's already presupposed she is correct and the other person is wrong and just needs to listen to a bunch of words to change their position.

I'll look at the sites you mentioned, but don't consider them unvarnished, unbiased truth. They are biased outlets that happen to match YOUR biases. Breitbart in particular has less than zero credibility after years of pushing out propagandistic statements in headlines that are not even supported by their own body text.

After all of the banging on about election fraud and discrediting and dismantling the mail system as a method of voting, it's really rich to see the GOP placing their own special ballot collection boxes out in public.

AB306 does NOT specifically authorize partisan groups to place ballot collection boxes, that is a stretch of an interpretation mostly attractive to people biased toward a GOP-postive outcome.

Automan Empire says

AB306 does NOT specifically authorize partisan groups to place ballot collection boxes

Whatever is not prohibited is by default allowed.

Automan Empire says

I'll look at the sites you mentioned, but don't consider them unvarnished, unbiased truth. They are biased outlets that happen to match YOUR biases. Breitbart in particular has less than zero credibility after years of pushing out propagandistic statements in headlines that are not even supported by their own body text.

TGP posts the actual Congressman calling for investigations, or the unredacted reports, a Trump statement in full, and other genuine factoids. The actual journalism that goes along with it, is mostly opinion no different, than what we all say and hope here. The accompanying commentary is often less than a full paragraph of content. Mostly it goes like this.

"Remember back in Janurary when we reported Hunter Biden, laptop was found in a strip club, and it was discovered that he got $80K a month?"

a link to that article and the supporting proof.

"Then we reported that Joe Biden said he never had conversations with his son about his business dealings."

a link to Joe Biden telling a reporter that.

"We now have emails from Hunter asking his Dad to meet his Ukraine business associate"

And the new bombshell document.

All of this happens with the Video, the Doccuments, that come from the principal parties in the story.

What you never get from these sites, like you get with the MSM,

"An official said" They always tell you the Congressman, Senator, or Law Official, Cabinet member that story is about or source.
There's never an anonymous source, it's the actual straight info straight from the horses mouth.

Then to really drive it home, the next day, they will report.

"Yesterday we told you that (Congressman) said he's got proof (A Baddie) did (Some horrible action), today it is reported Youtube removed the video, Facebook censored him, and Twitter deleted him."

These aren't opinion articles it's raw scoops that they are handed, because the MSM is trying hard to suppress it and stop the information they report from ever coming to light.

Check it out, if I'm wrong come back and call me a God Damn Liar and tell me my breath stinks! i have thick skin and can handle it, but you wont have to.

Automan Empire says

Breitbart in particular has less than zero credibility after years of pushing out propagandistic statements in headlines that are not even supported by their own body text.

Those headlines, are either telling their readers where this is going, and most always right. Or they are continuing a narrative, that their readers have been following for 4 or 5 years. The credibility happens, when the facts come out. They have been spot on everything that has come out from the Trump declass. If you don't know what I'm talking about. That's because the MSM doesn't want you to know, that 80% of the Obama admin crimes are coming to light with actual official documents, minutes and reports.

Let me ask you something.

Have you read one single email that has been leaked from Page, Strozk, Hillary, Pedosta or anyone else?

That's another thing these sites love to publish and comment on. Has your media been gracious enough to publish them for your edification?

Tenpoundbass says

Those headlines, are either telling their readers where this is going, and most always right.

I think you're running on selection bias here. Remember the times they got something right, downplay or flat out forget all the times they were wrong, in obvious biased ways.

Tenpoundbass says

your media

You assume that because I don't favor your specific sources, that it must mean I blindly consume MSM. It's like the possibility never occurs to you that other people can legitimately study things and come to different and valid conclusions compared to yours.

Automan Empire says

AB306 does NOT specifically authorize partisan groups to place ballot collection boxes

You know what the demonrats used here in SoCal for 'collection boxes' during the mid-terms after they legalized this sort of theft?

Trunks of abandoned rental cars, uhauls abandoned at airports. Shit like that. Of COURSE this is fair just when the demonrats are attempting to roll this out across the entire fucking nation.

Automan Empire says

It's like the possibility never occurs to you that other people can legitimately study things and come to different and valid conclusions compared to yours.

What do you care about, the facts or THE TRUTH!?

just_adhom_preaching says

Automan Empire says

AB306 does NOT specifically authorize partisan groups to place ballot collection boxes

You know what the demonrats used here in SoCal for 'collection boxes'

Do you assume that because I oppose Republicans placing bootleg ballot collection boxes, that I must support Democrats doing the same? I think you're projecting your own zero sum game political mindset on everyone else here.

