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Bringing Chip manufacturing back

By Hircus follow Hircus   2020 May 10, 4:50pm 457 views   8 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    

Looks like Trump is seriously talking with Intel and other companies about establishing chip and other electronics manufacturing & assembly plants in the USA. This is terrific news - we cannot risk Chyna implanting back doors into our electronics.


The Trump administration is in talks with semiconductor companies about building chip factories in the United States, representatives from two chipmakers said on Sunday.

Intel Corp is in discussions with the United States Department of Defense over improving domestic sources for microelectronics and related technology, Intel spokesman William Moss said in an emailed statement.

“Intel is well positioned to work with the U.S. government to operate a U.S.-owned commercial foundry and supply a broad range of secure microelectronics,” the statement added.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC), on the other hand, has been in talks with the U.S. Department of Commerce about building a U.S. factory but said it has not made a final decision yet.

“We are actively evaluating all the suitable locations, including in the U.S., but there is no concrete plan yet,” TSMC spokeswoman Nina Kao said in a statement.

Intel Chief Executive Bob Swan wrote a letter to the Department of Defense in late March in which he expressed the company’s willingness to build a foundry — a term used in the industry to reference a chip factory — in partnership with the Pentagon.

“This is more important than ever, given the uncertainty created by the current geopolitical environment,” Swan wrote in the letter dated March 30 and seen by Reuters on Sunday.

It comes amid increasing diplomatic tensions between the U.S. and China during the coronavirus outbreak, with both sides trading barbs over who is to blame for the spread of the disease after already being involved in trade tensions for almost two years.

“We currently think it is in the best interest of the United States and of Intel to explore how Intel could operate a commercial U.S. foundry to supply a broad range of microelectronics,” the letter from the Intel CEO added.

The Trump administration’s discussions with chipmakers were reported earlier by the Wall Street Journal, with the report adding that TSMC also has been talking with Apple Inc, one of its largest customers, about building a chip factory in the United States.

TSMC declined to comment on the talks with the iPhone maker.

The Journal had also reported that U.S. officials are looking at helping South Korea’s Samsung Electronics Co , which has a chip factory in Austin, Texas, to expand its contract-manufacturing operations in the United States.

The U.S. Commerce Department, Samsung and Apple did not respond to requests for comment on Sunday.

“We’re very serious about this,” Intel VP Greg Slater told WSJ.
1   RC2006   ignore (2)   2020 May 10, 4:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

This is good news, we should be making all electronic components.
2   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 May 10, 5:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We'll be making semiconductors, resistors, transducers, transistors, and the stuff that consumes them.

Hopefully we'll see the return of high quality, high value electronics that does one thing and does it well, and does it for a long time.
Sure we can put everything in to a smart phone. By now, the iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy should have more going for it, than updated fonts and the latest high res screen.
If you've noticed the last generations of the Smart phone for the last 5 years have really back pedaled on features, functions and capabilities. The phones should all be sporting 24/192 DAC, have 100's of gig of space, they should have SD card access, and serviceable batteries, they should be made to last longer than 2 years. They are not, we keep throwing money away. When you look at all of the high dollar Computers, Laptops and Handheld units you've consumed over the years. If that same money were put in a HiFi rack system, like electronics before the CD. Everyone would still have a perfectly working Audio system. With a Reel to Reel, Dual Cassette player, a Technics turntable, 1200 watt amp, a Kenwood receiver, and an array of High quality wide range speaker systems. It would all be working just as good as the day you started collecting and bought your first component piece in 1995. That lack of quality dependability destroyed the music industry. People bought CD's and less than a few months later they were drink coasters.
Vinyl and Tape at least stood up to time in a collection as well. Look at all of the digital content we've all had over the years. Who here still is harboring their original iPod library from 2006?
3   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 May 10, 8:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We can do this!
5   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2020 May 11, 8:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Woohoo! I remember some older Engineer pals whinging about the downfall of fab in silicon valley mid-90s. Makes me want to call some of them up to yack about the good ol' days.
6   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2020 May 11, 8:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
Hopefully we'll see the return of high quality, high value electronics

And I'll get to upgrade my stereo receiver!
7   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2020 May 11, 8:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
Samsung Galaxy should have more going for it,

I made a post about Samsung maybe 6 months ago and how they hacked my phone and smart home components at my Maui condo. Literally deleted SMS messages and locked my paying guests out of my condo. They did it because I threatened to leave a bad review about their shit handling of the broken stylus on their galaxy note 9.

So, fuck the Korean companies too!

Meanwhile, the Samsung TV I'd purchased for the place 15 months ago has a line going down the center of the screen. I had a 3 year warranty so no big deal right? Well, I've spent about 10 hours on the phone, jumped through all of their fucking hoops and so far no refund check.

Lots of time chatting about how they aren't going to pick up the old TV because policy is they only do that for mainland. I keep getting calls from godamn trucking companies that want to come by in San Diego.

Still no fucking check. It's been 6 weeks of this shit.

Fortunately I'm working from home so sitting on hold for 2.5hrs is no big deal.
8   Blue   ignore (0)   2020 May 11, 9:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
We can do this!

Of course. It may take few years to setup and costs few 10 of b$. Since the complexity of latest chips are very high and finding security issues are very difficult with current methods. This initiative gives a trusted option to sensitive chip vendors.

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