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In the United States, right-wing violence is on the rise


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2020 Jun 23, 8:00am   2,235 views  46 comments

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I was looking for evidence of Jazz's assertion that right wing violence is on the rise. A little dated but here is what I found:

Over the past decade, attackers motivated by right-wing political ideologies have committed dozens of shootings, bombings and other acts of violence, far more than any other category of domestic extremist, according to a Washington Post analysis of data on global terrorism. While the data show a decades-long drop-off in violence by left-wing groups, violence by white supremacists and other far-right attackers has been on the rise since Barack Obama’s presidency — and has surged since President Trump took office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-the-united-states-right-wing-violence-is-on-the-rise/2018/11/25/61f7f24a-deb4-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html

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2   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 23, 10:27am  

Which one of the 18+ dead during riots and protests will be applied to terrorism?

Why shouldn't we count people who died due to a left-organized disorder, such as David Dorn, to left wing terrorism? Would Dorn have died on an ordinary night and been at the Pawn Shop guarding it if not for leftist organized protests?

Cutting it off at 1980 is a grave distortion.

Remember the Weathermen and Black Panthers in the late 60s and 70s robbing banks and armored cars, setting off bombs.

What is the top number, is that the USA?

There's a thread on this elsewhere, there's a big problem with reporting by NGOs. They do things like count the Las Vegas Sniper as Right Wing, but there's absolutely bupkiss evidence that was his motivation, and no law enforcement organization came to that conclusion.
3   Ceffer   2020 Jun 23, 10:44am  

FBI statistics? Amazing. I thought they were too busy distributing FBI coffee mugs and blue ribbons to the looters.
4   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 23, 10:45am  

If that were only true, those piss stains would have never been in DC last night threatening my President and my tax paid Park Police.

But I'm still hopeful you'll be right eventually.


The Left really truly needs to understand, that America is letting Trump handle this.

If Trump were not president and Hillary was using the Filthy Communist Scumbag Rat Infestation to dominate American patriots.

There would be a new provisional government by now. Please every Liberal must understand this, and implore your political leadership to change course.
Because a provisional government in the US wont be a peaceful transition.
5   Ceffer   2020 Jun 23, 10:49am  

Why dignify Jazz' assertions fallacies and agitprop repeating station blather as anything resembling reality?
6   Misc   2020 Jun 23, 10:55am  

Radical Islamic Terrorists are Right-Wing.

It makes sense these violent criminals' attacks have been increasing.
7   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Jun 23, 1:07pm  

Reported violent crime rate has been dropping consistently over the last 3 decades. I think the WaPo and other extensions of the DNC media campaign are cherry picking.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
8   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 2:12pm  

jazz_music says
How about something specific to the current uprising?

https://www.businessinsider.com/one-person-shot-at-albuquerque-protest-against-oate-statue-2020-6

Shooter was a HISPANIC! named Baca defending statue of his forefathers from white rich racists who were trying to topple it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baca_family_of_New_Mexico

The progenitors of the Baca family of New Mexico were Cristóbal Baca (Vaca) and his wife Ana Ortiz. Cristóbal was a military captain from Mexico City who arrived in 1600 with his family in order to help reinforce the Spanish colonial Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico province in the Viceroyalty of New Spain. At the time, they had three grown daughters and a small son. The Bacas had another son while living in Nuevo Mexico.[1] the family then moved to Grants, New Mexico.
9   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 23, 2:33pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
Reported violent crime rate has been dropping consistently over the last 3 decades. I think the WaPo and other extensions of the DNC media campaign are cherry picking.


"If we put in 3 strikes and welfare reform, crime will explode!" - Libbies, early 90s.

Imagine what will happen with EVEN MOAR Welfare Reform.
10   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 23, 2:41pm  

jazz_music says
I'm outside the cult.


Cultists always think the normal world is rotten and evil.
11   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 2:49pm  

jazz_music says
So you went out to search for right wing violence and found out that violence doesn't exist unless it's left wing

I was being sarcastic. From what I understand, rich white kids, ergo Antifa, were trying to topple statue of Juan de Oñate y Salazar. Statue was defended by some people, one of whom was aforementioned Hispanic Baca who was attacked by the racist Antifa (who are white, so less oppressed than Hispanics). Baca shot one of attackers who was pummeling him with a skateboard. So, which side is responsible for violence is questionable. However, what is not questionable, is that white Antifa is oppressing and attacking Hispanics. According to Oppression Olympics and Grievance Studies Antifa are guilty in this case.
12   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 2:51pm  

jazz_music says
All you read is HISPANIC?!?!?

