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Note that they are all self propagating disasters once started. Very cheap and easy as weapons, and we don't even know who did it for sure.

Just imagine, if you will, desperate Democrat globalists going to China saying, "Please do something! The American economy is going great, dammit. Trump is just going so sail to re-election unless things turn to shit quickly."

And China saying, "OK, just wait..."

Anything they did, they did in conjunction with their local USA allies and employees with collusion.

I heard that weather control can steer hurricanes with electromagnetism, and that the PTB are planning a false flag solar flare pulse around election day to shut down the entire grid if they think Trump is going to take it.

Of course, there are the conspiracy theories about directed energy beams, too, causing fires. The destruction is so amazingly complete, in some areas it goes beyond what even the heat a forest fire can produce.

I don't discount conspiracy theories out of hand. I table them until I have enough time to examine and weigh all the arguments and evidence I can find, which can take awhile. Unfortunately, many so-called conspiracy theories have turned out to be true after this process.

Some of them never get out of the starting gate of allegation because there isn't enough information one way or another.

i have heard the portents of 'new pandemics' that they are flogging to continue to extend the lockdowns and civil rights abrogations when Covid finally becomes a beaten dead horse, beyond the pale of their ability to pay for fake news about it. So, faked pandemic is going to be milked until the cancellations of rights become more or less established.

Rumblings were a couple of months ago that the CCP aren't that comfy in their position, and that for one of the few times in their history the leaders were making arrangements to transfer vast funds against the possibility that they would have to make a hasty exit from the country. I can believe that they used Wuhan to squelch their own rebellions, but it seems overall that it hasn't been that good for them on the world stage. On the other hand, unintended consequences are unintended because something was unleashed that wasn't as controlled as anticipated.

I think BLM and fires are man made invented problems.

Wuhan flu is just like sars. China did that shit in the past. Fucked up, and denied for a while.

Patrick says

One is random.
Two is coincidence.
Three is enemy action.

Could be Iranians such as Iranian students studying in California that are doing the bidding of Tehran.

I also urge caution as far as John Kerry along with Susan Rice paying Tehran a visit in early October to get them to start problems in the Persian Gulf or abroad via terrorism right before the November election.

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The WuFlu hit the entire world, the BLM is afflicting the entire western world, and the fires are only affecting the west coast of USA. Are there other fires or disasters cropping up in other western nations? Further, it seems that many of the fires were started by the lightning storm we had a few weeks ago.

I don't believe that that many fires could have been started by lightning more than two weeks ago, only to start burning in new places now.

If you were China and you wanted to sow havoc in the US, you'd look for weak points and plausible deniability.

Not that I'm certain of anything. Just very suspicious.

I think some the directed energy beam aficionados think that the fires are started, and the beams are brought in later as a kind of exacerbating element or field test of the weapons out of opportunism.

The military certainly have directed energy beams, the question is if they can be deployed at all in such a manner.

11,000 lightning strikes is quite a lot. Fires would be expected.
However, the Santa Clara area did have a pro level shooting of and electrical substation a few years ago. All these electrical
sites have the merest of protection.

I'm going to say no because if this were JFK all over again, they would have taken out Trump during his first two years.

The fact that some shadow govt needs to create continuous idiot operations to discredit the Prez looks more like the works of bumbling Dr Evil or Boris & Natasha and not the cabal which took out JFK and his brother, a few years afterwards.

Now, what do they do? Fudge with the vote-in ballots of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio. It's clunky and stupid.

What happened in Florida 2000 was that Jeb Bush and his sidekick, Katherine Harris, were already at the helm of one swing state. Now that was serendipity in action.

Here, we have a popular sitting President, meaning that he's popular to the states where the vote counts vs the Boston-to-DC & LA-to-SF corridors which has been known to be blue for ages.

I was up in Big Sur last weekend where they have a huge fire, all the locals told me the fire was set by a cartels revenge buring another cartels illegal grow. Wouldn't be surprised if half the fires where due to cartel wars.

rocketjoe79 says

11,000 lightning strikes is quite a lot. Fires would be expected.

But with new fires more than 2 weeks later?

Dholliday126 says

all the locals told me the fire was set by a cartels revenge buring another cartels illegal grow

That sounds believable.

Well 9 out of 10 fires done by humans as per gov stats.

I shit you not, but the big El Dorado Fire, now encapsualting 10,000 acres, was set off by fireworks at a Gender Reveal party.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/el-dorado-fire-gender-reveal-update-trnd/index.html

The authorities of course won't prosecute them because of their untouchable Protected Class status. Had it been fireworks for a retirement party of an old white guy, they'd have charged anybody who attended.

That being said, the Neoliberal-China-Far Left Alliance is responsible for BLM for certain.

They caught a guy who set fires down the coast.
Maybe he was an illegal growing weed?

