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Who should be locked down?
I'm convinced of another motive at this point.
I'm convinced of another motive at this point. 100%. Just don't know what it is.China hates Trump. Dems hate Trump. MSM hates Trump. Industries that pump up profits by outsourcing to China don't like Trump. Folks on China's payroll don't like Trump. Not suggesting a conspiracy, just groups using the opportunity to discredit and get rid of him.
... the speed and conviction with which progressive professionals have called for harsh restrictions, and their vehemence in trying to shut up skeptics and dissenters, speaks louder than the world of Bush’s second inaugural. Power, security, and conformity — moral reassurance through the obliteration of dissent — is what they desire, and we see it as clearly now as we did in the weeks after 9/11.
Non-elite Americans are not expected to exercise any liberty here: to question authority or offer their own thoughts (thought crimes as far as Facebook is concerned); to assemble to petition their masters; to freely exercise their religion. Though the elite may say such rights are universal, for the sake of slapping a moral veneer on war, when these rights are put to the test under stressful conditions at home, Americans are supposed to surrender them without debate. If you really believe that Americans are or ought to be so obedient, you can’t also believe that freedom is a universal human desire. Not unless ‘freedom’ only means ‘doing exactly what people like me want you to do.’
For now, America is still enough of a federal republic that voters in different regions, where different classes and cultures predominate, still get a decisive say on the presidential election. At stake in the Trump vs. Biden contest is the question of whether the fearful, censorious, illiberal elite will consolidate power by claiming the White House, or whether it will be impeded and rebuked by the re-election of Donald Trump. COVID-19 has not tipped the election decisively toward Biden, as anti-Trump pundits had predicted. What it has done is make all the more stark the difference between the class that gave us globalism and that would now squelch any dissent from the lockdown, and the rest of the country that puts jobs, faith, and freedom above the demands of the elite consensus.
This is fcked up, Newsom fcked up. The risk of transmission outside is extremely low as compared to inside so this makes zero sense.
I got word that Newsome has notified California police departments to close ALL beaches May 1st. That’s tomorrow, folks, the same day as a bunch of planned lockdown protests are scheduled for noon at various beaches across the state.
First Ammendment freedom of assembly?
Out the fucking window according to Newsome.
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/reopen-protests-california/
willywonka saysThe goal is illogical. You want folks who won't die to have immunity. You want folks who are at high risk of dying to be locked down. You are killing the future elderly by preventing them from developing immunity to the virus when they have an effective immune system to do so.Who should be locked down?
If the goal is herd immunity, then the vulnerable should be locked down.
But this hasn't been the goal - the goal is suppression and containment.
We don't know yet if long term immunity can be developed for covid-19. We don't have immunity for all the common cold coronaviruses and yearly influenza.
If the goal is herd immunity, then the vulnerable should be locked down.
But this hasn't been the goal - the goal is suppression and containment.
Not true, look at South Korea. They suppressed it to nearly 0 and that's in dense cities.
You can see that it is mostly older folks with comorbidities dying.
Using the recent NYC serum antibody data as a likely understated basis for determining total people infected, and the age demographic NYC data, I calculated the fatality rate for age group. I used total deaths, although by a very large precent, most deaths were in folks with comorbidities. Suprisingly, even in the 75 and up age group, fatalities without a comorbidity were very, very low.
I had to use averaging for the 18-44 age group, as the serum antibody data further breaks up these age categories more finely than does the fatality data, but here you go:
Fatality rates for those with and without comorbidities
18-44 - 0.07%
45-64 - 0.82%
65-74 - 3.4%
75+ - 7.7%
Fatality rates for those without known comorbidities (which also includes prediabetic, and folks on their way to having comorbidities)
18-44 - 0.006%
45-64 - 0.03%
65-74 - 0.05%
75+ - 0.06%
Who should be locked down?
Fauci is asshole!