« prev   random   next »

1
0

Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported

By ThreeBays follow ThreeBays   2020 Apr 27, 3:46pm 668 views   20 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c

Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FT.
2   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 27, 4:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Looks like a typical novel disease: The weakest and most vulnerable die in the first wave, then a collapse. Great!

Interesting how Stockholm (and probably Jakarta where any calls for self-quarantine are likely firmly ignored) have the lowest increases despite not locking down.
3   ThreeBays   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 27, 4:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
Looks like a typical novel disease: The weakest and most vulnerable die in the first wave, then a collapse. Great!

Interesting how Stockholm (and probably Jakarta where any calls for self-quarantine are likely firmly ignored) have the lowest increases despite not locking down.


Nah, the collapses are due to lock-downs. No collapse in Stockholm yet right?

The actual numbers can be lower for any number of reasons. Stockholm is way less dense than NYC, Madrid, etc. Old age make-up of Jakarta is way lower.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2020 Apr 27, 4:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
Nah, the collapses are due to lock-downs. No collapse in Stockholm yet right?


Or, it's herd immunity.
5   ThreeBays   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 27, 5:39pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
Or, it's herd immunity.


Herd of Trump sheeple immunity.
6   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 27, 5:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
NoCoupForYou says
Or, it's herd immunity.


Herd of Trump sheeple immunity.


There's a winning comment right there..../
7   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 27, 5:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says


Yawn. Because it primarily affects the old and infirm, you know people with shorter life expectancy, it just means that over the next 2-3 years it will even out as there are a few less deaths per year after the virus has provided the overwhelming majority of people who will become infected and survive the virus with beautiful immunity. It is called natural selection, you may have herd of it? (pun intended)
8   Misc   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 28, 8:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I think that the number of deaths world-wide is even higher than the 60% (122k) deaths reported in the headline. China's numbers are just made up, Iran is guilty of serious under reporting, Saudi' s death rate based on the number of cases is suspicious (unless the Covid patients are beheaded before succumbing to the disease), based on the figures maybe Singapore treats those with symptoms right away with "Trump pills", nobody believes the figures Pakistan delivers, and Africa doesn't even know what we're talking about.

However, the overall death rate will come in at about that of a typical flu strain. If it is as the Doomers say at about 1%, we will definitely hear about them having massive, mass graves in Africa for the what 12 million deaths across the continent?
9   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2020 Apr 28, 8:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
All fake.

No one's been sick.

In fact, no one's died.

If they did, they died of Michelle Obama disemboweling them with her immense prehensile penis.

But MSM never reports on it.


I’d say it’s about as fake as your belief that sarcasm protects you from making bad arguments.
10   marcus   ignore (11)   2020 Apr 28, 8:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
sarcasm protects you from making bad arguments


Is that what he's doing ?

Or is it making fun of people that deserve to be made fun of.
11   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 28, 9:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says


@ThreeBays do you have the url for that graph? Can't find it on the ft.com site.
12   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 28, 9:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Old geezers dying of pneumonia is NOT a tragedy! It’s natural causes and the road ahead for all of us, should we survive that long.
If you’re old and vulnerable, the responsibility for your health rests with YOU! Change your own habits to protect yourself. Don’t demand that everyone else change to suit your needs, give up their livelihoods, live in miserable isolation, and homeschool their children to lower your risk of catching your inevitable and timely death!
13   Misc   ignore (0)   2020 Apr 28, 9:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shaman says
Old geezers dying of pneumonia is NOT a tragedy! It’s natural causes and the road ahead for all of us, should we survive that long.
If you’re old and vulnerable, the responsibility for your health rests with YOU! Change your own habits to protect yourself. Don’t demand that everyone else change to suit your needs, give up their livelihoods, live in miserable isolation, and homeschool their children to lower your risk of catching your inevitable and timely death!


Until governor Cuomo moves Covid-19 patients into your nursing home.
14   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 28, 9:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It’s not like we’re recommending the Attestupa for the elderly!

15   socal2   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 28, 9:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FT.


Looks like they are not counting it right.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/04/28/they-arent-excess-deaths-fact-filled-thread-takes-dashboard-covid-death-data-reporting-aka-panic-porn-apart/
16   Shaman   ignore (2)   2020 Apr 28, 9:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Misc says
Until governor Cuomo moves Covid-19 patients into your nursing home.


If I’m in a nursing home with months left to live in ignominy and squalor, I’d prefer a bullet but would settle for a fast acting virus. No ventilator please.
17   ThreeBays   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 28, 9:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
ThreeBays says


@ThreeBays do you have the url for that graph? Can't find it on the ft.com site.


It's from the OP link. Also, follow https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch for updates.
18   ThreeBays   ignore (4)   2020 Apr 28, 10:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

PeopleUnited says
Yawn. Because it primarily affects the old and infirm, you know people with shorter life expectancy, it just means that over the next 2-3 years it will even out as there are a few less deaths per year after the virus has provided the overwhelming majority of people who will become infected and survive the virus with beautiful immunity. It is called natural selection, you may have herd of it? (pun intended)


PeopleUnited's obituary: "One less we have to bury later".
19   mell   ignore (6)   2020 Apr 28, 10:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

ThreeBays says
PeopleUnited says
Yawn. Because it primarily affects the old and infirm, you know people with shorter life expectancy, it just means that over the next 2-3 years it will even out as there are a few less deaths per year after the virus has provided the overwhelming majority of people who will become infected and survive the virus with beautiful immunity. It is called natural selection, you may have herd of it? (pun intended)


PeopleUnited's obituary: "One less we have to bury later".


It doesn't mean people are not aware and uneasy about a new very viral cold/flu. It means that they are selfless enough to not bring a (mostly younger) majority to the brink of economic destruction (leading to deaths, violence, drug use and suicides) to save a (mostly older) minority dying from natural causes.
20   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2020 Apr 28, 7:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It will be interesting to see what "excess deaths" ultimately looks like for the year. Bear in mind around 2.8+million people die per year in the US. Over half the males entering a nursing home only make it 3 months.
BTW, any of our local interlocutors want to comment on "It's Always Sunny in Guayaquil, Ecuador"?

about   best comments   contact   one year ago   suggestions