Automan Empire says

I think you're running on selection bias here. Remember the times they got something right, downplay or flat out forget all the times they were wrong, in obvious biased ways.

America was put through 5 long years of political intrigue and bogus coup attempt solely based on the Media you are defending, and you're attacking the only news organizations that has called it 100% since the beginning. You sound like all the Liberals at work, that couldn't wait for all of the Trump family to go to jail based on the bogus salacious reporting from their news sources. They called those news sites "Conspiracy theory right winger sites." Exactly the same information that is coming out officially now, with email, reports, and documents, that come straight from the official Washington archives. Proves them and me right. None of them have apologized, they are keeping their fingers crossed, a new Red Herring will come along and bail them out.

The NYT WaPO and all else have been lying to you for 5 years, and you're calling the only legitimate sources reporting the facts and truth biased.

Truth does have a bias to it, if you seek the truth. You would be biased against lies and disinformation wouldn't you?

Nothing fishy here.

EBGuy says

Nothing fishy here.

Nothing fishy indeed: it's a drop off box for official ballots. =)) Unofficial ballots are not welcome!

Tenpoundbass says

the Media you are defending

Now we KNOW you're projecting or making things up about me out of whole cloth. I haven't introduced, much less defended or recommended, any media outlet to this discussion thread. Your ability to defend the sources YOU supplied to the discussion appears to have run short of facts, so now you're continuing with the selection bias you've built up around them as a giant cope.

Automan Empire says

After all of the banging on about election fraud and discrediting and dismantling the mail system as a method of voting, it's really rich to see the GOP placing their own special ballot collection boxes out in public.

AB306 does NOT specifically authorize partisan groups to place ballot collection boxes, that is a stretch of an interpretation mostly attractive to people biased toward a GOP-postive outcome.

The point of the article, as I understand it, is that Democratic Party proponents have been harvesting ballots for the last few elections and have even changed election laws to make it even easier. Now, when Republican Party proponents start making some moves to harvest ballots, the Democrat-controlled state election officials are upset. It's the hypocrisy of one group setting the rules favorable to their tactics and then complaining when the opponents leverage those very same rules.

Automan Empire says

I haven't introduced, much less defended or recommended, any media outlet to this discussion thread.

Then where do you get your facts, to dispute what I'm posting? I've been following a bigger story, than the narrative that the GOP decided to just throw out a ballot drop box on the streets one day. And the Democrats dindu nuffin. Whoa, Oh Nelly! The Democrats are being disenfranchised now, the GOP is Ballot harvesting and projecting it on the Democrats. And they dinevin du nuffin!

I mean what's your take on it, because to accuse the GOP of projecting election rigging on the Democrats at this point. You need to offer up more proof, than a Chuck Schumer CNN screed. No I'm not projecting that you have. But punching holes in the process and method of our discussion, doesn't make your argument.

I've studied this for five years, from facts and sources, through channels that were the only available outlets for the truth. Unless you can inform me otherwise, I'll have to trust the crowd sourced truth, those interested enough to follow the last five years. All know as common knowledge. And Maddows, Acosta, and Cooper are no where near close.

Tenpoundbass says

hen where do you get your facts

Inductive reasoning, meaning bringing all of my carefully accumulated knowledge to bear on a given problem. I don't take any news outlet at their word, but some have maintained good credibility while others have blatantly lied so many times they practically taint any legit news story they do run. I cross check new information against many sources and consider the known biases of each.

Most beliefs and assumptions aren't binary to me, they are more like a constellation of probabilities, for they often depend on unreliable or unavailable data about many aspects of them. It's a lot of mental work, but it helps resist some of the human mind's computational shortcuts and limitations.

The price of not doing this is finding changing genuinely bogus ideas becomes more uncomfortable and mentally burdensome than attacking or ignoring the challenger. One ends up trapped in a state of being fractally wrong about the world and society around them.

So you're consuming the news and going with your gut. That's what they hoped you would do.

The difference in Trump supporters and those who despise him no matter what.

They have been following the News for the last 5 years.
While we have been studying the Facts.

Just go to WashingtonPost.com and see how buried the Hunter Biden story is. Then when you find it, it is riddled with.

"Allegedly", "Presumably", "But there's no proof Biden replied to the email",

then there's another article on their site hidden away.
"Biden's laptop explainer"

CNN doesn't have one single article, about any truth bombs that has come out the last several weeks.

