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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Nov 22, 2:57pm  

When is the exhibition of UN-paid Palestinian relatives of suicide bombers of Pizzerias?

Also, when is Russian Soldiers terrorizing Chechens exhibit?
2   Ceffer   2019 Nov 22, 4:40pm  

And this is different from any army anywhere in the world how? Fucking people over for power is why they exist.
3   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Nov 22, 6:45pm  

I'm still waiting for the Paki Peacekeepers Rape Victim's Memorial

You know it's funny, after 500 rockets land in civilian areas, maiming a shit load of old people and kids, the UN always demands Israel be "Proportional" in response when they launch a precision strike on a rocket launch area in Gaza.

Next time, Israel should launch 500 artillery shells at random points in Gaza - that would be truly proportional.
4   HeadSet   2019 Nov 23, 10:08am  

My wife just asked: Why didn't Fred Trump pull out?

Fred Trump was doing your wife?
5   B.A.C.A.H.   2019 Nov 23, 1:43pm  

I saw this first hand in 1997. I stayed in Ramallah a couple of nights and took the sheruts (shared vans) across the border into Jerusalem for tourist stuff. Only interested in Ramallah to see for myself beyond the images we get in mainstream media.

At the end of the workday, scores of sheruts lined up on a curb just outside one of the gates into the old walled city. I think it was the Damascus Gate. They had signs in the windows saying where they were destined for. Most of the signs were in Arabic only. The drivers stood outside their vehicles yelling out the destination. I think most of them were headed for Ramallah, but I remember hearing other places too like Nablus.

The sherut filled up quickly. The passengers were mostly the Palestinian version of wetbacks, exploited for cheap labor in Jerusalem. DIfference between here and there, is that they commute home at the end of each workday. There were also kids in uniform to attend private Christian schools in Jerusalem. In a nod to growing fundamentalism, the girls wore blue jeans under their uniform dresses, and some (not all) of them also wore the hijab. Even though wearing hijbab, they were commuting to Christian schools. Also I recall some obese old granny types probably commuting in for shopping or else perhaps they owned a stall in the Old City market.

It was dusk already when the van pulled out. It made at least one stop along the way to someone off in Israel proper before the border. I suppose if your stop was on the route to Ramallah it'd be cheaper or more convenient than some other mode of travel.

By the time we got to the border crossing it was dark already. Both nights, the van didn't even stop at the border, just drove straight through. I didn't even know we'd passed the border. Somewhere past the border was an intersection that was busy with foot traffic and crawling with uniformed Israelis. Border Police or soldiers, I don't recall. Later someone told me that intersection was a crossroads to an Israeli settlement, so it was always a concern as potential troublespot.

Crossing into Jerusalem in the early morning from Al Bireh (Ramallah suburb) was an entirely different experience. Same sorts of folks in the van: day laborers, rotund old grannies, schoolagers in uniform. A very long queue of vans lined up to cross the border. When it was our turn, the young soldier in combat wear that included his machine gun, slide open the van door. I could see the fear/terror in eyes of some of the passengers. Nobody said a word. The soldier scanned all of us with his eyes, spoke a few words without ever taking the cigarette (*) from his mouth in either Hebrew or Arabic in a hushed and contemptuous tone. He asked for documentation from someone. Pointed at me at said, "passport". He looked at the paperwork from the Palestinian man and gave it back. He took my passport and walked away with it for a minute or two. When he returned with it the van was free to go. Someone in the van told me that they checked my ID because of foreigners (such as myself) who go to Ramallah are assumed to be "troublemakers". That young soldier, in a group with other soldiers who were armed with machine guns, and border police, had total power in that interaction, and some of the folks in the van were terrified of him. Of course, it works both ways. Any of those old grannies wearing layers of clothes could've been concealing something. The schoolagers (some were teenagers) had backpacks that could've had suicide bombs. Even the day laborers could've had a concealed knife.

That was in 1997. I've read since that time they've sealed up the border tighter than before. I don't know if such day-tripping commuting across the border in such huge numbers is still occurring nowadays.

(*) I dunno what it's like in the Jerusalem area now, but damn in 1997 so many locals smoked. At least once I remember in the West Bank I saw Israeli soldier sharing smokes with Palestinian.

BTW where I saw guys in uniform beating the sh*t out of a Palestinian youth, it was the border police (blue uniform), not the soldiers in combat wear. (Soldiers standing around though). This was on the road between Bethlehem and Jersualem. The guide, an Israeli Arab, told us that the youth probably initiated or provoked the action. He asked us not to take photos as the bus drove by, but of course some people on the bus were taking photos. Someone explained to me later that the border police are the ones who do most of the beating up, not the soldiers.
6   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Nov 23, 2:17pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
That was in 1997. I've read since that time they've sealed up the border tighter than before. I don't know if such day-tripping commuting across the border in such huge numbers is still occurring nowadays.


No. Russian Immigration and the big Beautiful Wall.

Terrorism into Israel has collapsed to next to nothing, because guarded Walls work, which is why the Fakestinians hate it.
7   Patrick   2019 Nov 23, 10:02pm  

The wall would work here too, except that US employers demand that the border remain open to keep the cheap illegal labor flowing at the expense of US workers.
8   Shaman   2019 Nov 24, 6:48am  

Build the wall!

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