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1   Patrick   2020 Aug 2, 4:00pm  

I actually wrote Fauci's guys at https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director-contacts

I got a response from one of them!

I asked for even one single study which showed that HCQ didn't work when given early.

He gave me a study without zinc, lol.

When I pointed out that they didn't use zinc in that study, he stopped responding.
2   Rin   2020 Aug 2, 5:07pm  

My question is the Azithromyin? I mean that's basically adding something for an opportunistic bacterial infection, having nothing to do with the Zinc transport.

If you want an actual clinical trial and not one, trying to misdirect the reader, since antibiotics, aside from Garlic's Allicin have little to do with viruses,
3   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Aug 2, 5:35pm  

CNN:
(1) Spread fake news and rumors, but claim Trump is spreading fake news and rumors
(2) When a whole bunch of people die because of CNN's fake news and rumors, blame it on Trump by claiming it was Trump's fake news and rumors
(3) Profit!
4   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Aug 2, 5:37pm  

CNN claim: HCQ is dangerous and has dangerous side effects. (Therefore: Orange Man Bad!)

Reality: HCQ has been prescribed many millions of times over many decades.
More Reality: Doctors around the world are prescribing HCQ (and hopefully zinc) for patients with early covid19 sympoms
Even more reality: Doctors are, themselves, proactively taking HCQ.
5   mell   2020 Aug 2, 5:49pm  

Rin says
My question is the Azithromyin? I mean that's basically adding something for an opportunistic bacterial infection, having nothing to do with the Zinc transport.

If you want an actual clinical trial and not one, trying to misdirect the reader, since antibiotics, aside from Garlic's Allicin have little to do with viruses,


AZM has actually shown potent antiviral properties in many viruses, in vitro and in vivo. Also Ivarmectin is a good candidate. There are plenty of anti-viral options that likely will help when given early.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7290142/
6   Ceffer   2020 Aug 2, 6:16pm  

Covid isn't a war against a virus pandemic. It's a war against the undeserved freedom and rights of the people. All wars have casualties, so the raw fact that any 'true' Covid deaths are eclipsed by deaths generated by 'Covid Measures' kinds of begs the question.
7   Shaman   2020 Aug 2, 7:15pm  

Scott Adams is a clear thinking individual. I listen to his podcast a fair bit for his insights on current events. He comes up with some surprising ideas! I think he’s a fairly wise person, and worth listening to.
8   mell   2020 Aug 2, 7:50pm  

@Patrick I think if you like the same comment on 2 different tabs they cancel each other out.
9   Onvacation   2020 Aug 2, 8:41pm  

mell says
@Patrick I think if you like the same comment on 2 different tabs they cancel each other out.

Probably a check box type control tied to a data base field. Each time you click it it changes the status.

Next time like it in three tabs.
10   Patrick   2020 Aug 2, 8:44pm  

Onvacation says
mell says
Patrick I think if you like the same comment on 2 different tabs they cancel each other out.

Probably a check box type control tied to a data base field. Each time you click it it changes the status.

Next time like it in three tabs.


@mell, Yes, you're right about that. Never occurred to me before. I don't think it's actually a bug though, since each logged in user gets one like per comment.
11   mell   2020 Aug 2, 8:49pm  

Patrick says
Onvacation says
mell says
Patrick I think if you like the same comment on 2 different tabs they cancel each other out.

Probably a check box type control tied to a data base field. Each time you click it it changes the status.

Next time like it in three tabs.


@mell, Yes, you're right about that. Never occurred to me before. I don't think it's actually a bug though, since each logged in user gets one like per comment.


Right but it doesn't update the other tab so you think you may not have liked it yet and instead cancel your other like. Totally unimportant but happened to me. I get ADDish about stuff like that and then need to "investigate" ;)
12   mell   2020 Aug 2, 8:54pm  

Onvacation says
mell says
@Patrick I think if you like the same comment on 2 different tabs they cancel each other out.

Probably a check box type control tied to a data base field. Each time you click it it changes the status.

Next time like it in three tabs.


Yes! Basically it has to be an odd numbers of tabs but you also have to make sure you like it in all. That's why there is as a always work for coders.
13   Patrick   2020 Aug 2, 8:59pm  

mell says
AZM has actually shown potent antiviral properties in many viruses, in vitro and in vivo.


This was a surprise to me, but seems to be true.

Most antibiotics seem to work by interfering with bacterial cell wall creation, but viruses don't have cell walls, so it's not clear how it could work against Wuhan virus.

But it does in fact seem to.
14   mell   2020 Aug 2, 9:12pm  

Possibly by stimulating the interferon response, but also possibly in other ways. Still not really clear and more research is needed.
15   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Aug 2, 10:30pm  

Patrick says
@mell, Yes, you're right about that. Never occurred to me before. I don't think it's actually a bug though, since each logged in user gets one like per comment.

I'm guessing the current logic is a click toggles the database field. Better would be that when you serve out a page you encode yes/no in the link itself. i.e.: when you are serving out the text that says "like" the click sets the field in the database, but if you serve out the text that says "you like this" the link is different and instead clears the field in the database (regardless of the field's value).

Or you could increase your computer resources by 1000x and have continuous live connections to each open window/tab so you can push changes made from other windows/tabs.
16   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2020 Aug 3, 9:00am  

Germany is the Bellwether for Commiedom, if the Germans are fed up and protesting in the millions against this covid bullshit. Then I expect it end soon, the establishment can't keep this up.
18   Misc   2020 Aug 3, 3:50pm  

If you were hoping for any scientific basis for the suspension you would be mistaken. The FDA based its decision to stop HCQ based on a database search of derogatory terms with HCQ treatments. --- Just a database search, no follow-up with attending physicians or medical studies.

Oh, here's the link the the FDA garbage report.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2020/OSE%20Review_Hydroxychloroquine-Cholorquine%20-%2019May2020_Redacted.pdf

Here's the part that says this database search is worthless.

FAERS data have limitations. First, there is no certainty that the reported event was actually due
to the product. FDA does not require that a causal relationship between a product and event be
proven, and reports do not always contain enough detail to properly evaluate an event. Further,
FDA does not receive reports for every adverse event or medication error that occurs with a
product. Many factors can influence whether or not an event will be reported, such as the time a
product has been marketed and publicity about an event. Therefore, FAERS data cannot be used
to calculate the incidence of an adverse event or medication error in the U.S. population.
19   Patrick   2020 Aug 3, 9:04pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/dr-simone-gold-fired/

One of the doctors who spoke in the “White Coat Summit” press conference promoting hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 has been fired after the video went viral and received media criticism. Dr. Simone Gold was fired a couple of days after the press conference by the “American Frontline Doctors.”

Dr. Gold specializes in emergency medicine. She graduated from The Chicago Medical School in 1989, meaning she has more than three decades of experience in the medical field.

As an ER doctor, Dr. Gold has been treating COVID-19 patients since the pandemic started. In the press conference that got her fired, she claimed that she observed remarkable improvement in COVID-19 patients after administering hydroxychloroquine.
20   Patrick   2020 Aug 3, 9:06pm  

Rin says
My question is the Azithromyin? I mean that's basically adding something for an opportunistic bacterial infection, having nothing to do with the Zinc transport.


Dr. Zelenko also said that. He thinks the azithromycin is just to prevent opportunistic bacterial infection.

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