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Let me try to stop a Straw Man argument in its tracks ...

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finehoe says

There are 200,000 troops deployed overseas today

Throughout the Cold War, there have been US troops scattered around the globe. So today should reflect a bit of that past ...

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/

Let me add up ALL the mid east countries of Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iraq, Bahrain (no war there), Qatar, Turkey, Jordan, UAE, and what's our total .... 34K-35K?

Wait! Where's everyone else?

Let's see ... between Japan, South Korea, Italy, and Germany, that's already 109-110K? Hold on ... aren't those areas outside of active or grey war zones? Wait, so is half our overseas armed forces out of harm's way, living in post Cold War boundaries, awaiting post-Soviet and/or communist attacks?

I think this is finehoe attempting to build a straw man argument. If we compare this involvement to the LBJ era in Vietnam ...

http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwatl.htm

We're WELL below where Johnson, McNamara, & Westmoreland increased troop involvement from a low of 23K to 536K+.

It's more like this ...



Seeing stupid ppl isn't scary.

I guess 7.8 million viewers watched, up from 6.6 in December. Still not overwhelming interest, but since this was the last one before voting in Iowa, maybe more people paid attention.
I sure didn’t.

I’m increasingly convinced that this is going to a brokered convention where Biden or Bloomberg will be nominated. Old boys club will dominate in this, since the progressives can’t get behind a single candidate.

"Joe Biden is a rabid dog and he should be beaten to death with a stick.".
Joe Biden (said in context)

I was hoping to see all the candidates raise their hands again to reaffirm they would give free medical care to all illegal aliens. Trump's campaign commercials practically write themselves!

Mark my word, the Democrats are going to start showing up at each other's rallies and beating the shit out of each other.

Tenpoundbass says

Mark my word, the Democrats are going to start showing up at each other's rallies and beating the shit out of each other.

That would be awesome. Maybe Tulsi could win the nomination that way even over Biden despite Biden's practice/experience with CornPop™.

lol watching Warren trying to figure out mentally that 1990 was 30 years ago shows how slow her brain is.

Tenpoundbass says

Mark my word, the Democrats are going to start showing up at each other's rallies and beating the shit out of each other.

Twitter this morning was a huge Bernie-Warren battle. Advantage Bernie Bros I have to say, in numbers and enthusiasm.

Was the video of the highlights suppose to be a joke? Are the candidates in the video the final choices for the Democratics I haven't been keeping up on people dropping out?

Rin says

In contrast, Trump has sent not even one full American division, 20K troops, into any conflict. What are these loser Democrats taking about as for the current administration, increasing troop count?

C'mon man...my nerves are shot along with marcus's for all the times Trump has taken us TO THE BRINK of nuclear war.

Shaman says

I’m increasingly convinced that this is going to a brokered convention where Biden or Bloomberg will be nominated. Old boys club will dominate in this, since the progressives can’t get behind a single candidate.

Hillary or Mike Obama

Shaman says

I guess 7.8 million viewers watched

lol........sure they did...

komputodo says

Rin says

In contrast, Trump has sent not even one full American division, 20K troops, into any conflict. What are these loser Democrats taking about as for the current administration, increasing troop count?

C'mon man...my nerves are shot along with marcus's for all the times Trump has taken us TO THE BRINK of nuclear war.

Let me re-post my thread on this ...

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https://patrick.net/post/1329577

Yes, I have a Part I which was finished during Iran's drone strike over the gulf region where Trump did not go the way of Bolton. Notice, it was almost half a year ago ...

https://patrick.net/post/1325271/2019-06-21-sorry-fellas-but-trump-s-calling-off-the-iran-strike-may-be-his-greatest-moment

Before I get to Part II, let me start with this ... I was not interested in politics AT ALL, prior to the bitches protesting the elections in Boston and NYC, during Jan of 2017, which in their collective minds, was perhaps worse (?) than the cozen fraud which was the 2000 Florida re-count, costing Al Gore Junior, yes an academic & environmental loser, but not a war wonger like GW Bush and his [ sarcasm on ] dream team [ sarcasm off ] of Cheney & Rumsfeld.

Since then, all I've heard was something I'd known since 1985 and that was that Trump was a sleazebag. Surprise, I'm 40 today and I can recognize ppl calling each other names on a schoolyard. This is no different than tactics used by kids in grade school. We all know Trump's personality; the question is 'is he putting our boys in harm's way?'

https://patrick.net/post/1329394/2019-12-29-rin-s-response-to-bogus-christian-outrage-on-trump-s-character-or-lack-of

The answer to that is no. In fact, Trump is the first president in our post-LBJ world who's doing whatever's possible, to minimize the pre-existing land wars in place, while at the same time, keeping the Pentagon and contractors, fat and happy with money, so that his family isn't assassinated.

So now, we're at the General Soleimani moment, where once again, ppl are acting as if it were some sanctioned assassination in a non-war zone home country ...

https://patrick.net/post/1329495/2020-01-04-was-qassem-soleimani-gunned-down-at-his-home-in-iran-as-if-it-were-some-mafia-hit

No, the good general was in a grey war zone attempting to start another guerilla action. He put himself in harm's way and like anyone else in a similar situation, he payed the price.

The result, a feeble missile volley to which Trump responded with more sanctions.

So my question to the remaining Democrats is... "Where's the Gulf of Tonkin incident here?"

Why is it that for each military crisis, Trump doesn't respond with sending in 200K-500K troops like LBJ before him? Perhaps it's time to admit that in fact, our election process does work and when the country, meaning the entire land mass, not just the urban centers of Boston, NYC, DC, Chicago, LA, & SF actually places its votes, that those votes should count.