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Yes, it's a kind of censorship, but my hope is that it will make this site more useful to people of good will who really want to understand their fellow citizens and improve life.
No personal insults rule seems to be sufficient.
n this way people who want moderation can have it, and those that don't don't need to see it. It could just be a site-wide button turning it on and off per user.
It is already here to some extent - if someone does not enjoy AF's profanities or other user's 10000 anti-trump memes, they can just block the user.
Why can't people just ignore people who they don't agree with?
OK, I'm going to take off work this afternoon and just work on @richwicks idea. I don't think it should be as easy as just clicking a button to see deliberately inflammatory content, but it should be possible, so you all can have proof I'm just trying to keep things civil and not trying to block any ideas.
I'll reply to the other comments here in a bit. Need to escape the plague of gardeners next door making noise and dust and gasoline fumes.
This is why I don't put anybody on ignore.
False information
richwicks saysFalse information
that is a slippery slope.
The United States was justified in bombing Iraq back in the 1990's because the Iraqi soldiers were killing babies in Kuwait by stealing their incubators! They're subhuman scum. Here's proof:
www.youtube.com/embed/LmfVs3WaE9Y
I assume if you are going to create a specifically anti-trump or anti-obama thread for "humor" it will be untouched? I assume if you don't like that topic - you wouldn't look at it? If someone posts other content to that thread (say anti-trump with pro-trump c) then that would be moderated?
The key is whether the post or comment has good will or not.
No personal insults rule seems to be sufficient.
they can just block the user
The next level is to unify against our owners.
I suspect that if this new rule is implemented, the site will turn into a complete echo-chamber.
People just divided into sides and the vitriol kept growing.
eople who disagree with the MSM narrative of !RACISM! are definitely being censored and I was happy to make a place for those people to go, but that's only one level of resistance to being trapped and exploited by our owners.
The next level is to unify against our owners. We are deliberately being divided by the media so that we cannot possibly threaten the unethical business and lobbying practices of oligarchs.
Anyhow, you can only really learn when somebody points out you're wrong and then takes the time to explain how you're wrong.
Inflammatory
Personal insult
False information
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richwicks saysFalse information
that is a slippery slope.
Does this mean I cannot mock anyone for spelling and factual errors?
I agree. It's hard to admit you're wrong, kind of humiliating. But one should actually thank anyone who took the time to prove them wrong in a civil way.
Well it turns out that girl is lying. She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador. Her testimony is false and she was given acting lessons by Hill and Knowlton, a "PR" firm (read propaganda).
There's very little possibility that nobody in the intelligence agencies knew who she was, and unlikely that most of congress didn't quickly become aware of her true identity. That was propaganda not produced for congress, but for us. It's my favorite example of how the government lies to the population and it underscores just how long blatant dishonesty is used to trick the American population into supporting a war.
Part of the problem is the trollish behavior. The repetitiveness without context or content of meaningful value. "Well I'm X party, but cops are bad and racist."
The affect would be to promote reading that both sides like. Think about it. Although, I'm pretty sure right wingers outnumber lefties, and also probably more alt accounts of right wingers, so the downside is it could make the site more of a Trump Cult hangout.
what if every time someone posted a link to an article (or editorial ) they liked, in a "new post" it went to a list somewhere, and people could upvote or down vote the artcle (one vote per person), on that list. Maybe some other way members could get an article moved up, if they really thought it was good and important.
Trump Cult
How can you simultaneously have civility with freedom to offend ? I thought both would be incompatible or mutually exclusive.
Some view the freedom to offend as being uncivil if not racist or "pro-Fascist". It just seems like you will have an arbitrary label as what is civil and uncivil.
Everybody is on board for promoting a war - even "liberal" NY Times..
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So no more pictures of Trump as an insane clown or talk of his being raped by Putin. That does not address his policies specifically and helps nothing. It just divides us.
And no more phrases like "liberals". That immediately eliminates the possibility of a liberal wanting to have a polite discussion of his point of view here. Again, it just divides us.
We need unity, not more division. E pluribus unum.
I'm just going to flag posts and comments I find to be stirring up hate and division. Don't worry, you'll know what that means, and the author will be able to click the "edit" button to see just what it was that got the post or comment flagged. It will be clear and fair.
Yes, it's a kind of censorship, but my hope is that it will make this site more useful to people of good will who really want to understand their fellow citizens and improve life. While the MSM routinely censors "offensive" ideas like the Red Pill theory, or our innate differences by sex and race, I'm not going to do that. All ideas are still open for discussion in a civil manner. The tag-line "Freedom to Offend" was not being understood as I intended. It seemed to be generating posts that were deliberately and angrily offensive.
Sorry if it seems like the food-fight is over. Everyone is still very welcome to have their say, just treat others as you would wish to be treated, including other political parties and public figures, and you'll still be able to make any point you want.