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Let's hope others follow his example.

Random comments:

Azam34 minutes ago
"I received a letter in advance that the rent is due on April 1st. No forgiveness or reduced rent plan is in place. I explained to the management that I was furloughed from work until May 30th but they didn't care. I've been living in this place for the past 10 years and never missed or was late to pay rent ever. Arbor view apartments, Anaheim CA 92804. Only ask God for help not people."

American Avenger31 minutes ago
"The manager where I live said she was going to fine me if I didn't pay on time after I told her I was going to be a couple of weeks late. I then surprised her by telling her she can't do that because our governor issued an Executive Order against that for this month. She got a little angry at that point and looked at me as if I wasn't suppose to be informed to that fact. Then she said, well it will be up to the owner. I said, No, it's the law!

These are new owners that took over a year ago. We all use to get along great with the old owner, who was also onsite manager. He was here all day every day attending to his property and repairing issues that arose. But these new owner/manager(India types), don't want to repair anything. They just want to collect their money and that's it." ...whose name I'm sure is Patel.

It's time for landlords and slumlords to chip in. I think though they'll shoot themselves in the foot if they play hardball as renters who can't afford will stop paying anyways and good luck evicting during the CV pandemic AND finding a new renter. Should be good for house prices and rents to come down significantly, at least around 25% IMO.

If a landlord isn’t bright enough to contact tenants, offer to take a partial haircut, offer to defer some, and the tenant pays some(maybe half or more). Then they deserve their final fate which won’t be pretty, at least in California.

Everyone will have some money. The $1200 check, and UE plus $600. Also severance, savings, etc. and it looks like shutdown will be over in 3 months or less. Being reasonable would save everyone in the long run.

But hey imbecile landlords, be short sighted. I can see tenants just refusing to pay rent at all, and lol at a landlord trying to evict 4 months from now(there’s a a moratorium on evictions in CA) and going to court for eviction or civil court for back rent...and trying to respond to the judge asking what they did to mitigate circumstances in these unprecedented times. Yeah good luck with that one.

Just read the story. FWIW I would pay my rent anyway. My income won’t be impacted and if the guy is going that far out of his way to help people, I should do my honest part also.

When compassion outweighs profits, the Founding Fathers weep!

mell says

It's time for landlords and slumlords to chip in. I think though they'll shoot themselves in the foot if they play hardball as renters who can't afford will stop paying anyways and good luck evicting during the CV pandemic AND finding a new renter. Should be good for house prices and rents to come down significantly, at least around 25% IMO.

And State and City and Federal Officials!

If all or the lion's share of the bars, restaurants, schools, etc. are closed, furloughs or steep paycuts down to $2000/month. No need to keep the Health and Safety Board fully employed at 100% wages when the Amusement Park and Bars are shut down.

Why should the assistant director of Diversity at Community College continue to draw $5000/month when the School is closed until next September? Or the Dean of Transfer Students or whatever?

In a way, they are landlords of the Public Till, continuing to draw salary rents from an increasingly broke majority private taxpayer.

NoCoupForYou says

mell says

It's time for landlords and slumlords to chip in. I think though they'll shoot themselves in the foot if they play hardball as renters who can't afford will stop paying anyways and good luck evicting during the CV pandemic AND finding a new renter. Should be good for house prices and rents to come down significantly, at least around 25% IMO.

And State and City and Federal Officials!

If all or the lion's share of the bars, restaurants, schools, etc. are closed, furloughs or steep paycuts down to $2000/month. No need to keep the Health and Safety Board fully employed at 100% wages when the Amusement Park and Bars are shut down.

Why should the assistant director of Diversity at Community College continue to draw $5000/month when the School is closed until next September? Or the Dean of Transfer Students or whatever?

In a way, they are landlords of the Public Till, co...

Right but you know that in crisis events like these the public sector always does better than the private sector. Many teachers don't get paid much but they have the upper hand in situations like these at least. Of course the excess salaries of management in public positions, govt, education etc. will be kept paid although they shouldn't.

mell says

Right but you know that in crisis events like these the public sector always does better than the private sector. Many teachers don't get paid much but they have the upper hand in situations like these at least. Of course the excess salaries of management in public positions, govt, education etc. will be kept paid although they shouldn't.

Therein is the rub.

The only group of people I'm sure getting laid off are the Contract Employees, the English 101 or Remedial Algebra Teachers/Profs who deal with the lowest ranked, highest problem Students. Probably the Sodexho or whatever Cafeteria or Janitorial contract workers, too. But the Dean of Student Activities is getting full pay even though it was already announced the campus will be closed, without any student activities whatsoever, until after Labor Day

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

ASSHOLE!

Asshoe!

OccasionalCortex says

mell says

It's time for landlords and slumlords to chip in.

No it isn't. There is no moral imperative whatsoever to force property owners to 'chip in'.

Nobody was calling for a regulation to force landlords to accept free-loading renters - of course it's a free country. Although many counties have enacted anti-eviction laws in terms of Covid-19. The fact that the whole housing industry got bailed out in 2008 on the taxpayer dime and that you can offset mortgage (interest) payments but not rent seems landlords may want to chip in, as the housing industry may be the last domino to fall from the CV-19 lockdown fallout and they may need another bailout. Either way they are free to do whatever they want, but what the guy in the OP did was smart as he'd have a hard time finding new renters for months, esp. within a CV epicenter.

OccasionalCortex says

Since when does that factor in the whether a lawsuit proceeds or not? Doesn't. So no judge can throw out a suit for that.

Juries might be another matter.

But what all this really does is make California even MORE hostile to landlords. That will equate to less rental unit supply. Duh!

I don’t think you understand how California courts work. They already lean in the tenants favor. I assure you that even without changes in the law, judges will be extra adverse to issuing eviction orders.

And if this wasn’t the case, the law would immediately change. Don’t forget who the idiot politicians in CA are

As a uniter and not a divider, I propose the following mutual cooperation between landlords and tenants:

Landlords go ahead an cancel rent. Affected Tenants then do the Landlord a small favor and move out.

CovfefeButDeadly says

I don’t think you understand how California courts work. They already lean in the tenants favor.

It's the opposite in Texas. I think maybe both states might be extremes as well? At any rate, my 3 renters all paid. The one who is usually early, but who I thought might be most likely to rent strike drug it out to the 3rd which is the last day before racking up fines.

There is an eviction moratorium in TX until the 20th but you can start filing and get a judgement before that date. Then send the constable out on the 20th to kick they ass out. If they lose their job use their fucking credit card like I did so many times years ago. One thing I didn't do was rent a fucking large house! I spent several years living in a dog house like studio then moved up slowly (1-year in 2bdrm apartment now) from there as I could pay rent AND save. They can go live in a cheap apartment fuck them if they don't pay.

They can go live in a cheap apartment fuck them if they don't pay.

I used to rent out SFL of the 3bed, 2.5 bath, 2car garage variety in nice neighborhoods. I had the same attitude as you - if you cannot afford my house, move out to something cheaper. I purposely avoided buying low end houses to rent out.