Of course, isn't that the new way how we are supposed to filter news? The more oppressed someone is, the less guilty they can be!
13   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 3:02pm  

Sarcasm aside, I get why people may hate the statue of Juan de Oñate - he used to cut off feet of people from conquered tribes. However, just pulling down statues is completely wrong, and there is a fair number of Hispanics who descend from Spanish colonial armies or settlers and may consider this to be their history. So, have a dialogue, vote, and decide peacefully if statue has to be in town square or museum. Don't initiate violence.

With regards to New Mexico police, we need local Indian tribe police to be brought to justice, as they tend to pull over and ticket anyone who does not belong to their respective tribe.
14   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 3:02pm  

jazz_music says
You must have accidentally forgot to read this part
members of a volunteer militia, which calls itself the New Mexico Civil Guard. The group has been a regular and heavily armed sight at recent Black Lives Matter protests


"some people" mmmmm yeah, some people alright.

Must be more New Mexico Hispanics.
15   EBGuy   2020 Jun 23, 3:31pm  

Per ADL report on Murder and Extremism in the United States, 2019 (released Feb. 2020), last year would have been a record low for extremist murders but for the shooting spree at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, in August, which left 22 people dead.
Domestic Extremist Related Killings (per ADL report):
2015: 70
2016: 76
2017: 41 (Trump Presidency begins)
2018: 53
2019: 42
16   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 4:12pm  

jazz_music says
In the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, Dan Gregory fell to the ground, shot in the shoulder, after he attempted to stop a black Honda Civic headed toward a group of protesters, he said.


We all seen that video and that WaPo description is pure bullshit. In reality he attacked the driver, tried to punch him through the open window and only then was shot. You can't just punch people for slowly "heading toward a group of protesters" - it's illegal. The driver was dark-skinned, btw, and there is no information wrt his political leanings.
17   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 4:28pm  

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
We all
Damn,

Delusions of grandieur

You too?


Yes, I also saw the video. Me too. Seeing a video before commenting on in is "grandieur" in your book? Did YOU watch it?
18   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 4:29pm  

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
The driver was dark-skinned, btw,
That outweighs all other information on the subject


It adds to it.
19   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jun 23, 4:36pm  

21   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 4:41pm  

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
Yes, I also saw the video. Me too.
Oh I see.

What happened to your great "we?"


Nothing happened to our great "we": tens of thousands of us saw the video. Check the youtube counter for exact number.

Sorry your attempt to drum up some fake right-wing violence has failed so miserably.
22   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 4:41pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Nooooooooooooooo!
23   Bd6r   2020 Jun 23, 4:42pm  

jazz_music says
Daniel Peña

another oppressed Hispanic. Note his skin color and work truck - he is definitely oppressed by lily white affluent protester womyn he threatens with a chainsaw
24   just_passing_through   2020 Jun 23, 9:18pm  

Uh oh jazz... That keeps happening to me on tripadvisor this week. Apparently Hawaiians don't like being told they are dumb lazy ignorant assholes that should quit bitching and make use of that nice University we put there for them.
25   CBOEtrader   2020 Jun 23, 9:57pm  

jazz_music says
There is no evidence of any organized left-wing violence at the protests —


Hahahhaha
26   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Jun 23, 9:59pm  

CBOEtrader says
jazz_music says
There is no evidence of any organized left-wing violence at the protests —


Hahahhaha


for starters (or does Jazz think that youtube already scrubbed all rioter violence off):
www.youtube.com/embed/ZiQqpRT4OU8
27   CBOEtrader   2020 Jun 23, 9:59pm  

rd6B says
jazz_music says
Daniel Peña

another oppressed Hispanic. Note his skin color and work truck - he is definitely oppressed by lily white affluent protester womyn he threatens with a chainsaw


In factless jazz world, hes a right wing white supremacist. Exactly like all those KKK organized car attacks... Those arent just scared civilians getting out with their lives from rabid crowds of violent rioters. Nope. Those are right wing rabble rousers
28   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 23, 11:30pm  

jazz_music says
Nobody’s got any links to proud boys attacks?

Nobody’s got any links to Boogaloo attacks?

Of course not, they didn’t happen.


Exactly. Stop inventing shit.
29   theoakman   2020 Jun 24, 7:13am  

Look at the bright side, left wing violence has been on the decline the past 2 weeks, since they were trying to burn down every fucking city we have prior to that.
30   CBOEtrader   2020 Jun 24, 7:23am  

jazz_music says
incidents all over the country involving violence and proud boys


Almost every proud boy "incident" is a street fight against a violent antifa. Proud Boys are a crude bunch. They are however neither terrorists nor criminals. Antifa, otoh, will be classified as terrorists...yet NONE of their incidents are recorded in the GTD to which all your fake news links.

