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So much for that second wave...


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2020 May 11, 4:25pm   4,713 views  62 comments

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It's been a couple weeks since Georgia started reopening, and all the lefties were freaking out.

Here's the latest from the Georgia Department of Public Health website.



I wonder if those blue states might turn red after the massive abuse of power they experienced.

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1   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 May 11, 4:44pm  

Not possible. Leftists are too brainwashed and too dumb to accept facts that disprove their religion.
2   joshuatrio   2020 May 11, 5:16pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Not possible. Leftists are too brainwashed and too dumb to accept facts that disprove their religion.


Yup. Silenced media.
3   mell   2020 May 11, 5:33pm  

You heard the leftoid chicom operatives today: It's not a competition anymore!
4   Booger   2020 May 11, 5:38pm  

Are people out and about more in metro Atlanta?
5   mell   2020 May 11, 5:45pm  

Breed (mayor) was flat out lying in the presser today claiming the curve is not going down when
it clearly is - 11 new cases yesterday and only 2% of tests positive. But just went for a run and a blonde SF womyn from my hood was ranting about how she gives a fuck about face masks and the media panic and their Nazi snitch enablers. I yelled at her "hey where's your face mask!" - took her a while to get the joke. Anecdotal but people are out and about everywhere, saw a crowded soccer field. Traffic's def up. The tide may be turning some even in leftoitopia! Open up now!
6   joshuatrio   2020 May 11, 5:49pm  

Booger says
Are people out and about more in metro Atlanta?


Yeah pretty much. Traffic hasn't fully picked up in the mornings yet, but just about everything is back open.

We actually ate at a restaurant the other day which was nice.
7   theoakman   2020 May 11, 6:13pm  

It could be that between summer and good practices, the virus won't transmit that effectively.
8   Y   2020 May 11, 9:51pm  

Chart is useless unless # tests given is superimposed...
9   Y   2020 May 11, 9:53pm  

Ya slow down testing ya slow down rate.
Ya focus testing in rural areas ya slow down rate
All data is manipulative producing desires results.
10   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 3:58am  

Y says
Ya slow down testing ya slow down rate.
Ya focus testing in rural areas ya slow down rate
All data is manipulative producing desires results.

If you're feeling fine and healthy though, there's no point in going to a facility to get tested. All you'd be doing is elevating the risk of getting it. Either way the death rate is for sure dropping. Here are larger sized images from the link I put in below.





ThreeBays says
I wonder if you can read what it says at the bottom of your graph?


The link was in the image, but here you go. All the info is there: https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report
11   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 4:11am  

Will Georgia and other places get a 2nd wave? Yes. But also likely not to be nearly as severe, hospitals won't be overwhelmed by the simple fact the virus killed who it was going to kill and there's less to kill. And no, time doesn't stop, so people will age into the killing zone. The hope is that they may have gotten it and built immunities and will be fine in the next round. And please don't send me the 1 in 1,000,000 chances of getting reinfected within the next year. That happens with the flu now, even in vaccinated people.

As places stabilize and some decline like Georgia, the media is now reporting on every lotto winner chance of death from this virus. "Oh he was a perfectly healthy young 7 year old and he just dropped dead." type shit. In IL there is talk of extending our lockdown into mid-June.... 90% of IL land mass is basically unaffected by this and in the vast majority of those areas with under 10 deaths in a county, it was most certainly elderly people.

Our governor has totally botch our response. 1,000%. It should have been a Chicago centric response. Shut down all public transit coming in/out and around the city for a month. Only legitimate essential workers, as that term is totally fluffy. Cops, firefighters, nurses, doctors and people to keep major infrastructure running (electric, gas, water and food). That would have stopped the spread outside of Chicago sparring suburban lives, but also lives within the city. The mayor of Chicago and Governor fucking this up amazingly.
12   joshuatrio   2020 May 12, 4:35am  

ThreeBays says

I wonder if you can read what it says at the bottom of your graph?


I wouldn't have included it in the image if it wasn't that obvious.
13   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 4:49am  

joshuatrio says
ThreeBays says

I wonder if you can read what it says at the bottom of your graph?


I wouldn't have included it in the image if it wasn't that obvious.

I think they're also using a 14 day window to be cautious. Odds are most results are back in 24-48 hours and then maybe another 24-48 hours to report cases and deaths to the health department. So 4-7 day delay. Either way, it was flat and actually starting to trend down previous to the 14 day window of potential outstanding reporting of cases/deaths.

Ultimately it's deaths that matter. Most those that die were very likely to have been tested when admitted, probably days or even weeks prior. So that 14 day window on deaths is very much closer to 2-3 days logically. Georgia is past the peak and that's really indisputable with this data, unless they're lying for some reason.
14   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 5:15am  

Just went down the rabbit hole of data for IL. Our site sucks, but the information is generally there.

- 94.6% of all deaths are 50 or older.
- 68.5% of all deaths are 70 and older.
- 17.8% of all tested people were positive for the virus.

