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California’s Gavin Newsom Bans Gas-powered Vehicles, Effective 2035


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2020 Sep 23, 2:18pm   4,485 views  52 comments

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1   Bd6r   2020 Sep 23, 2:32pm  

Sadly, California will not ban Gavin Newsom
2   Ceffer   2020 Sep 23, 2:38pm  

From the atrocious, to the bizarre! California must be the seeding experiment for air distributed psyops hallucinogens from the CIA. I'm waiting for them to take hold in my brain so I no longer feel pain from the rampant moron-icity.
3   BayArea   2020 Sep 23, 2:46pm  

Incentivizing more electric vehicles I can understand

Banning the sales of gas powered cars? Banning?? Like a corporation wants to sell me a gas powered car and I want to buy a gas powered car in 2035 but that transaction is outlawed? That’s insane.
4   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Sep 23, 2:51pm  

So is he proposing to nuke China?


5   georgeliberte   2020 Sep 23, 3:05pm  

Banning the sales of gas powered cars? Banning?? Like a corporation wants to sell me a gas powered car and I want to buy a gas powered car in 2035 but that transaction is outlawed? That’s insane.
By 2035 Gavin will b World Uberfuhrer.
6   georgeliberte   2020 Sep 23, 3:07pm  

Seriously, does the Governor have such power? maybe he can tie it to COVID-19 somehow.
7   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 23, 3:11pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
So is he proposing to nuke China?


A puppet can't propose to nuke the puppeteer.
8   socal2   2020 Sep 23, 3:24pm  

I love my Chevy Bolt and can't wait to buy a Tesla next year when my lease is up, but this is stupid.

This retarded state can't even keep the electricity running without blackouts, but we are going to add millions of cars to the electric grid?
9   clambo   2020 Sep 23, 3:33pm  

All the electric battery cars in California run on natural gas anyway.

Gavin is nuts.
10   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Sep 23, 3:46pm  

King Gavin bans things others have.

Btw not fake news. Got this as donation seeking email from dnc.
11   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Sep 23, 5:04pm  

Good thing I’ll be well and gone from this shithole of a state by 2035.

Seriously fuck California Dumbocrats.
12   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 23, 5:06pm  

Sign that petition!
13   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Sep 23, 5:25pm  

Queen Nancy must have called her nephew King Gavin and asked if peasants could drive less gas powered cars.
14   Karloff   2020 Sep 23, 5:30pm  

Another moronic politician who doesn't have the slightest clue as to what his actions will actually result in. People will buy their vehicles out-of-state.
15   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 23, 5:37pm  

Karloff says
Another moronic politician who doesn't have the slightest clue as to what his actions will actually result in. People will buy their vehicles out-of-state.


Can't bring a new one from out-of-state (unless moving between states). I has to have at least 7500 miles on the odo. Not a big deal, but if you absolutely insist on buying new cars - no soup for you.
16   Booger   2020 Sep 23, 7:07pm  

Eric Holder says
Can't bring a new one from out-of-state (unless moving between states). I has to have at least 7500 miles on the odo. Not a big deal, but if you absolutely insist on buying new cars - no soup for you.


My interpretation is that selling used cars in CA would still be in accordance with this law, so that's where used cars will go.
17   BayArea   2020 Sep 23, 7:17pm  

Used cars have a bright future in CA apparently
18   GNL   2020 Sep 23, 7:28pm  

Will Gavin be governor in 2035? It's not a law, correct?
19   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 23, 7:33pm  

Booger says
Eric Holder says
Can't bring a new one from out-of-state (unless moving between states). I has to have at least 7500 miles on the odo. Not a big deal, but if you absolutely insist on buying new cars - no soup for you.


My interpretation is that selling used cars in CA would still be in accordance with this law, so that's where used cars will go.


Yes, but "used" for the purpose of importation is not defined as "had been previously registered" but "has been previously registered and has at least 7500 miles on the odo".
20   richwicks   2020 Sep 23, 7:34pm  

Booger says
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/californias-gavin-newsom-bans-gas-powered-vehicles-effective-2035/

California’s Gavin Newsom Bans Gas-powered Vehicles, Effective 2035


I work in the EV industry sort of.

First of all Nauseam won't be governor then, it's just political pandering 15 years away.

