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THE SHIT DIDN’T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT

By jazz_music follow jazz_music   2020 Jun 1, 11:11am 527 views   14 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


The nightly news, when talking about the effect of the pandemic on the populace in, say, Southeast Asian, African, South American, … countries, invariably refer to the tenuous hold on life of their working poor; they don’t really have a job. Each day they rise and go forth looking for work that pays enough that they and their family can continue to subsist. It is, in some countries, a long-standing problem.

Sound too familiar? Sometime in the late 80s (??) Americans began to see day labors line up at Home Depot and Lowe’s lots in numbers not seen since The Great Depression. Manufacturing Corporations began subbing out their work to sub-contractors, otherwise known as employees without benefits; Construction Contractors subbed out construction work to these employees without benefits; Engineering Firms subbed out engineering to these employees without benefits; Landscapers’ workers were now sub-contractors/independent contractors; … Here, in the SF Bay Area, time and again, we saw vans loads of undocumented Hispanics under a ‘Labor Contractor’ come in from the Central Valley to build condos; the white Contractor for the project didn’t have a single employee; none of the workers got a W-2. Recall watching, sometime in the 90s (??), a familiar, well dressed, rotund guest from Wall Street, on the PBS News Hour, forcefully proclaiming to the TV audience:

… American workers are going to have to learn to compete with the Chinese; Civil Service employees, factory employees, … are all going to have to work for less …

All this subcontracting, independent contractors, … was a scam, a scam meant to circumvent paying going wages and benefits, … to enhance profit margins; a scam that transferred more wealth to the top.

Meanwhile back at The Ranch, after the H1B Immigration Act of 1990, Microsoft could hire programmers from India for one-half the cost of a citizen programmer. Half of Bill Gates’ fortune was resultant these labor savings; the other half was made off those not US Citizens. Taking a cue, Banks, Bio-Techs, … some City and State Governments began subcontracting out their programming to H1Bs. Often, the subcontractors/labor contractors (often themselves immigrants) providing the programmers, held the programmers’ passports/visas for security.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, friends of Bush/Cheney made fortunes on clean up contracts they subbed out for next to nothing; the independent/subcontractor scam was now officially governmentally sanctioned.

By about 2000 we began to hear the term gig-workers applied to these employees without benefits. Uber appeared in 2007 to be followed by Lift. Both are scams based on paying less than prevailing wages, on not providing worker benefits, …

These days, the nightly news, when talking about the effect of the pandemic on the populace in America, shows footage of Food Banks in California with lines 2! miles long. Many of those waiting in these lines didn’t have a real job before; they were gig-workers; they can’t apply for Unemployment Benefits. It is estimated that 1.6 million American workers (1% of the workforce) are gig-workers; they don’t have a real job. That 1% is in addition to the 16 million American workers (10% of the workforce) that are independent contractors. Of the more than 40 million currently unemployed Americans, some 17 million are either gig-workers or subcontractors/independent contractors. All of these are scams meant to transfer more wealth to the top. All of these are scams with American Workers the victims; scams, in a race to the bottom.

https://angrybearblog.com/2020/05/it-didnt-happen-overnight.html#more-56908
2   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2020 Jun 1, 11:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
All this subcontracting, independent contractors, … was a scam, a scam meant to circumvent paying going wages and benefits, … to enhance profit margins; a scam that transferred more wealth to the top.

Or you could be intelligent and game the tax system like you think your overlords do. It's not hard. Get an FEIN number, register with your state and start writing off frivolous expenses. The IRS is not going to come after under $10k most the time. I've done it for years while still following federal tax law. Nothing illegal. You hate the game, yet give a pass to the game creators that you want more of.... government.

You basically want more of what causes you problems. We're not ass holes here, there's just a massive flaw in the point of view you have. Government is going to fix the problem of itself? That's literally what you ask for in your post. Government is the cause of pretty much everything you bring up here.
3   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 12:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Government is going to fix the problem of itself? That's literally what you ask for in your post.
I don't see any of that. Show me where this idea is written.

However, the answers are all obvious. We don't have any representatives.

Force the government to represent Americans. We still own the government officially. The time is now before Trump bankrupts us and turns the government over to the top corporations. These corporations are all tyrannies and are accountable to no one ever, except stock holders. Life WILL BE WORSE, like when Europeans fled Europe to start our country. There was the East India Corporation, they had their own global military forces.

Make the government fear the people.

Convict some bad guys, let the other bad guys see some prison time for their kind.
4   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 1, 12:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I agree with you on a lot of this @jazz_music

jazz_music says
Here, in the SF Bay Area, time and again, we saw vans loads of undocumented Hispanics under a ‘Labor Contractor’ come in from the Central Valley to build condos


Yes, obviously illegals are used to drive down wages for American citizens. That is why they are protected by "sanctuary laws".

jazz_music says
after the H1B Immigration Act of 1990, Microsoft could hire programmers from India for one-half the cost of a citizen programmer. Half of Bill Gates’ fortune was resultant these labor savings; the other half was made off those not US Citizens


Again, yes, obviously the entire goal of the H1B program is to drive down wages. It has no other purpose. It exist in order to directly harm US citizens.

jazz_music says
The time is now before Trump bankrupts us


That's where you take a wrong turn.