All numbers done on my own from this source (which blows).
https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics

IL response has been catastrophically bad. Yes testing has false positives and also missed positives, but that should be equal on both sides. So damn near 20% of IL has gotten this virus.... Almost 70% (yes I'm spinning a bit by rounding up) are 70 or older. Death is bad, but I'm not certain the point in this lockdown. Grandma/pa should just stay home and maybe do drive by visits and have groceries delivered. Lock down nursing homes from visitors. Completely equip those facilities with the best PPE and sanitation protocols. And open the fuck back up.

Anyone have a counter argument as to why this doesn't make sense when you look at a state like Georgia?
15   joshuatrio   2020 May 12, 6:08am  

WookieMan says

IL response has been catastrophically bad. Yes testing has false positives and also missed positives, but that should be equal on both sides. So damn near 20% of IL has gotten this virus.... Almost 70% (yes I'm spinning a bit by rounding up) are 70 or older. Death is bad, but I'm not certain the point in this lockdown. Grandma/pa should just stay home and maybe do drive by visits and have groceries delivered. Lock down nursing homes from visitors. Completely equip those facilities with the best PPE and sanitation protocols. And open the fuck back up.


Yup. Same results in NY, where about 20% of those tested had antibodies for the virus. While COVID is highly contagious, the death rate is much lower than being reported.
16   clambo   2020 May 12, 6:39am  

I finally found a person I know who caught the Wuhan virus.

She’s in San Francisco, from Peru, came on a tourist visa, stayed for longer, (broke immigration laws) found a sucker to marry her, divorced.

So she said while sick she didn’t realize it at first (95%+ cases are mild).
Presently she says she has a belly ache and a headache.

I said that she might at least lose some weight from the nausea.
“I hope I don’t lose my life!”

This is the typical drama seeking type of thing females like to say.

She said that “this virus is real” which I knew, and that “people is ignorant”.
I mentioned that in Austria they wore masks from the beginning and they have no pandemic.
This slightly annoyed her.

She’s likely not happy with guys like Elon Musk who say let’s get back to work.

Hand wringing is second nature to some people.
17   komputodo   2020 May 12, 8:27am  

does this mean that we all aren't going to die a hideous death from coronavirus?
18   komputodo   2020 May 12, 8:29am  

clambo says
She said that “this virus is real”

Most viruses are real but not necessarily deadly.......lolol
19   rdm   2020 May 12, 11:28am  

Way too early to draw any conclusions. Hope for the best. I note fox news just extended their work from home order until June 15 while pushing the country to reopen...what a bunch of pussies.

“A Friday memo from Fox Corp chief operating officer John Nallen extended the company’s work from home directive through June 15. On that date, at the earliest, Fox Corp properties like Fox News will begin a gradual reopening of offices. The date could very well be delayed further.”
21   joshuatrio   2020 May 12, 12:43pm  

Patrick says
Sure looks like the epidemic is ending in England:



https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-death-data-in-england-update-11th-may/


Looks like every real model is following the same path.

Open the damn economy Patrick!
22   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 12:55pm  

rdm says
Way too early to draw any conclusions.

Not really though. This is a flash in the pan virus. It kills and it kills how it knows how to, and quickly. Something like 98% of society wouldn't have even noticed this virus outside of shut downs or a family members death 2 years from now. 7B people on this planet and there's under 300k worldwide deaths.... 0.004% of the world has died. Holy fuck we're doomed.

This is a joke at this point, people are purely pushing propaganda. There are various datasets that even point to shut down having minimal if any true effect outside of densely populated locations. Cities/municipalities under 500k could have stayed open and nothing would have been different. Somehow India and China with 1B+ people have less deaths. Makes one go hmmm?
23   marcus   2020 May 12, 1:10pm  

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I'm just glad that if and when the data says we can open up more and faster, we can also blame lefty for wanting to go slower,...you know becasue their damn "facts and reality" based ideology.

I wonder if there is a way we could have had more and better data sooner. Oh yeah, it's Obama's fault.
24   Onvacation   2020 May 12, 3:12pm  

marcus says
becasue their damn "facts and reality"

Yeah!
25   Onvacation   2020 May 12, 3:15pm  

It's starting to get hotter. Soon the narrative will quickly shift back to climate change doom. Corona will be revived just in time for the elections.
26   WookieMan   2020 May 12, 3:49pm  

Onvacation says
It's starting to get hotter. Soon the narrative will quickly shift back to climate change doom. Corona will be revived just in time for the elections.

CV-19 is good for climate change though. It kills people. Less shit to emit if that's your ideology.

marcus says
I'm just glad that if and when the data says we can open up more and faster, we can also blame lefty for wanting to go slower,...you know becasue their damn "facts and reality" based ideology.


What facts and data? It's a new virus. Just examine the data and facts in your own locale that are all new. Statistically this is a huge flop. Deaths could have been prevented by just shutting down old people. Instead the response was to shut down everyone, even though the elderly still went out and did their grocery shopping in probably the 2nd or 3rd worst place they could possible be.. It has failed miserably.

A lot easier to shut down 20-25% of the population that is mostly useless anyway. This was a massive fuck up by everyone. Mayors, governors, POTUS, congress, CDC, WHO, Republican, Democrat, etc. There's really no disputing that.