Second of all, I don't think EVs are actually realistic - at least not yet. They are a status symbol, not a solution.

Third, California doesn't have the infrastructure to charge vehicles. I'm an expert in the DIN and 15518-2 spec. It's a bunch of pure bullshit. The "architects" that wrote it have absolutely no idea what the fuck they are talking about. They are talking about having charged vehicles power the grid - there's one thing they forgot to do though, is include in the digital communication protocol a way to drain the battery into the grid. They are fucking retards. Most incompetent architects with the worst standard I've ever seen, in my entire career. I'm 49.
21   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Sep 23, 7:38pm  

Will we be allowed go buy one in Nevada and then register it in California?
22   Tenpoundbass   2020 Sep 23, 7:39pm  

That's cheap and easy, because in 2035 he wont be Governor.
23   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 23, 7:44pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
Will we be allowed go buy one in Nevada and then register it in California?


Vehicle From Out of State Purchases – Can You Register It in California?

The Bottom Line

If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck, or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws to be registered in California. This includes certain diesel-powered vehicles. The Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) cannot accept an application to register a vehicle in California that does not qualify for registration (California Health and Safety Code §§43150 – 43156).

What is Considered a New Vehicle?

California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.

Aren’t All Vehicles California Certified?

Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold in California. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold only in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-state) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. California-certified (50-state) vehicles are made to be sold in California.

Check the Label

To find out whether a car, truck, or motorcycle is California certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle, check the frame or refer to your owner’s manual for the location. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.


Exemptions

There are a few exemptions to the law. As a California resident, you may be able to register a 49-state vehicle if it was:

Obtained as part of a divorce, inheritance, or legal separation settlement.
Purchased to replace your California registered vehicle that was stolen while you were using the vehicle out-of-state.
Purchased to replace your California registered vehicle that was destroyed or made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using the vehicle out of state.
An emergency vehicle, pursuant to California Vehicle Code §§27156.2 and 27156.3.
Registered by you in the state of your last active military service outside California.
A street motorcycle or motor-driven cycle year model 2005 and older, with an engine less than 50 cubic centimeters (cc) displacement. Beginning January 1, 2006, street motorcycles and motor-driven cycles year model 2006 and newer, with engines less than 50 cc displacement, require an emission label certifying them to meet U.S. Environmental Protection Agency emission regulations, and may be registered regardless of mileage.

Does This Apply to Someone Moving to California?

If you are moving to California from another state, you may register a new 49-state vehicle if it was first registered by you in your home state, or for military personnel, in the last state of your military service. When applying for vehicle registration in California, you must provide evidence that the vehicle was registered.


https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-education-and-safety/educational-materials/fast-facts/buying-a-vehicle-from-out-of-state-can-you-register-it-in-california-ffvr-29/

PS. So your best bet would be to drive your old jalopy to Navada, wrap it around a tree and buy whatever new car you want. This way you can bring it back to CA sans certification and other BS.
24   Patrick   2020 Sep 23, 7:49pm  

One thing I like about the proposal is that it cuts down funding for terrorism. Almost all terrorism on earth is Wahhabi Sunni Muslims paid by Saudi Arabia or Qatar, and they get their money from oil

On the other hand, if we don't buy the oil, that just makes it cheaper for China, and they will buy it.
25   Patrick   2020 Sep 23, 9:41pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
So is he proposing to nuke China?




Do you remember when citizen Trump once Tweeted that climate change was a hoax for the benefit of China? It sounded crazy to most of the world. Then we learned that the centerpiece of politics around climate change -- the Paris Climate Accord -- was hugely expensive for the United States and almost entirely useless for lowering temperatures. (Experts agree on both points now.) The accord was a good deal for China, in the sense that it would impede its biggest rival, the United States, while costing China nothing for years.


