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22   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 4:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
Nothing on the links above says anyting about Trump not being allowed to visit, rape vans belonging to the indians and such.
So look it up for yourself. Why depend on my comments?

Fuckin A here’s your golden opportunity to declare yourself victorious because I failed to provide comprehensive documented answers to any and all questions.
23   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Jul 6, 4:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Eric Holder says
Nothing on the links above says anyting about Trump not being allowed to visit, rape vans belonging to the indians and such.
So look it up for yourself.


It's impossible to look up something that doesn't exist.
24   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 4:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shaman says
CBOEtrader says
SPELL. OUT. YOUR. ISSUE


His people don’t have absolute dictator control over everyone yet. It’s very sad.
WTF ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT NOW?
25   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 4:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says

It's impossible to look up something that doesn't exist
That’s right.

So WTF are you saying?
26   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 4:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Eric Holder says
rape vans belonging to the indians
WTF

Rape?

Are you nuts?

What are you saying? What is your point?
27   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Jul 6, 5:03pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Are you nuts?


Fuck off.
29   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 5:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Son of a bitches keep deliberately wasting my time hoping to get some love from the cult.
30   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 5:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Is there nobody else to make a comment on topic with some real value to it?

Why not?

Is this just a place for extremists to celebrate their expressions of bigotry to delight each other and gain cult status doing that?

Make civil debate, okay? I’m making that demand on YOU.
31   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2020 Jul 6, 5:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
I’m making that demand on YOU.

I think all of these were broken by US Govt:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/ntreaty.asp

The only treaty between Indians and settlers not broken was between Comanche and German immigrants at Fredericksburg:
https://www.texascooppower.com/texas-stories/history/the-unbroken-peace-treaty

The question is what to do? Return all lands to Indians? That would be fair, but somewhat impractical.
32   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 5:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
The question is what to do?
In the case of South Dakota and the Black Hills the USA need only stop invading and start recognizing and respect the rights of the legal owners because our Constitution dictates that we do that.

If we fail that then we define ourselves as thieves that are highly invested in our military forces and our moral high ground vanishes so our federal buildings and grand monuments become laughable lies.
33   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 6, 6:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Were we all suckers to believe that the USA stood for something more noble than a pack of greedy rats with a big army to glorify them, salute them and lay down their lives?
34   Rb6d   ignore (0)   2020 Jul 6, 8:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
respect the rights of the legal owners because our Constitution dictates that we do that.

why only Black Hills, and not 4/5 of USA that belongs to Indians according to various now broken treaties?
35   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2020 Jul 6, 9:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Were we all suckers to believe that the USA stood for something more noble than a pack of greedy rats with a big army to glorify them, salute them and lay down their lives?


Then leave for another country. Or shut up.

Good luck with that since EVERY country on Earth is constituted by peoples/governments that stole its territory from someone else, with VERY FEW exceptions like Iceland. ALL of the Americas, Africa, Asia, Europe & Australia definitely are 100% stolen lands.

So have fun living in Iceland!
36   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 7, 1:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
The tribe that owns this land should control who is welcomed there and who is not, and for what purposes, since the land is tribal territory.


You are proposing land reparations to my people? We accept.

Whatever land you give to a tribe though, the POTUS is still welcome, no?
37   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 7, 7:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

What does thia have to do w Trump again?
38   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jul 7, 7:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
This association game is as weak as it is ambiguous. SPELL. OUT. YOUR. ISSUE. If you have one, that is.

I bet you cant.


Thank you Chief Big Ole Etrader.
39   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2020 Jul 7, 7:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Were we all suckers to believe that the USA stood for something more noble than a pack of greedy rats with a big army to glorify them, salute them and lay down their lives?

Just move if the US is so shitty for you. Plenty of other nice first world countries out there. Stop bitching about it. Or run for office and change things instead of constantly bitching about it. You accomplish nothing by doing so.
40   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jul 7, 7:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Were we all suckers to believe that the USA stood for something more noble than a pack of greedy rats with a big army to glorify them, salute them and lay down their lives?


If that's how you feel about those that have fought and died for your freedom, then you're opinion doesn't matter.

You can do the laying down of life before we get to the point, the Democrats are dragging America too, or we can defend it and keep it over there.

Obama fucked America and brought all of that shit here. You better pray Jazz that Trump manages to pull America through this rough patch.

What ever Fantasy you have about America oppressing you because Trump won and it gave you the sads. You have no idea what the Commies have in store for the Useful Idiots that helped them overthrow the host government of the country they infected. They can't keep people like BLM and Antifa, well the upper leadership the ones that manipulating you and others like you to think you've been wronged somehow during the most peaceful period of humanity History and agitated the turmoil we have now. They just can't leave people like that running around. So you know what happens every single time? The ones manipulating you though, they'll go on to leadership roles.

They round them all up and feed them lead, with guns, and toss their bodies into a mass grave and covered up. They are done with them and discard them, they can not be kept around they are trained dissidents by them, they know how acidic they are to any government or society.

Now that scenario is the happy go lucky fate for the Useful idiots, the one that will really suck. Is the one where the Patriots don't let that happen, and when they come to put the Commie take over to bed. There's nowhere for the BLM and Antifa agitators and commie fucks to hide. And you wont get blindfolds, last smoke or the wall. Just the America freedom meat grinder.