Animation of the fires over the past few days, from https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=subregional-SanFran-natcolorfire-200-0-25-12&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

Patrick says

I don't believe that that many fires could have been started by lightning more than two weeks ago, only to start burning in new places now.

If you were China and you wanted to sow havoc in the US, you'd look for weak points and plausible deniability.

Not that I'm certain of anything. Just very suspicious.

@Patrick, a simpler explanation is leftie environmental lunacy - don't clear underbrush, force power companies to invest money in "renewable green" energy instead of maintenance of power lines, etc, and the result is Calizuela. I don't think we need to invent malice where we can explain what happens with politicized incompetence and lack of common sense.

Dholliday126 says

I was up in Big Sur last weekend where they have a huge fire, all the locals told me the fire was set by a cartels revenge buring another cartels illegal grow. Wouldn't be surprised if half the fires where due to cartel wars.

@Dholliday126 It looks like that may be correct:

https://www.thecalifornian.com/story/news/2020/08/19/california-deputies-arrest-arson-suspect-dolan-fire-big-sur/5609484002/

@Patrick

Yep. And supposidly the last couple fires in Big Sur were same thing, cartels feuding over grow sites. The feds dont have any control of our forests. Wouldn't be surprised if 50% of fires were cartel. Meanwhile politicians use the fires as an excuse to push the climate change narrative, it's just sad.

the fires in OR oddly all start in a line within a day. the wind blows west, not south, but the fires spread south. I looked at a map and it does look like all the fire spots are near a highway or road.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=regional-w_northwest-natcolorfire-200-1-25-12&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

I kinda suspect some angry portland BLM NPCs on their righteous quest of "no justice no peace". If they think burning buildings will help their cause, then starting wildfires would be even better, right?

I think it is a sign from God.

Come on, the sars-cov2-19 disease is not a pandemic, certainly not an emergency.

I have a question, if I told you that you had a 0.7 out of 1000 chance of dying within the year from a new mysterious disease, and as a safety measure, we should all shelter in place for at least 6 months - would you think i'm crazy and laugh it off?

Because that's what happened.

Sweden did not shutdown, that's their death rate, and the average age of a victim was 75 - 2 years older than the average American's life expectancy.

https://notthebee.com/article/man-admits-to-starting-dozens-of-fires-in-forests-of-northern-california

A man who set nearly a dozen wildfires in a Northern California national forest pleaded guilty Monday to being a serial arsonist.

Eric Michael Smith, 41, of Redding, entered guilty pleas to four counts of arson in a federal court in Sacramento but acknowledged setting other blazes in his plea agreement, according to the U.S. attorney's office.

Under the agreement, prosecutors will recommend no more than a 33-month sentence. Smith could have faced up to 20 years in prison if convicted of all charges.

Court documents indicated that between June 2019 and July 2020, Smith lit at least 11 fires in the Shasta-Trinity National Forest, many of them in the early morning hours.

Patrick says

I would not be surprised if China is setting fires in the US

The Japanese attempted - and at least one time were successful - in using balloons to land on the Pacific Coast in summer and cause massive fires, in attempt to do industrial damage and more importantly reduce manpower available for military training.

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/man-admits-to-starting-dozens-of-fires-in-forests-of-northern-california

A man who set nearly a dozen wildfires in a Northern California national forest pleaded guilty Monday to being a serial arsonist.

Eric Michael Smith, 41, of Redding, entered guilty pleas to four counts of arson in a federal court in Sacramento but acknowledged setting other blazes in his plea agreement, according to the U.S. attorney's office.

Under the agreement, prosecutors will recommend no more than a 33-month sentence. Smith could have faced up to 20 years in prison if convicted of all charges.

Court documents indicated that between June 2019 and July 2020, Smith lit at least 11 fires in the Shasta-Trinity National Forest, many of them in the early morning hours.

If I recall this dude right, he was a college professor. And woke / commie / climate change nut.

I called it too - since the fires in WA and OR, where it was clear many of them were started by wokers, I now suspect most of the recent fires are from them trying to push climate change fears and/or general sense of chaos in "trumps amerikkka"

MisdemeanorRebel says

at a Gender Reveal party.

Think these parties will be outlawed by wokers? Dont assume your babies gender, bigot.

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/forest-service-says-it-started-all-new-mexicos-largest-wildfire-2022-05-27/

TAOS, N.M., May 27 (Reuters) - Two blazes that grew into New Mexico's largest ever wildfire were both started by the U.S. Forest Service (USFS), the agency said on Friday, prompting the state's governor to demand the federal government take full responsibility for the disaster.

Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a "burn pile" of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited on April 19, the Santa Fe National Forest said in a statement.

Quite useful for "stoking" global warming hysteria, lol.