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Why were we so ill prepared?


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2020 Mar 22, 7:37am   2,433 views  26 comments

by GreaterNYCDude   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

I realize certain things we cannot control... but it amazes me that we have so few hospital beds per person in this country, particularly in major metro areas.

Also why were we not ramping up production of key supplies like facemasks, gloves, sanitizer, etc. in advance? This hit China about 3 weeks ahead of us.

Or better yet why not have a strategic reserve stashed away somewhere. Its not like the supplies go bad.

Anyhow I'm just venting. If these lockdowns persist for more than two months we'll all likely see civil disobedience and social unrest. This just isn't normal.

Humans have always been social beings. Skype or Facetime or what have you is all well and good but it's still not the same as real face to face contact. Having that ripped away for "the greater good" is the hardest part.

If we has more supplies, more beds, a better plan then we wouldn't have to social distance to flatten this curve. We'd live normally, let this ramp up exponentially, peak then regress and forge on. Pandemic would burn itself out in weeks rather than stretching out this quasi isolation (state supported with help from the media) for months.

Just my two cents. Stay safe, be well fellow Patnetters.

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1   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Mar 22, 7:39am  

There are strategic supplies, they are using them. They just don’t have 300 million of each.

We are fine as a nation. We will be fine.
2   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 22, 9:02am  

GreaterNYCDude says
If we has more supplies, more beds, a better plan then we wouldn't have to social distance to flatten this curve.


Prohibitively expensive. Nobody can have "enough beds" for an infection growing at the rates this Chink shit is growing when left unchecked. So there is no way around quarantines and social distancing measures.
3   clambo   2020 Mar 22, 9:12am  

NYC lost tens of thousands of hospital beds as 10 or more hospitals closed because they were bankrupt.

The treatment of anyone who walks in caused this.

Medical treatment of illegals who won’t pay and don’t buy insurance is another reason.
4   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Mar 22, 10:11am  

GreaterNYCDude says
why were we not ramping up production of key supplies like facemasks

It should occur to you that multiplying the production of things like facemasks by a factor 1000, or 10,000 requires not just local adjustments of the supply chain, like adding shifts, it requires structural long term decisions like building new factories, this at all levels of the bill of material.
This cannot be done in 3 weeks or 3 months.
5   Booger   2020 Mar 22, 10:13am  

GreaterNYCDude says
If we has more supplies, more beds


The beds can be cots on school gyms vor tents if necessary. No reason to otherwise maintain huge empty hospitals, just in case. In so far as supplies, we would have to start making stuff in USA again.
6   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 10:15am  

Heraclitusstudent says
strategic long term decisions like building new factories,


Yes, and they should all be built in America, by law. Fuck the "global supply chain" that puts Americans out of work so that CEOs can have bigger bonuses.
8   theoakman   2020 Mar 22, 11:56am  

I watched a few foreign videos on the outbreak. One from the prime minister of Singapore last month and a recent one from an immunologist in Australia.

Basically, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan have been waiting for this ever since SARS. Not just from a government standpoint but from a populace standpoint. The second the outbreak occurred, people in these areas were wearing masks which was symbolic of the fact that people there were practicing social distancing and isolation before a major problem was even allowed to occur.

Also, the prime minister of Singapore was calling it Wuhan Pneumonia. He must be racist against Chinese.

www.youtube.com/embed/2qfU37wLjmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhVhIVX_xk0
9   Patrick   2020 Mar 22, 12:24pm  

HEYYOU says
How many COMMUNIST CHINA/global exports do you own?


Lots, because US executives ELIMINATED ALL OTHER POSSIBILITIES by producing at much lower cost in China, which has no worker rights, no pollution controls, and spreads disease globally.

Republicans were always the party of business, and Democrats were supposed to represent workers. But Democrats were corrupted from the inside and told their sheep:

1. Workers rights? Fuck that shit. We can effectively have slavery back just by outsourcing to China and bringing in tens of millions of illegals to mop up the few shit jobs left. But don't talk about this.

2. Yes, this is going to destroy US manufacturing and put the whole middle of the country out of work, but you know what? That's OK, because we can just call them RACIST and feel better about killing them.

We used to have a balance of parties, but now that the Democrats have been sucking Wall Street cock for a few decades, we have only globalism.
10   marcus   2020 Mar 23, 8:33pm  

GreaterNYCDude says
Why were we so ill prepared?


Stupidity ?

Arrogance ?

Too much anti-science attitude, and belief in stupid conspiracy theories about the "deep state."

Those are the first things that come to mind for me.
11   marcus   2020 Mar 23, 8:35pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Apparently the dirty PC commie SJWS were already in control of the narrative too, becasue they were already calling it the Coronavirus.
12   marcus   2020 Mar 23, 8:43pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
This cannot be done in 3 weeks or 3 months.


In the future we will invest long term in preparedness as Korea must have done.

Perhaps when we turned down the offer of help from the W.H.O. they had more supplies to share for Korea and others ?

GreaterNYCDude says
This hit China about 3 weeks ahead of us.


Closer to three months
13   WookieMan   2020 Mar 23, 9:27pm  

marcus says
Perhaps when we turned down the offer of help from the W.H.O. they had more supplies to share for Korea and others ?

What the fuck?


https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-u-s-government-and-the-world-health-organization/
Why in the flying fuck should we have to go to the WHO for anything? They should be handing this stuff out to us for free.... oh sorry, giving us our money back.
14   WookieMan   2020 Mar 23, 9:55pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Because WHO member laboratories were weeks ahead of the CDC.

