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Khashoggi fiancee: 'Saudi Arabia can get away with whatever it wants'
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2020 Feb 4, 9:43pm 406 views 2 comments
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goofus
2020 Feb 5, 10:57am
I see Saudi Arabia through a slightly different lens, that of pre- and post- Mohammed bin Salman. Before MBS, Saudi Arabia funded ISIS (or rather, did not stop individual royals from contributing), promoted widespread mosque-building in Europe (agitated for 200 mosques in Germany alone), and shipped Wahhabist clerics and radical ideology globally.
Post-MBS, Alwaleed bin Talal and 200 other royals (including the bin Laden family) were jailed until their finances could be examined. The dramatic downturn in ISIS' fortunes (both in Syria and Europe) I attribute to two linked phenomena: Trump and Mattis fighting ISIS soldiers rather than Bashir al-Assad, and Mohammed bin Salman undercutting 'charitable' funding of terrorist groups.
The timeline is instructive, I think.
-Trump met with MBS and then-King Salman in March 2017.
-By May, the reformist MBS was installed as king, rather than his conservative half-brother. Perhaps Trump signaled a will to combat terrorism at the root, namely its funding sources.
-MBS could then, by November 2017, jail the 200 royals suspected of terror links.
It's relevant that Alwaleed bin Talal was among those arrested, he being a major funder of Hillary Clinton's campaign and foundation. No one would touch his 'charitable' funding were Clinton president. Under Trump, MBS had free reign to clean up money transfers to terror groups.
The media of course screams holy hell about, not only Alwaleed bin Talal's arrest, but Saudi Arabia being Saudi Arabia (Khashoggi's murder). Yes, they still behead for trivial offenses, they still take out hostile journalists. Neither is unique to MBS, and there was no rightward shift as a result of his coronation.
In fact under MBS (per wiki), "He has led several successful reforms, which include regulations restricting the powers of the religious police,[12] the removal of the ban on female drivers in June 2018,[13] and weakening the male-guardianship system in August 2019.[14] Other cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women,[15] an increased presence of women in the workforce,[16] and opening the country to international tourists by introducing an e-visa system which can now easily be issued for foreigners from the Internet to attend events and festivals.[17] His Vision 2030 program aims to diversify the Saudi economy through investment in non-oil sectors including technology and tourism."
Most importantly, under MBS terror funding has dropped dramatically. One no longer hears about monthly atrocities in Europe, or semi-annually in the US, as we did during Obama's second term.
Post-MBS, Alwaleed bin Talal and 200 other royals (including the bin Laden family) were jailed until their finances could be examined. The dramatic downturn in ISIS' fortunes (both in Syria and Europe) I attribute to two linked phenomena: Trump and Mattis fighting ISIS soldiers rather than Bashir al-Assad, and Mohammed bin Salman undercutting 'charitable' funding of terrorist groups.
The timeline is instructive, I think.
-Trump met with MBS and then-King Salman in March 2017.
-By May, the reformist MBS was installed as king, rather than his conservative half-brother. Perhaps Trump signaled a will to combat terrorism at the root, namely its funding sources.
-MBS could then, by November 2017, jail the 200 royals suspected of terror links.
It's relevant that Alwaleed bin Talal was among those arrested, he being a major funder of Hillary Clinton's campaign and foundation. No one would touch his 'charitable' funding were Clinton president. Under Trump, MBS had free reign to clean up money transfers to terror groups.
The media of course screams holy hell about, not only Alwaleed bin Talal's arrest, but Saudi Arabia being Saudi Arabia (Khashoggi's murder). Yes, they still behead for trivial offenses, they still take out hostile journalists. Neither is unique to MBS, and there was no rightward shift as a result of his coronation.
In fact under MBS (per wiki), "He has led several successful reforms, which include regulations restricting the powers of the religious police,[12] the removal of the ban on female drivers in June 2018,[13] and weakening the male-guardianship system in August 2019.[14] Other cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women,[15] an increased presence of women in the workforce,[16] and opening the country to international tourists by introducing an e-visa system which can now easily be issued for foreigners from the Internet to attend events and festivals.[17] His Vision 2030 program aims to diversify the Saudi economy through investment in non-oil sectors including technology and tourism."
Most importantly, under MBS terror funding has dropped dramatically. One no longer hears about monthly atrocities in Europe, or semi-annually in the US, as we did during Obama's second term.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Feb 5, 11:17am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Feb 5, 11:17am
I really don't care about Khashoggi. And he was killed in Turkey as far as I'm concerned Turkey had him killed, if I gave fuck which I don't.
This is true.
The Saudis can kill any one of us at any time, and no one will do anything about it.
Heck, they killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 and still haven't had to answer for that.