We've been feeding on the actual intel as it has leaked over the last five years. At a great cost and disservice to the facts.
I can't help but feel if the good guys, the whistle blowers, the crowd sourced investigators, the Congressmen paying attention, the folks in the DOJ that are paying attention, all kept their mouth shut, and didn't put it out for TGP, Breitbart, The Conservative Treehouse, 4Chan, and all else to digest and inform those interested in the facts.
If they had just sat on it, and not allowed Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson to slowly release the pressure to the point, the Left feels like it's a nothing burger by now, and the Right feels more vindicated than Angry.
Then there would be 2 million man march on Washington today demanding the incarceration of all of Obama's administration, and demanding about 40% of Congress and the Senate to step down, because they've all known about it for as long as we have. And most were instrumental in the execution of these crimes, and seditious acts.

Which has all been part of their plan. Don't let them get away with it, with complacency, and saying. Well if it didn't come up on my Yahoo news feed, then it isn't true.

At least take a curious eye to it, and seek out the truth. Then I will accept if you want to say.

"Well I'm a a partisan thinker, and I don't see a problem with what the Establishment did, before Trump, during his campaign and since he came in office. I just want to see Democrats win. It's a means to an end."

I can at least reason with that logic. I don't get people who just assume that if Wapo and CNN isn't outraged then it didn't happen. But if they are, then Trump had Russian hookers piss on him.

I don't get it.

Automan Empire says

. I don't take any news outlet at their word, but some have maintained good credibility

Which news outlet are you talking about? Fox? They seem a bit biased to me. Will you name the source of your propaganda?

Onvacation says

Which news outlet are you talking about? Fox?

My brother told me about his TDS mother in law. He said all she does is watch FOX and bitches about Trump.

FOX has become the cable news channel of choice for the TDS. I miss the good ole days, when the Democrats were trying to shut them down for being the Only conservative voice in the Cable news market.

Tenpoundbass says

I miss the good ole days, when the Democrats were trying to shut them down for being the Only conservative voice in the Cable news market.

15 years ago, all Fox "news" did was perpetuate propaganda to support the stupid Iraq War that George W. Bush lied this nation into.

At the time, I was bothered by the fact that US "news" channels were nakedly pushing propaganda, and were perfectly willing to misinform and lie to the population. The result of Fox "news" being on the air though demonstrated that all "news" channels in the United States, all of them, promote propaganda and are perfectly willing to misinform and lie to the population.

There's no reason to hold Fox accountable for being the propaganda arm of the 4th Reich instead of the 4th estate because they are all propaganda arms now and perhaps have always been.

richwicks says

15 years ago, all Fox "news" did was perpetuate propaganda to support the stupid Iraq War that George W. Bush lied this nation into.

Me. The Dixie Chicks and Richard Gere were the only people in America that didn't want Bush to go into the Afghanistan or Iraq.

Tenpoundbass says

richwicks says

15 years ago, all Fox "news" did was perpetuate propaganda to support the stupid Iraq War that George W. Bush lied this nation into.

Me. The Dixie Chicks and Richard Gere were the only people in America that didn't want Bush to go into the Afghanistan or Iraq.

And all those anti-war protestors. Don't you remember them?

Barely - because Obama did have quite a success, he absolutely destroyed the anti-war movement, as he went on to bomb Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen.

There was no antiwar movement on the eve of Bush taking us into the middle east. Most Americans bought it all hook line and sinker. They welcomed the formation of the Homeland Security Administration.

There was no Patnet then, so I'm not saying those here were pro Bush war. But from my POV in my neck of the woods, everyone thought it was unpatriotic of me, to say it was a bad thing.

Tenpoundbass says

There was no antiwar movement on the eve of Bush taking us into the middle east.

Yes, there absolutely was. People went to Iraq to be human shields, there was Cindy Sheehan.

The only thing the Obama administration did was to destroy that movement. That is why the Neocon traitor Obama is "remembered" so fondly by our so-called "news" media.

I used to post on yahoo when all "news" articles had comments. Most of us were anti-war, people explained who Scott Ritter was, what Hussein did to religious leaders seeking political power, and why it was impossible that binLaden would have worked with Hussein. You can't see this now, because yahoo simply deleted all of that information.

Our government pretends there was no anti-war movement, and you're falling for it. Our government is just a group of criminal scum, and they lie to you constantly. They need you obedience for them to get away with their unspeakable crimes.