But make no mistake, you WILL understand why all of those soldiers fought and died for this country when the shit hits the fan.
41   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 7, 12:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Just move if the US is so shitty for you.
If this thread hurts your feelings there are plenty other posts to comment on, some are very critical of other things in America

Many subjects here reflect well on Trump.

Why not make your own post? Like "LEVERAGED SMALL LANDLORDS FEAR HOUSING MARKET CHANGE."

I made some substantial contributions to discussions here and you should stop your bitching about that.

Just saying. Do you think anyone would ever move because you don't like their post? Are you that awesome? Or do you just want me to know that you have feelz?
42   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2020 Jul 7, 2:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
They refused several millions for the land because the land has a similar significance to their beliefs


So? That doesn't mean that they are legally entitled to that land. You now, as in Rule of Law legally entitled?

SCOTUS found fault in the US government, ordered Congress to pay damages, Congress did.

Treaty or not treaty the Dakota's were legally annexed in other legislation. Furthermore, additional legislation purposed that particular land for a national park/monument. Tribals had no case to overturn that. So SCOTUS directed $100 million in 1980 dollars to be put into a trust fund on the tribe's behalf. It's now worth about $1 billion now.
43   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2020 Jul 7, 3:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
If this thread hurts your feelings there are plenty other posts to comment on, some are very critical of other things in America

I don't have feelings. lol. You do. Move. Otherwise stop complaining or be a part of the solution. I am. You're not.
44   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 7, 4:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
be a part of the solution. I am. You're not.
Explain
45   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 7, 4:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
WookieMan says
be a part of the solution. I am. You're not.
Explain

America, love it, or leave it.
46   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 7, 4:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Onvacation says
America, love it, or leave it.
Suicide is painless
47   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jul 7, 4:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Did you know Joe Biden's son likes to go to strip clubs and get pegged in the ass with a strap on dildo by the dyke strippers while his Dad watches?
48   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 7, 7:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Onvacation says
America, love it, or leave it.
Suicide is painless

Thought you were ignoring me?
49   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2020 Jul 7, 7:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
WookieMan says
be a part of the solution. I am. You're not.
Explain

I'm an elected official. I don't need to explain further. People can bitch and whine all they want. Step up to the plate is what I say. Otherwise move or shut the F up.
50   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 7, 9:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
People can bitch and whine all they want.
Yeah, that’s how it is with Trump, like that speech at the Black Hills.

Holding office is common among landlords. (and retired cops)
51   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jul 7, 9:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
move or shut the F up.
Are you like that with everyone? Mostly tenants huh?
52   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2020 Jul 8, 6:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
WookieMan says
move or shut the F up.
Are you like that with everyone? Mostly tenants huh?

I'm not a landlord or property manager anymore. Don't need to. And my statement stands. If this country is so bad either fix it or leave. I personally thought the country was in great shape. If you wanted a job you could get one. Lots of good things were happening. Traction was gaining on an infrastructure bill that would have helped millions of American either get jobs or make more money.

I don't know, maybe it is bad for you and the people you know. 9 out of 10 times that is self inflicted and blaming others or POTUS is a blame game instead of taking personal accountability. So yeah, I get harsh when I see people excuse making and pointing the finger. Check the mirror sometimes....
53   MrEd   ignore (3)   2020 Jul 8, 6:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

So he was a democrat...
jazz_music says
Rushmore was so renamed after a gold miner who evidently got away with extracting gold from Tribal land under the recently upheld treaty of Fort Laramie in 1868

https://www.truthorfiction.com/mount-rushmore-before-carving/

The artist never finished the carving project and was a KKK supporter and very likely a member of KKK.
54   MrEd   ignore (3)   2020 Jul 8, 6:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Yes.
But the real suckers are the ones that think the rest of the world is anything but.
What you can't seen to get over is the fact you are born into a predatory species.

jazz_music says
Were we all suckers to believe that the USA stood for something more noble than a pack of greedy rats with a big army to glorify them, salute them and lay down their lives?
55   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 8, 7:02am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
he tribe that owns this land should control who is welcomed there and who is not, and for what purposes, since the land is tribal territory.

It is said that the land is highly sacred to the owners of it. So all rights and privileges of ownership should belong to them.

The sixth amendment of the Constitution of the United States prescribes that upholding our treaties shall be primary in our rule of law.


What does any of this have to do with Trump?

My Indian card says I am 13/128th's Rosebud Lakota:) How much of Mt Rushmore ownership do I get? Why stop at Mt Rushmore? If this is Native land, then leave. You are living on my tribal land, you occupier!
56   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2020 Jul 8, 10:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
My Indian card says I am 13/128th's Rosebud Lakota:) How much of Mt Rushmore ownership do I get?


You get a choice of one pimple from the face of either Lincoln or Washington. Not full ownership though: you'll share it with 127 fellow Lakotas.
57   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jul 12, 9:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TrumpingTits says
with VERY FEW exceptions like Iceland


Actually, the vikings ran into a few eskimo types in Iceland, and killed them.
58   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Jul 12, 10:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
TrumpingTits says
with VERY FEW exceptions like Iceland


Actually, the vikings ran into a few eskimo types in Iceland, and killed them.


It was a dog eat dog world back then, without strong people like the Vikings and even mass rapists like Genghis Khan many of us would not be here today. Fuck leftoids.
59   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Aug 1, 11:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@jazz_music Sorry I was offensive before. I'm really trying to understand and reduce political polarization now.
60   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Aug 2, 2:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@patrick Thank you, I appreciate the apology.

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