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1   Ceffer   2019 Dec 12, 11:36am  

"A pitchfork by another name!"
2   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Dec 12, 8:30pm  

Why? British healthcare sucks.

I had a life threatening disease about a decade ago and went to online forums to cope. Of the Canadians/US/Germans/Aussies, the Brits has the most complaints about medics care by far.
3   mell   2019 Dec 12, 9:44pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
Why? British healthcare sucks.

I had a life threatening disease about a decade ago and went to online forums to cope. Of the Canadians/US/Germans/Aussies, the Brits has the most complaints about medics care by far.


It's difficult, the UK system is among the worst in Western Europe, but generally those systems work towards providing the best care on average for reasonable cost. Which means that if you have a rare disease it's not worth treating you, even if it is serious. That's why most if not all advanced treamtents and centers for complex/functional diseases like Lyme, CFS/ME/FM/MS etc. are all in the US. Similar if you're declared brain dead you're done in Europe, in the US you can prolong care and hope for a rare but possible recovery as long as you can afford it.or your insurance covers it. I'd say the US system is still best, but it has serious inflation issues which cannot go on like this forever.
4   CBOEtrader   2019 Dec 12, 9:57pm  

Ours is designed to fleece the taxpayer for crony insurance executives.

Doctors, nurses, agents, hospital owners... everyone is benefitting from the fleecing of the taxpayer. The stories my clients tell me are extreme. Ex: $5k bill reduced to $300 because the client told the hospital she had no insurance and would pay the cash price?

Hurrah for crony capitalism, I guess. I'll post my OEP numbers on the 16th. Thus far have enrolled $3 million of annual premium, with probably 90% paid by the taxpayer.

Chronic illness patients are highly coveted clients, especially if they are on medicaid. Some ghetto kid comes down w cancer, allowing specialists to refer him around w full certainty of top dollar paid on every service rendered.

We must get govt out of healthcare
5   mell   2019 Dec 12, 9:58pm  

CBOEtrader says
Ours is designed to fleece the taxpayer for crony insurance executives.

Doctors, nurses, agents, hospital owners... everyone is benefitting from the fleecing of the taxpayer. The stories my clients tell me are extreme. Ex: $5k bill reduced to $300 because the client told the hospital she had no insurance and would pay the cash price?

Hurrah for crony capitalism, I guess. I'll post my OEP numbers on the 16th. Thus far have enrolled $3 million of annual premium, with probably 90% paid by the taxpayer.

Chronic illness patients are highly coveted clients, especially if they are on medicaid. Some ghetto kid comes down w cancer, allowing specialists to refer him around w full certainty of top dollar paid on every service rendered.

We must get govt out of healthcare


Right the middle men are one of the biggest drivers for US Healthcare inflation.
6   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Dec 13, 5:19am  

Leeds, UK:

Children sleeping on coats in dirty hospital hallways; others on plastic chairs pushed together; infants waiting 6 hours to be seen and another 5 hours for a bed.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/11/baby-left-waiting-11-hours-bed-hospital-boy-slept-floor-11678695/
7   theoakman   2019 Dec 13, 7:08am  

CBOEtrader says
Ours is designed to fleece the taxpayer for crony insurance executives.

Doctors, nurses, agents, hospital owners... everyone is benefitting from the fleecing of the taxpayer. The stories my clients tell me are extreme. Ex: $5k bill reduced to $300 because the client told the hospital she had no insurance and would pay the cash price?

Hurrah for crony capitalism, I guess. I'll post my OEP numbers on the 16th. Thus far have enrolled $3 million of annual premium, with probably 90% paid by the taxpayer.

Chronic illness patients are highly coveted clients, especially if they are on medicaid. Some ghetto kid comes down w cancer, allowing specialists to refer him around w full certainty of top dollar paid on every service rendered.

We must get govt out of healthcare


Aside from catastrophic events, you can bargain with most doctors for cash and it's cheaper than having the plumber replace your hot water heater. I only know this because I did medical billing for my father's practice. If they didn't pay, you sent them to collection. They settle with the agency for 10%...agency takes half. So 5% cash just made sense. I had to go to the ER once and they sent me a 20k bill for an IV. I offered them $250 in $10 increments monthly or just $200 up front. Deal was easier than bargaining with a furniture salesman.
8   CBOEtrader   2019 Dec 13, 7:57am  

theoakman says
CBOEtrader says
Ours is designed to fleece the taxpayer for crony insurance executives.

Doctors, nurses, agents, hospital owners... everyone is benefitting from the fleecing of the taxpayer. The stories my clients tell me are extreme. Ex: $5k bill reduced to $300 because the client told the hospital she had no insurance and would pay the cash price?

Hurrah for crony capitalism, I guess. I'll post my OEP numbers on the 16th. Thus far have enrolled $3 million of annual premium, with probably 90% paid by the taxpayer.

Chronic illness patients are highly coveted clients, especially if they are on medicaid. Some ghetto kid comes down w cancer, allowing specialists to refer him around w full certainty of top dollar paid on every service rendered.

We must get govt out of healthcare


Aside from catastrophic events, you can bargain with most doctors for cash and it's cheaper tha...


This is amazing info, thanks for sharing. And WOW, 5% is a legit counter offer? Noted
9   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Dec 16, 7:58am  

Lisa Sadler, 47, used to get 23 hours of care from Nottinghamshire County Council. However, it was reduced to just six hours a week and she she says this has had a devastating effect. Mrs Sadler, who used to be a childminder, had to give up work after she was diagnosed with the degenerative brain disease in 2009. Since then, her condition has worsened to the point she struggles to carry out tasks like dressing herself, cooking or going to the toilet. She said: ‘Parkinson’s is horrible – I would not wish it on anyone and the effect it has on my kids as well.

‘I can’t stand up for a long time and adult social care don’t seem to understand the condition.’ She was offered 23 hours of care a week from the adult social care team at the county council in September 2018. This included a carer who would help with washing, shopping and cooking and supporting her youngest son, Josh aged six. But those hours have now been cut to six. The county council says it has helped Mrs Sadler adapt her home and provided funding for a childminder to pick and collect Josh up from school. But they say they are trying to encourage their patients to be as independent as they can.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/15/mum-parkinsons-disease-forced-crawl-floor-care-cut-11910876/?ito=cbshare

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