People should be shot in the face for the fucking response.
27   socal2   2020 May 12, 4:08pm  

rdm says
Way too early to draw any conclusions. Hope for the best. I note fox news just extended their work from home order until June 15 while pushing the country to reopen...what a bunch of pussies.


Maybe businesses in Manhattan in the middle of the nation's largest hotspot should have stricter lockdown rules than Georgia that doesn't have a fraction of the infected or dead?
28   Patrick   2020 May 12, 6:44pm  

WookieMan says
Deaths could have been prevented by just shutting down old people. Instead the response was to shut down everyone, even though the elderly still went out


Their real motive was not to save any lives.

Their motive was only to destroy the economy.

And everyone knows why.
29   AD   2020 May 12, 8:28pm  

I'm trying to learn more about this COVID 19 such as at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

So how long does the virus live in someone who does not show symptoms (ie., asymptomatic) and can be then transmitted to someone with a weakened immune system ?

I am trying to understand if the virus can die off during the summer such as be starved of not having any available human host.
30   Patrick   2020 May 12, 8:38pm  

All viruses are like sharks, they have to keep moving or die.

If you get the disease a little because you were infected with just a few viruses, your body fights it off and you presumably get immunity, as with every other virus.

If you get the disease a lot, then you die if you're elderly or have severe health issues, otherwise, you recover and you presumably get immunity, as with every other virus.

The only way a virus can keep going a long time is to infect a few people at a time, and to keep moving to new people who haven't been infected yet.

And that's exactly what we are doing with this lockdown, which keeps the virus infecting a few people at a time, so that it can go on forever.
31   EBGuy   2020 May 13, 1:39pm  

Patrick says

And that's exactly what we are doing with this lockdown, which keeps the virus infecting a few people at a time, so that it can go on forever.

An interesting counterpoint that Bret and Heather make is we don't want the Wuhan Enigma Virus "exploring design space on a naive human population". If we get another seasonal flu, it becomes a cost that all future generations MUST bear. Not saying they're right, but they certainly have an interesting take as evolutionary biologists.
See 9:03 in video.
www.youtube.com/embed/koKBnUEgXuM?t=542
32   Patrick   2020 May 13, 2:22pm  

All viruses "experiment" with new forms of infection all the time.
33   joshuatrio   2020 May 20, 8:40am  

OccasionalCortex says
HEYYOU says
I'm waiting 2-3 weeks from now to see increased COVID-19 attacks.


Keep waiting.


Here we are just over a week later. And the results are fantastic.

Still waiting on that second wave....

34   marcus   2020 May 20, 8:46am  

joshuatrio says
all the lefties


All ?

I guess the only thing better than bringing the economy back is simultaneously somehow making it a victory for your team.

I know the Trump Cultists around here think I'm a leftie. I'm been very strongly hoping that there is absolutely zero second wave in Geogia and Texas. It's not what I think is going to happen, but even if it's just a small bounce, that would be awesome.

joshuatrio says
Here's the latest from the Georgia Department of Public Health website.


How many weeks in to May do you reckon your graph goes ? (hint: the answer is clear)
35   Bd6r   2020 May 20, 8:48am  

ad says
I am trying to understand if the virus can die off during the summer such as be starved of not having any available human host.

I'd guess UV kills it, and the warmer temperature, the faster it is killed. So sunny, warm weather should bring infections down naturally, like with all cold viruses/flu's...
36   Bd6r   2020 May 20, 8:49am  

Y'all are forgetting that ORANGE MAN BAD NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES. CLOSES BORDER WITH CHINA - RACIST! DOES NOT CLOSE BORDER - WANTS WOMYN AND MINORITIES TO DIE!
37   RWSGFY   2020 May 20, 9:13am  

rd6B says
I'd guess UV kills it, and the warmer temperature, the faster it is killed. So sunny, warm weather should bring infections down naturally, like with all cold viruses/flu's...


Brazil.
38   georgeliberte   2020 May 20, 10:04am  

The left Democrats who sit around m at work seem convinced (self?) of four things;
1. The second wave of COVID will be much more horrendous,
2. It is Trumps fault and everyone knows this,
3. The economy is doomed and again. It is Trumps fault and everyone knows this,
4. As a consequence, Trump is toast and will be swept away in the resulting blue tsunami.
Personally, I find #1 and 2 highly unlikely, #3 in part possible in that there will be powerful ramifications of shutting down the entire world economy; but, I doubt It is Trumps fault and, no, everyone does not know this. #4 seems like wishful thinking given the Democratic presidential performance so far (and on point, four years before).
BTW SF believes similar. https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/letterstoeditor/article/Letters-to-the-Editor-Bewildered-by-Georgia-s-15216646.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result
39   Bd6r   2020 May 20, 10:14am  

covid_shmovid says
Brazil.

Texas/CA vs. New York.
40   RWSGFY   2020 May 20, 11:33am  

rd6B says
covid_shmovid says
Brazil.

Texas/CA vs. New York.


Right. But Brazil.

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