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2020 May 3, 4:58am   992 views  30 comments

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1   zzyzzx   2020 May 3, 8:37am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
US endures worst one-day death toll yet as states reopen

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495826-us-endures-worst-one-day-death-toll-yet-as-states-reopen

The U.S. saw its largest one-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic to date on Thursday as several states began to reopen parts of their economies.

According to data from the World Health Organization (WHO), 2,909 people in the U.S. died on Thursday, shattering the previous record of 2,471 deaths reported on April 23, CNBC reported.


Fake news. Article does nothing to correlate headline with data in article.
4   mell   2020 May 3, 9:07am  

Sure, there's a potential wave each and every year from now on! It's called flu season and Sars cov 2 may now be a part of it.
5   Ceffer   2020 May 3, 10:40am  

Anything from WHO is garbage in and garbage out. Corrupt third world/Gates-ian plexus of evil disinformation propaganda outlet.
6   Patrick   2020 May 3, 11:40am  

zzyzzx says
Fake news. Article does nothing to correlate headline with data in article.


It sure does look like fake news. Graph from worldometers.info including yesterday, May 2nd:

7   Booger   2020 May 3, 11:56am  

HEYYOU says
Let's get to the facts. 66,500 Americans have died


So far that makes it a normal flu season. Not really even newsworthy.
8   Booger   2020 May 3, 11:57am  

HEYYOU says
Let's get to the facts. 66,500 Americans have died


So that makes it a normal flu season so far. Not even newsworthy.
9   Ceffer   2020 May 3, 11:58am  

Can we now go back to the days when things that kill droves of people nobody pays any attention to?
10   Ceffer   2020 May 3, 12:40pm  

Panic Pandemic is becoming a dead horse. However, LibbyFucks never tire of fake news and beating dead horses.
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 12:53pm  

Who cares what a fat media ho from "realcurves" at HuffoPo says.

90% of those deaths are over 65 with multiple chronic conditions.

In reality, only a few thousand healthy people under 60 died - the very people most likely to be employed/in school.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 1:05pm  

That took a few minutes - interrupted by me making a sandwich for my kid.

I've seen more patience from Degenerate Gamblers waiting by the ATM Machine in Wigwam Hall at 11:58PM.





14   mell   2020 May 3, 4:24pm  

jazz_music says
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
US endures worst one-day death toll yet as states reopen


That is sad but irrelevant for future predictions as deaths peak in a lagging manner, Europe has shown that. We will most likely never see that amount of deaths again, i.e. over 2k, soon they will fall below 1k. Also going from zero to a million cases in 3 months is a result of the test lag, not a sudden exponential increase in infections - so these womyn tweeters are simply ignorant (even if well meaning). The majority of the cases were contracted before or just around when testing started. It's also likely evidence that the real exposure in the population is as high as 25%. But again, that has no bearing on models for future infections/hospitalizations and economic reopening plans. Sweden - and to a lesser extent Germany - have proven this.
15   rdm   2020 May 3, 4:48pm  

mell says
We will most likely never see that amount of deaths again,


Hope you are right but we really don't know. This is all one big experiment as we begin to reopen states that probably shouldn't reopen (Georgia) and keep states in lock down that should begin to reopen (California, at least certain parts). My theory is we will see a plateau of deaths that will continue at a fairly high rate for months as prisons, nursing homes meat plants etc and certain states continue to burn hot while other states cool down. Overall it an uncoordinated mess. Hopeing the summer damps it down.
16   marcus   2020 May 3, 5:07pm  

Tenpoundbass says


If I were in your shoes it would make me kind of nervous having the belief that reality, truth and facts are no longer knowable, and that the best we can do is to make these whatever we want them to be.
17   astronut97   2020 May 3, 5:23pm  

Booger says
HEYYOU says
Let's get to the facts. 66,500 Americans have died


So that makes it a normal flu season so far. Not even newsworthy.

A normal flu season is counted over about 8 months with no lockdown and is closer to 20,000 deaths. An extreme flu season exceeds 60,000. This Covid-19 death count of 66,000 and still counting occurred in less than 3 months so far. Let's see what the death count is in another five months when the next wave hits.
18   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 5:53pm  

marcus says
If I were in your shoes it would make me kind of nervous having the belief that reality, truth and facts are no longer knowable, and that the best we can do is to make these whatever we want them to be.


Being able to shop CVS, Kroeger's, and order Pizza delivered is a far cry from a total quarantine. It's so porous it's almost worthless, where adults and kids are involved.

Point is the shutdown probably had limited influence.
19   rdm   2020 May 3, 6:14pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Point is the shutdown probably had limited influence.


So why have things cooled down in NY?
20   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 6:31pm  

The very sick got killed off or received high levels of treatment due to fantastic Federal Assistance.

Keep in mind Mayor DeBlasio was urging New Yorkers to use use the subway in March:



That's from the NY Times.

This was a city (overwhelmingly Dem Led) that encouraged people to do the opposite of wear masks, avoid public places, etc. until late March. Fortunately, the Military, CDC, and Trump Admin rushed in when the City finally admitted to having a huge rise in cases very late in the game.

The cooling off in NYC would have happened regardless. Although there are reports that doctors are being pressured to list COVID if any symptoms of the patient matched COVID, even if untested or earlier tests were negative, and that NYS and NYC were discharging COVID patients to Nursing Homes.
21   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 6:36pm  

I'd also remind some readers that NYC/NYS failed to trace those who interacted with the first confirmed carrier in NY, an Iranian woman who came to NYC via Qatar.

They promised to do so on National TV but the Governor, Mayor's Office, NYS Health and NYC Health each thought the other office was doing it and they never ran down the people she came in contact with, though she had already provided names of people she came close to to authorities.