Win Bigly, page 66

I do think Trump was right. China is using climate change as a way to disadvantage us as a competitor.
26   Dholliday126   2020 Sep 23, 9:59pm  

Me predicts this won't happen
27   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 24, 10:19am  

Dholliday126 says
Me predicts this won't happen


Yes, they once had their assess handed to them by reality when they passed that ZEV mandate in the 90s. The industry couldn't deliver and the mandate was quietly cancelled.
28   Onvacation   2020 Sep 24, 10:42am  

Booger says
Gavin Newsom Bans Gas-powered Vehicles, Effective 2035


Tell that to the road warriors on their way to the Thunderdome.
29   HeadSet   2020 Sep 24, 1:30pm  

Dholliday126 says
Me predicts this won't happen


Nor is it intended for any result other than political posturing. Newsome needs to bang the drum of AGM to blame the fires on, and deflect from failure to proper manage forests in fire ecology areas.
31   Ceffer   2020 Sep 24, 2:31pm  

Gavin Newsom: King of the LibbyFuck, head in the sand, Non-Sequitur pronouncement.

'Dodge all responsibility, deny all reality, and keep raising taxes, fees, fines, and levies!"

"When in doubt, raving, deluded virtue signaling will throw them off the scent!"
32   prodigy   2020 Sep 24, 3:19pm  

Irrelevant.
California will be a smoking ember by then...

Booger says
California’s Gavin Newsom Bans Gas-powered Vehicles, Effective 2035
33   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Sep 24, 4:28pm  

Sheesh.

The state is going broke, pension funds extorting from we Tax Donkeys, Fire Season has barely started, and like we need this right now?

Sheesh.
34   GNL   2020 Sep 24, 8:14pm  

richwicks says
Booger says
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/californias-gavin-newsom-bans-gas-powered-vehicles-effective-2035/

California’s Gavin Newsom Bans Gas-powered Vehicles, Effective 2035


I work in the EV industry sort of.

First of all Nauseam won't be governor then, it's just political pandering 15 years away.

Second of all, I don't think EVs are actually realistic - at least not yet. They are a status symbol, not a solution.

Third, California doesn't have the infrastructure to charge vehicles. I'm an expert in the DIN and 15518-2 spec. It's a bunch of pure bullshit. The "architects" that wrote it have absolutely no idea what the fuck they are talking about. They are talking about having charged vehicles power the grid - there's...

Haha, are they close to perpetual motion yet?
35   ForcedTQ   2020 Sep 24, 8:53pm  

Sweet, the stupid fucks who are buying EVs with the help of tax rebates and supplemented by carbon credit offset dollars are putting inertia behind this push. That shit needs to stop, it’s only intensifying the rabid ideologies of anti liquid fuel based transportation for the masses.

PSPS events and other unplanned outages of electricity will cripple a majority EV transportation fleet. But that they don’t care, the goal is more Fucking Control.
36   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Sep 24, 9:35pm  

Pure virtue signaling. The way California is going, only the top 0.1% will be able to afford new cars in another 15 years. I'm quite sure that in 15 years I'll either be living in another state or I'll be dead.
37   rigidmember   2020 Sep 24, 9:47pm  

Headline from 2040:

Massive Quake Hits Hayward Fault Resulting In Power Outages For The Region. Officials Fear Power Will Not Be Restored For At Least Two Weeks. Outraged Residents Say They Cannot Obtain Basic Necessities Due To Not Being Able To Charge Their Cars.
38   ForcedTQ   2020 Sep 25, 5:56am  

rigidmember says
Headline from 2040:

Massive Quake Hits Hayward Fault Resulting In Power Outages For The Region. Officials Fear Power Will Not Be Restored For At Least Two Weeks. Outraged Residents Say They Cannot Obtain Basic Necessities Due To Not Being Able To Charge Their Cars.


Cannot get to work, doctors office, hospital, kids to school (hahahaha, like that will be back by 2040), parts for repair of their house, etc. The demand for large kW backup generation is going to go through the roof if people with EVs are going to want to be prepared.
39   Eric Holder   2020 Sep 25, 12:15pm  

Average age of a car in CA is ~12 years and going up. There are at least 2 mil of new cars sold in CA every year. Meaning that in 2040 there will be shitload of ICE cars still roaming CA roads.
40   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Sep 25, 12:44pm  

Eric Holder says
in 2040 there will be shitload of ICE cars still roaming CA

Yeah.

But what about the tourism?

(pre pandemic) so many folks arrive here by air from all over the US and all over the world, rent a car and explore the state. Will the car rental agencies just keep and maintain their old cars? (maybe that's not such a bad idea anyway!)

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