The GTD is a hilarious example of Washpo lie list style fake news. Step 1) start with 200k annual violent crimes in USA. Step 2) Selectively choose 50 of the 200k violent crimes from your chosen slander group. Step 3) sprinkle in 100 non-criminal "reports" from wanna be jussie smollets. Step 4) Report the 100 to 200 incidents per year as scientific "proof" of terrorism within your political opponents. Step 5) Hand these "reports" to useful idiots to parrot with zero research.

I found a 16 year old school shooter they classified a "white supremacist" terrorist. LOLZ. The evidence?: https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/IncidentSummary.aspx?gtdid=201805180023 "05/18/2018: An assailant opened fire at Santa Fe High School in Santa Fe, Texas, United States. At least 10 people, including students and teachers, were killed and 14 people, including the assailant, were injured in the attack. Additionally, fake explosive devices were discovered in and around the school. An unaffiliated individual, identified as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, claimed responsibility for the incident. Sources noted that Pagourtzis was interested in Nazism and fascism and had recently posted pictures of German nationalist symbols and a picture of him wearing a T-shirt stating "born to kill" on social media."

Of course the classifiers completely ignored the hammer and sickle also found along with every other dark angsty teen symbol known. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44173960 "The Communist hammer and sickle pin, he said, stood for "rebellion", and a depiction of the idol Baphomet symbolised "Evil"." Nope, this hammer and sickle wearing 17 year old crazy kid is obviously a product of white supremacy terrorism.

Theres no more escuse for believing the lies. Idiots.
31   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 24, 7:34am  

FortWayneIndiana says
CBOEtrader says
jazz_music says
There is no evidence of any organized left-wing violence at the protests —


Hahahhaha


for starters (or does Jazz think that youtube already scrubbed all rioter violence off):
www.youtube.com/embed/ZiQqpRT4OU8


Damn. A 12 guage would have taken care of that shit quickly.
32   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 24, 3:00pm  

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
Sorry your attempt to drum up some fake right-wing violence has failed so miserably.
You need to apologize for your apologies


No, I don't.
33   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 24, 3:07pm  

jazz_music says
FuckCCP89 says
No, I don't.
That's why you need to be ignored


Go ahead.
34   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 24, 3:20pm  

jazz_music says
CBOEtrader says
Theres no more escuse
There is the useful idiot machine.

The right wing has this hate media frying their little vestigial brains riling them up against people who want to see the GOP go away forever.

Right wing has their militia training camps, including worship of Hitler and violence as a philosophy, there's your satanic warrior posers. They have their little parades and hate festivals. You got bigots against both muslims, immigrants and hispanics who feel that all those categories represent existential threats and you have websites, cable TV, radio and announcers taking advantage of all of them.


35   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 24, 3:27pm  

jazz_music says
I don't know why I ever spent a second reading that trash.


Maybe because you have nothing better to do? Got a job?
36   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Jun 24, 3:58pm  

best part of this article is how left wing burned down a huge chunk of America. And the only article WP made is "right wing attacks on the rise". They are not there for America, they are a leftist wing rag.
37   Onvacation   2020 Jun 27, 1:08pm  

jazz_music says
I don't know why I ever spent a second reading that trash.

Agreed! But that is what WaPo does.
38   Patrick   2020 Jun 27, 6:54pm  

Tenpoundbass says


She is right.
39   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Jun 27, 10:05pm  

jazz_music says
https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/how-and-why-fox-news-is-encouraging-right-wing-vigilante-violence-toward-protesters/

While the majority of the violence against peaceful protesters at Black Lives Matter demonstrations has been orchestrated by police, there's also been a troubling side trend of increasing right-wing vigilantism against protesters. In city after city — and even in small towns — Donald Trump's faithful are shooting protesters, hitting them with cars, or, in one case, attacking protesters with a chainsaw. Add to that multiple situations where self-appointed "patrols" of armed conservatives have shown up at demonstrations to threatened protesters, claiming they are responding to the threat of imaginary antifa violence. It's spiraled so far out of control that even people who have taken no part i...


Really stretching it there. CNN fear mongering is hard. People defending themselves from rioters are now called right wing. Yeah those pregnant mothers are so right wing trying to get away from 6 black gangsters pointing guns at them.

Left are just assholes.
40   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 27, 10:09pm  


peaceful protesters at Black Lives Matter


They weren't peaceful at all.

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