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Many people believe anything media tells them. Propaganda always works.

Worldometers has all the raw data. My efforts to point people there have largely been met with a collective meh.

That’s sad. It’s only a fairly recent advent where we’ve had easy immediate access to accurate data. That people shun that sort of enlightenment in favor of the words of politicians and “journalists” is a horribly negative statement on our society.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

That people shun that sort of enlightenment in favor of the words of politicians and “journalists” is a horribly negative statement on our society.

Some of these ppl have degrees from places like Harvard and Columbia. And some have even attended grad school.

If they can't do their own pub med work, then they're idiots and/or society's bitch.

They can't hide behind the ... "I'm from the backwoods of Appalachia. I depend upon others telling me what to think"

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Worldometers has all the raw data. My efforts to point people there have largely been met with a collective meh.

They don't know what they're looking at or how to interpret it even though it's basic math. The assumption that you know what you're talking about because you got on TV or work for a publication is out the window. 9.5 out of 10 times media jobs are handed out like candy to connected people to be mouth pieces for their issues.

Hence why 700,000 people dying in a world of almost 8,000,000,000 people isn't a rounding error, it's a pandemic. 50% of the deaths were probably coming in the next year regardless of Covid anyway. I'll round up. 0.009% of the worlds population has died from Covid. 9 people in 100,000 4 of which were going to die anyway... Oh the horror.

Reaction. 95% of people should wear masks, kids don't go to school, businesses close, shut down human interaction as much as possible, etc. Keep up pawns. When they're done with you they'll stab you in the fucking back the first chance they get.

There we go. Thanks 🤣

theOrangeManIsBad says

200K is only 0.06% of the population.

Just a heads up.

So closer to 0.05%. And yes, still a rounding error when you account for polls being +/-4% margins of error and them being off by a much larger percent in '16. But hey 0.05% of people die in this country from an over inflated death count. Cool. Estimated 11k alone in NY died and probably didn't need to. It's a big/huge maybe, but maybe 100k US citizens have died of Covid. And theoretically illegals shouldn't count in the death toll, so who knows how much they're baked into the numbers for political reasons. This is a severe flu without a vaccine and minimal knowledge on therapeutics that are seemingly dropping the death rate to a nothing burger.

Mind you all of what we're talk about is regarding a virus, that one individual has no control over. Has tested the most in the world. Shut down air travel from the outbreak source. None of that matters. It's a virus. We have double the cases with more supposed protection after all that was done. Indisputable. But whatever.

theOrangeManIsBad says

Fuck Fauci and the so-called scientists

Up until this point, you were doing ok as a political rant.

Now, you're in the 'I have no science degree but feel the need to suck off ppl like Fauci' because it makes Trump look bad.

Rin says

Up until this point, you were doing ok as a political rant.

Hence this comment. True colors come through after a while. Has nothing to do with science or data. Just wear a mask man or you’re selfish.

WookieMan says

There we go. Thanks 🤣

theOrangeManIsBad says

Why would anyone respect Fauci for his scientific opinion?

It's been notably wrong with Covid, his scientific opinion that is. Not going to dig around right now and I was too young to remember in real time, but didn't he have some major fuck ups with the AIDS response?

Also, given his age, I have no faith in his mental acuity at this point. 79 almost 80 is too old to be making medical decisions that impact an entire country of 330M. And that's not only medically, but literally he's pulled the decision trigger on things that have decimated the economy at 79 years old. As a non-practicing doctor he should know better to have hung it up a while ago, but didn't. Make one wonder, why?

And yes, Trump is likely not nearly as sharp as he was 20 years ago. We already know Biden isn't. They are both geezers and I wish we had better options. It's the SOP of having to choose the lesser of 2 evils every 4 years. Trump is a known commodity at this point after having been completely vetted by our own intelligence agencies through illegal warrants. If you want Biden, pull that lever, no one cares though.

WookieMan says

theOrangeManIsBad says

200K is only 0.06% of the population.

Just a heads up.

So closer to 0.05%. And yes, still a rounding error when you account for polls being +/-4% margins of error and them being off by a much larger percent in '16. But hey 0.05% of people die in this country from an over inflated death count. Cool. Estimated 11k alone in NY died and probably didn't need to. It's a big/huge maybe, but maybe 100k US citizens have died of Covid. And theoretically illegals shouldn't count in the death toll, so who knows how much they're baked into the numbers for political reasons. This is a severe flu without a vaccine and minimal knowledge on therapeutics that are seemingly dropping the death rate to a nothing burger.

Mind you all of what we're talk about is regarding a viru...

Actually it’s 3% with those numbers. Deaths/cases X 100% = result

But studies with antibodies show that 10-50 times as many actual cases have happened, where people got the Covid and recovered without being tested. Assuming 10X cases tested, that does indeed work out to 0.3% death rate.

Actually, I scored a 34 on the MCAT and will be attending medical school as a retirement hobby because I don't need the money but have the know-how.

And unlike Fauci, I will be recommending Quercetin and not lying to ppl about the use of supplements for better health.

Ah, to go to school in the era of fake science and the medico-pharma-industrial complex! It will squash the insect doctor at the practice level.

It used to be that science could be wrong subject to revision, but sincere. Now, it is not only insincere, it is just another organ of fake news and political/social manipulation. I guess those printing press diplomas come in handy somewhere in the control bureaucracy. Let the mendacious bureaucrats of medical superstition prevail!

Capture the institutions! Capture them all!

Medical errors are possibly the third leading cause of death.
Turns out seeing a Doctor is more dangerous than smoking:
https://journals.lww.com/journalpatientsafety/Fulltext/2013/09000/A_New,_Evidence_based_Estimate_of_Patient_Harms.2.aspx

There is little that I would seek treatment for anymore except trauma.

Richard Horton, editor in chief of The Lancet said this in 2015:
"The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue"

Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor in chief of NEJM wrote in 2009 that,
"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor"

Dr. Relman another former editor in chief of the NEJM said this in 2002
"The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful"

Robert Sproul says

There is little that I would seek treatment for anymore except trauma.

Agreed 100% as someone that was misdiagnosed for an entire month and multiple opinions. It was a fluke case for my age, but gall bladder was bad. Not one out of 3 different docs even thought of it until I mentioned it. One doc even marked my chart as it being Hep C and I had issues for years with it and still may for that being on there. If I have a liver issue as a cause of death and hep c shows up in my history (didn't have it) and I didn't list it on a life insurance form, my wife and family could be completely fucked out of hundreds of thousands.

I don't think people really understand how poor of a job a lot of docs do. Second guess everything.

I think you know the answer. I still work in finance, make good money, and have a sliver of equity left. I don't intend on making money in the medical profession so it's my last gig.

As for treatments, I can do whatever I like with ppl I know since it's 'word of mouth', involves supplements protected by the dietary act, and can't be stopped.

Most MDs have little training in nutritional supplements. In fact, most of the ones I know, didn't even know that Thioctic acid (R-Lipoic Acid) helps limit adult onset diabetes by increasing insulin sensitivity.

theOrangeManIsBad says

We were talking about current deaths per capita of population. You are talking about infection fatality rate (IFR), which most people peg at 0.2 to 1.4 or so. IFR is a function of age and health as well as medical care. At this point in the US, while the adults take care and the kids are out spreading CV, the IFR is going to be lower than it was early on.

Kids hardly spread CV. The younger the adult the lesser the likelihood of symptoms and spread. School kids pretty much don't spread at all.