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Lefties are starting to suspect the Revolution is about to eat its parents.


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2020 Jul 8, 11:10am   828 views  11 comments

by Eric Holder   ➕follow (5)   💰tip   ignore  

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The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted. While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty. We uphold the value of robust and even caustic counter-speech from all quarters. But it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms. Editors are fired for running controversial pieces; books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class; a researcher is fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study; and the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes. Whatever the arguments around each particular incident, the result has been to steadily narrow the boundaries of what can be said without the threat of reprisal. We are already paying the price in greater risk aversion among writers, artists, and journalists who fear for their livelihoods if they depart from the consensus, or even lack sufficient zeal in agreement.

This stifling atmosphere will ultimately harm the most vital causes of our time. The restriction of debate, whether by a repressive government or an intolerant society, invariably hurts those who lack power and makes everyone less capable of democratic participation. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away. We refuse any false choice between justice and freedom, which cannot exist without each other. As writers we need a culture that leaves us room for experimentation, risk taking, and even mistakes. We need to preserve the possibility of good-faith disagreement without dire professional consequences. If we won’t defend the very thing on which our work depends, we shouldn’t expect the public or the state to defend it for us.


https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/

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1   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 8, 11:13am  

Signed, among others, by Fareed Zakaria, Matthew Yglesias, Noam Chomsky...
2   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jul 8, 11:14am  

"Noam Chomsky, MIT (emeritus)"

Now today the Left is calling for Noam's head on a platter. I was wondering when the kids Noam and his ilk were agitating to hate Old people, just not them, would eventually turn on them as well.
3   EBGuy   2020 Jul 8, 11:46am  

“Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.”
― Noam Chomsky
www.youtube.com/embed/mPhnkOYK9Is
4   Shaman   2020 Jul 8, 11:55am  

Krystal and Saagar really get it. They cover the news that ordinary journalists fear to talk about!
5   EBGuy   2020 Jul 8, 12:48pm  

I like this response from Malcolm Gladwell.

I signed the Harpers letter because there were lots of people who also signed the Harpers letter whose views I disagreed with. I thought that was the point of the Harpers letter. https://t.co/ozFsAmXq9R

— Malcolm Gladwell (@Gladwell) July 8, 2020
6   Kepi   2020 Jul 8, 3:04pm  

Tenpoundbass says
Now today the Left is calling for Noam's head on a platter. I was wondering when the kids Noam and his ilk were agitating to hate Old people, just not them, would eventually turn on them as well.


That is interesting.
9   Karloff   2020 Jul 8, 3:29pm  

That Rising clip is pretty good, but misses on a few points.

Ball identifies the cancel culture problem, but mostly dismisses it as "not a major concern". To not recognize the seriousness of what is occurring today is to turn a blind eye to what is, effectively, a neo-Bolshevik takeover of Western countries. Maybe she's too young to remember what happened under communist rule, and attended a school system that papered over or refused to address the horrors, which would not come as a surprise considering the Leftists have infiltrated and control most of the school system.

The other error they make is claiming Trump is a danger to democracy because of his threat to bring in the military to silence "peaceful" protestors. This completely disregards the looting, arson, and murders that were taking place, with local governments DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it. In the end, by doing nothing, he allowed these traitorous mayors and governors to show the public their true colors, but how many people died that didn't have to? A real damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
10   Karloff   2020 Jul 8, 5:28pm  

From that reason article, again, "It made no bones of the fact that President Donald Trump and right-wing authoritarianism in Europe are both major threats to liberal society."

Fact? Fact?? I suppose that depends on what you define as a "liberal society". And what "right-wing authoritarianism in Europe" are they referring to? My guess would be the few nations like Hungary who don't have some insane obsession to wipe out their own culture by importing a foreign one en-masse. If that's their definition of liberal society, then I'm happy to see there are some threats to it.
11   Karloff   2020 Jul 8, 9:15pm  

The reason.com article had a few good links in the comments section on this letter. Here's one:

The Truth About Critical Methods by James Lindsay

A.K.A. Cultural Marxism. Whine, bitch, and complain until something is changed, keep doing it until everything is destroyed. Build your new utopia upon the ashes, which then turns out to be a totalitarian hellhole responsible for the murder of millions. Feign shock and confusion as to why it didn't work. Repeat the mistake ~80 years in the future claiming the real utopia wasn't achieved before, but this time you're sure it will be..

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