Trump was elected exactly because of the the harmful effects of globalization promoted by Democrats. Trump is the answer, not the problem. At least he's been pretty good so far at pointing out the harms of outsourcing to China and insourcing illegals. Not one Democrat will ever take those positions, because they are paid off with the profits gained by screwing over American citizens.

The right answer is to abandon the Democratic Party and form a new Labor Party which never takes donations or allows influence from any employer big or small.
5   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 12:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Trump was elected exactly because of the the harmful effects of globalization promoted by Democrats.
This may be true, but it is also just one more swindle for Trump to add to his curriculum vitae.

From my POV the GOP has been a far more dynamic greater source of the betrayal of Americans.

Add to the atrocities mentioned above, the labor force of mass incarcerations, automation, and outsourcing. All these downfalls are the results of policy.
6   NDrLoR   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 1, 12:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
the atrocities mentioned above
This happened a long time before the 80's or automation. The black thug culture is a product, ironically, of the Civil Rights era. In the late 60's, young blacks under the influence of their leaders H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael and Eldridge Cleaver along with the Black Panther party rejected assimilation into mainstream American society advocated by MLK for, well, the black thug culture of violence, hatred of The Man and capitalism, involvement in the drug culture and every other self-destructive impulse known to mankind. This was aided by the social engineering schemes of the Great Society that insisted no man could live in a home where a welfare check was being received. This resulted in generations born into bastardy without a strong male influence and social uselessness. The huge majority of these people rioting have never spent a gainful day of employment in their lives and don't intend to. Their's is the smash and grab mentality and puts them in harm's way of authority by their own devices. Young blacks before the 1960's were employed, even at lower ranking jobs than whites, but these murderous impulses never occurred to the majority of them.
7   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 1:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
the harmful effects of globalization promoted by Democrats
Shit, last month the wealth inequality INCREASED as a direct result of Trump’s administration some $480 billion.

While it’s true that NAFTA happened under Clinton, it was clear that the wealthy were going to have that no matter what.

Nothing has disadvantaged Americans like union-busting Reagan. His weaponization of the declassified Powell Memorandum, and him and Nixon with the “war on drugs” which was handy to eliminate ALL sorts of Constitutional freedoms.

War after war after war, defunding and liquidations to cronies which is the true effect of this “privatization” bullshit.

Those and the tax reductions were the super transfers of wealth and power away from Americans and into the hands of global tyranny.

Trump has not had the chance to do anywhere near the amount of privatization he plans to do, but he sure has weaponized the DOJ.
8   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Jun 1, 1:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You know, we really have the same feelings about the harms of globalization. I just see Trump actively doing things to counter it, where you don't seem to see those things.
9   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 2:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
you don't seem to see those things.
I really don’t, what I see is Trump making the greatest promises ever and posing for executive Order PR shots.

I see Trump doing the same as every other Trump always does and making stump speeches that mean nothing in the end, except that he needs to be re-elected to stay out of prison.

He’s using the virus right now as a way to get his cronies out of prison, the ones we just threw in there.
10   ignoreme   ignore (3)   2020 Jun 1, 2:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

jazz_music says
Trump making the greatest promises ever and posing for executive Order PR shots.


So if Trump would just fulfill his campaign promises you'd have no issue with him?

Great we agree on everything.
11   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 2:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NDrLoR says
H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael and Eldridge Cleaver along with the Black Panther party rejected assimilation into mainstream American society advocated by MLK for, well, the black thug culture of violence, hatred of The Man and capitalism, involvement in the drug culture and every other self-destructive impulse known to mankind.
This hysterical opinion is the product of years of mass media’s exploiting your comfortable cohort’s vulnerability to believing in boogeymen.

And that whole pitch relies on your having no real knowledge and experience of what it is like to be these people.

... but they are people just like you and me.
12   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 3:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NDrLoR says
thug culture of violence, hatred of The Man and capitalism, involvement in the drug culture and every other self-destructive impulse known to mankind.
Speaking of all that, what do you think of this?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/boOvQ19TX4Vs/

There’s no niggers, kikes, beaners, gooks, nips, redskins behind any of this fine shit.
13   jazz_music   ignore (13)   2020 Jun 1, 3:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ignoreme says
So if Trump would just fulfill his campaign promises you'd have no issue with him?

Great we agree on everything.
That’s not an accurate synopsis of what was said and you, buttercup, know it too.
14   richwicks   ignore (4)   2020 Jun 1, 5:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NDrLoR says
the atrocities mentioned above
This happened a long time before the 80's or automation. The black thug culture is a product, ironically, of the Civil Rights era. In the late 60's, young blacks under the influence of their leaders H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael and Eldridge Cleaver along with the Black Panther party rejected assimilation into mainstream American society advocated by MLK for, well, the black thug culture of violence, hatred of The Man and capitalism, involvement in the drug culture and every other self-destructive impulse known to mankind.


Something I'd like to point out is that the black community has been intentionally subverted a few times.

For example: when rap music first showed up in the 1980's, it was political and forward thinking. It wasn't violent, it wasn't glorifying drugs, it was progressive in that it was taking an honest look at issues the black community faced. Here, this is comedy, but it's spot on:



Rap music in the later 80's just glorified drugs, promiscuous sex, money, violence. It promoted the most base and damaging things for a young person to do.

Drugs were thrown into poor urban areas. People couldn't get welfare if a man lived in the house originally. There is systemic racism. The black community was intentionally hobbled and they were targeted to make them government dependents.

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