And we fund both. That's the point. Given our funding I find it hard to believe we'd just ignore any recommendations. There's other shit at play here.
15   komputodo   2020 Mar 23, 10:15pm  

GreaterNYCDude says
I realize certain things we cannot control... but it amazes me that we have so few hospital beds per person in this country, particularly in major metro areas.

How many hospital beds should a city of 8 million people have? Do you have a realistic answer or are you just emoting?
16   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 23, 10:22pm  

GreaterNYCDude says
it amazes me that we have so few hospital beds per person in this country, particularly in major metro areas.


As compared to what country?

17   porkchopXpress   2020 Mar 23, 10:24pm  

I love seeing the beta Left whiners get shut down with facts.
18   epitaph   2020 Mar 23, 10:25pm  

Chinese lies and incompetence from the WHO and the CDC. Trump obsessing over his 30k market didn't help either. The CDC is a fucking disaster really fucking pathetic and the WHO should be dissolved and replaced with Mr Bean, they both would probably do about the same thing which is nothing only Mr Bean might make somebody giggle. At least local governments are trying their best to buy time. I fucking hate Sam Licardo and Gavin Newsome but at least they responded to the threats as quickly as they could. It really means fuck all when global or national entities fuck up on such a massive scale. I hope they all get fired and have to retire no gold parachutes. I hope we never do business with China ever again and I hope those senators who
dumped stocks after their coronavirus briefing get fucking lynched on national tv for this shit.

Everyone who followed this story since January knew what a clusterfuck this was turning into. Now I get to worry about my parents dying from now until god knows when because some fat salaried incompetent fucks didn't do their job and when it's all said and done they say "sorry we tried our best" and nothing fucking happens. God I'm so fucking upset by this, 2008 doesn't even make me mad anymore.
19   marcus   2020 Mar 23, 10:56pm  

:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-went-wrong-with-coronavirus-testing-in-the-us


The public-health-laboratory network was never intended to provide widespread testing in the event of a pandemic. To offer tests to anyone who wanted them, as President Trump did, on March 6th, was always going to require commercial testing facilities to come on line. Still, the three-week delay caused by the C.D.C.’s failure to get working test kits into the hands of the public-health labs came at a crucial time. In the early stages of an outbreak, contact tracing, isolation, and individual quarantines are regularly deployed to contain the spread of a disease. But these tools are useless if suspected cases of a disease cannot be tested. The void created by the C.D.C.’s faulty tests made it impossible for public-health authorities to get an accurate picture of how far and how fast the disease was spreading. In hotspots like Seattle, and probably elsewhere, covid-19 spread undetected for several weeks, which in turn only multiplied the need for more tests. “Once you’re behind the eight ball, it’s very hard to catch up,” Alberto Gutierrez, the former head of the F.D.A. Office of In Vitro Diagnostics and Radiological Health, which regulates tests, told me. “The problem was that containment was not done very well. At this point, we’re looking at exponential growth, and we need to figure out how to meet an exponential demand.”

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20   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Mar 24, 6:20am  

marcus says
:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-went-wrong-with-coronavirus-testing-in-the-us


The public-health-laboratory network was never intended to provide widespread testing in the event of a pandemic. To offer tests to anyone who wanted them, as President Trump did, on March 6th, was always going to require commercial testing facilities to come on line. Still, the three-week delay caused by the C.D.C.’s failure to get working test kits into the hands of the public-health labs came at a crucial time. In the early stages of an outbreak, contact tracing, isolation, and individual quarantines are regularly deployed to contain the spread of a disease. But these tools are useless if suspected cases of a disease cannot be tested. The void created by the C.D.C.’s faulty tests made it impossible for public-health authorities to get an accurate picture of ho...


Except we weren’t behind the eight ball on testing. Hardly anyone tested positive in the US until last week.

The NY slimes also ran a graph supposedly showing how Italy and Korea were testing at large numbers way before us. Yeah, because both had a full blown outbreak in February. We didn’t. We had hardly any people even carrying it in February. Like I told you the NY Slimes is a horribly unreliable publication.

Notice how your article faults President Trump for a supposed three week delay, but then follows up with a line about how critical the early stages of an outbreak are without EVER stating what the beginning of the outbreak in the US was? It’s like a Jedi mind trick on week minded leftists.
21   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 24, 6:55am  

Why were we so ill prepared?

Do you realize that we literally can't prepare for every possible contingency?
23   Ceffer   2020 Mar 24, 9:32am  

Ill prepared for assault and battery by an enslaved press machine.
24   socal2   2020 Mar 24, 9:55am  

marcus says
The void created by the C.D.C.’s faulty tests made it impossible for public-health authorities to get an accurate picture of how far and how fast the disease was spreading.


This just tells us we need MOAR centralized healthcare from our Government in Washington DC.

We need layers and layers and layers of bureaucracy and red tape to keep the rubes and private labs in the States from doing their jobs.
25   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 24, 10:17am  

I gotta say Gov Cuomo was pretty good, he wasn't spreading panic bullshit (because he's directly responsible for the outcome helps) and kept DeBlasio in Check.
26   Ceffer   2020 Mar 24, 10:19am  

DeBlasio has the best traits of a Realtor and used car salesmen with LibbyFuck dressing.

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