That might have saved dozens, maybe hundreds, of lives alone.

Typical bureaucratic ineptitude : I'll be there to share the glory, but it's the other departments thing to do the work.
22   mell   2020 May 3, 6:38pm  

rdm says
mell says
We will most likely never see that amount of deaths again,


Hope you are right but we really don't know. This is all one big experiment as we begin to reopen states that probably shouldn't reopen (Georgia) and keep states in lock down that should begin to reopen (California, at least certain parts). My theory is we will see a plateau of deaths that will continue at a fairly high rate for months as prisons, nursing homes meat plants etc and certain states continue to burn hot while other states cool down. Overall it an uncoordinated mess. Hopeing the summer damps it down.


Pretty confident we won't see 2k again - we came in at 1145 yesterday/today (0 GMT is cutoff) and only 27k new infections.

rdm says
NoCoupForYou says
Point is the shutdown probably had limited influence.


So why have things cooled down in NY?


Likely (data suggests) the curve looks similar everywhere, regardless of the extent of lockdown - however I do agree it makes a bigger difference in high-density areas such as NYC, simply shutting down the subway reduces tons of transmission.

In the long run only herd immunity, drugs and proper hospital management matter, and hospitals are pretty much empty in most states, so there's no reason not to open up at this point. It's not different than a highly contagious flu without vaccine options. I'd say we flatten out death-wise around the 100k mark, +-20%. Of course if you keep counting it will keep climbing, but I'm talking seasonal deaths like they are counted for the flu. I also think a lot of flu deaths will be attributed to Covid-19 falsely as this is the main focus now. Nobody tests for flu right now (they were earlier in the season), instead they will land in the presumed CV-19 pile (they don't need a positive test to count as CV-19 death).

Also the longer you keep people locked up at home, the weaker their immune system gets against all microbes (and other environmental influences) until they go out and mingle again.
23   rdm   2020 May 3, 6:40pm  

NoCoupForYou says
received high levels of treatment due to fantastic Federal Assistance.


So it was Trump that saved NY. I might have expected that answer.

Not sure why the dis of de Blasio if shut down and social distancing didn't/doesnt matter much he would have been right. I don't think he was but you just said "Point is the shutdown probably had limited influence" ???
24   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 3, 6:48pm  

rdm says


So it was Trump that saved NY. I might have expected that answer.

Not sure why the dis of de Blasio if shut down and social distancing didn't/doesnt matter much he would have been right. I don't think he was but you just said "Point is the shutdown probably had limited influence" ???


By the time NYC Shutdown, the disease was probably already spreading like wildfire from China, Iran, and other turd world hotspots. It spent February and half of March denying anything.

Remember this thing is like two weeks from start of being contagious to full on symptoms, in those that get symptoms - many have mild or no symptoms at all, yet are contagious.

When NYC finally realized they had lots of cases, they were caught flatfooted, and immediately jumped to BLAME ORANGEMANBAD! Claiming they were short on everything, and complaining they didn't have everything ---- before they asked for it, indeed when they were DISMISSiVE of calls to prep further and stockpile.

So while Chinatown festivities and subway riding is promoted, while masks demonized as Xenophobic sentiment, the disease was spreading. PATH and NYC/NYS also imposed no inspections of travellers arriving from hotspots.

Lockdowns are not all or nothing propositions. They can include: Mandating non-essential office workers be allowed to work remotely, offering to comp companies allowing employees to take sick time if they suspect they're ill, shutting down visitors to nursing homes/assisted living, asking people not to gather and shutting down events over 50 people, and making some hospitals "Outbreak only".

Several All Wise State and City Governments mostly went from "Shuttup, Xenophobe - take off your mask and watch the dancing dragon" to "Shut it ALL Down, but OrangeManBad is to Blame!" - a whiplash 180 that we've all seen before, in a matter of hours.
25   Onvacation   2020 May 3, 9:24pm  

rdm says
So why have things cooled down in NY?

They ran out of people to kill.
26   Expat01   2020 May 4, 6:07am  

It's always amusing to see opinions and comments from people who are avowedly and willfully ignorant, who disdain education and science and who believe that everything evil in the world comes from being liberal.
i wonder how a certain Jew would feel about that. My guess is that any right-wing American would nail him right back on the cross for being a libtard commie long-haired faggot.
MAGA
27   Onvacation   2020 May 4, 7:19am  

Expat01 says
It's always amusing to see opinions and comments from people who are avowedly and willfully ignorant, who disdain education and science

Alarmists annoy me too.
28   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 May 4, 7:28am  

Expat01 says
It's always amusing to see opinions and comments from people who are avowedly and willfully ignorant, who disdain education and science and who believe that everything evil in the world comes from being liberal.
i wonder how a certain Jew would feel about that. My guess is that any right-wing American would nail him right back on the cross for being a libtard commie long-haired faggot.
MAGA


It's also amazing when people who post tweets and commentary - even from leftist organs like the NYT - about how certain politicians were characterizing the situation before it exploded, handwave it away with counterfactual-free contempt.

It's even more jawdropping when people who have nothing but contempt for the Son of God try to characterize his followers.

Finally, the assertions that the easily ascertainable spread of what has every sign of a typical novel virus keeping in line with similar outbreaks is held up as being the New Black Plague, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Yet they profess to be devotees of science.
29   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 May 4, 7:51am  

it's even more jawdropping when people who have nothing but contempt for the Son of God try to characterize his followers.


"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
30   NDrLoR   2020 May 4, 9:00am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
From Saul-Patron Saint of Losers-Alinsky who was a follower and admirer of Lucifer.

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